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Posted: 8 years ago
@Laska Maya is a woman who has breathed in darkness. She can breathe in darkness, how is the question and she herself will have to do it. No Duffer wont help. This battle Maya herself has to fight.
@siri I just told options with that dialogue of Duffer. I dont think Duffer himself realizes what Dusky means to him. As he says she is his madness. You cant define something for madness as madness can do anything. But that madness has to be understood and a name has to be given to that. Till then it is trouble and trouble alone.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@shruthiravi, and I really want Maya to fight in this battle herself. She must see everything herself. She must find the answer herself. She must shift the focus herself. It will kill her. This will completely destroy her. But only so she will see those real limits, which she crossed away. The limits that Duffer forced her crossed. The hell in which Duffer sink her. Everything will collapses. All will shattered to smithereens
And even more, I want Maya to fight herself, because this is one of the three freebie paths for Duffer. He doesn't deserve a single one. Not a single chance. No loopholes. No freebie

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Posted: 8 years ago
@Laska yes she needs duffer to defeat Ashwin is the thought Maya has to kill. She needs to know she can do it herself. Doesnt matter it will break her existence itself, but that is needed.
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Posted: 8 years ago
26/7/2017

The way in front will take you to Arjun and way behind will bring you to me. Choose Maya. In front of you is fire and behind you is deep valley. In season 2 I had told time has taken the test. Test of time, test of time is always through fire and that day also Maya had made the right choice. And today too she made the right choice. She walked in front, she choose the fire, she choose to satisfy Arjun's wish of showing the world her truth. The bad and mad Maya made the choice of walking through the fire to reach Arjun. yes a woman who was in dirt, who made every effort to rise from the dirt, every effort to move away from her shadow, her past, today chose fire over valley. Fire the only element that takes all impurities, yet remain pure.Fire that can show the difference between original gold and fake gold, Maya walked towards it with confidence. Not everyone can go near it, the way Maya went, when that was the only path towards her Arjun. Only a woman who is so sure of herself can enter fire or chose the path of fire. Today Maya was at a different level altogether. The fighter in her shone through. Even in defeat her goal didnt change, her mind didnt wander, her focus remained steady and her choice remained one. It says your character comes out when faced with moral dilemma. yes Maya could have gone to Samay today to hide herself, instead she chose to walk towards Arjun. It is also another indication Maya wanted to change, she didnt wanted her past ways, she did try every time. Her fight in mud, her running to lorry and her firm walk towards fire shows she wanted to change, but didnt know how to as at every point she encountered her shadow, her past. She killed it one time, but it came in different form, different shape. But the path of fire has to give her a way to end her past. It has to. 8, mud,Rajiv, the lines of Ventakesha Suprabhatam, and fire they add up only to one image which I will talk later. But the best part of today's episode was Maya and Jenny once again the nailed that confident walk under immense pressure.

This is the difference of Maya and Saanjh also. When Saanjh faced Samay, Arjun today is the test of your friendship, you have to prove your friendship. Maya faced with Samay, makes the choice of walking through fire, instead of sitting with him in the mandap to marry him and of course if Arjun doesnt come have SR also with him. Maya chooses her path and she fights to move in that path, while Saanjh sit and expect Arjun to fight her battle.

Dusky how does the world of mad people looking. It is interesting right. To be among mad people. How does sane people feel when they are put with mad people. How many times you have mouthed Maya is mad, Maya pagal hai, tumhari biwi pagal hai. How does that world feel Dusky, where people who has been affected with mental trauma behave. The woman who wants to run away from police, woman who wants to treat her daugther, do you even understand Dusky what all they would have under went for them to be like this. You wont understand them, because you only have motive. You dont even empathize with them, you are either afraid or treat them nuisance to be fooled. You use them as a distraction to run your mission for which you have come. Do you know Dusky when those mad people pulled that coir you tied to the door and told them pull it, it is their escape route they trusted you. You simply cheated them. See it is fine to cheat normal people for your motives. But to cheat mentally insane people is not right dusky. You can create illusion for them, if that can cure them, but not use their trust for your motive. Because they are not normal dusky. They are patients. They are not bad and mad Maya. Those mad people are simply patients who need empathy, the word which seems to be not in your dictionary or it is shown in select circumstances.

Guys to what dusky did today with those mental patients there was no Maya. It was purely Dusky's choice to play with them and then leave them so that she can continue with her mission. If anyone says it is fine to use mental patients as truth has to be proven or rather I say the truth as Dusky sees it has to be proven, Maya also used to prove the truth as she sees it.

In war and love path doesnt matter. It is the victory that matters goes the adage. If you ask me I will say whatever is your goal, path matters and victory is the by product of the path.Concentrate on action than the result. For Dusky today result mattered. For Maya today the path mattered.

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Posted: 8 years ago
Oh shruti I am in love with your writing.

will comment more after watching the episode
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My take on Maya's choice was neither! She surely did not give up & surrender to Rajiv!! But she did not choose to surrender before police, too!

Her choice is to hide & keep running! But how long? Till Arjun finds her?
Earlier too, Arjun came for her help! But he ditched her & went with Saanjh!
Now, Saanjh is even more confident in holding Arjun's hands!
Maya has none to help her, not even Samay!
Samay did not even allow her to die peacefully in her coffin!
May be, Maya's punishment is still not over & she is hanging with a life now, only to collect her dues for her sins!
What she wanted to do with Ajrun, now Rajiv's gun will do for her! But she may escape again only to run!

What a tragedy!

The once boss lady who ruled her empire with pride and majesty, is now getting chased down like a hapless creature! She is running for cover all over the places - only to seek her life or death -she does not even know that!


Edited by Fernandes43 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Yes Maya chose none
She didn't want to go to Samay and neither did she want the world to know that she is alive and for Arjun to be proven innocent

Hence she ran and hide but Samay caught up to her

Samay once told Maya that they are 2 sides of the same coin and he was in a way right

Tomorrow Samay will tell Maya that if she can't live with him then certainly they both can die together.

This is precisely what Maya wants as well...if Arjun didn't want to live with her then she decided to end his life coz Maya cannot let him live without her...she also decided to kill Arjun and thus trapped him in the murder case and then wanted to kill herself

Maya hates Samay but in a way ended up doing the same thing that Samay wants to do with Maya now..kill her and then kill himself

Both of them fail to understand the true meaning of love...both of them want to control love and destroy it in the process.

Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Guys Maya's punishment is the fire she has walked into. She cannot die just like that. For the crimes she did, she has to pay. This was Samay's choice. In front of you is the path to Arjun. Behind you is the path to me. Arjun wants you to come out, so that he can show the world Maya's truth. Behind you I am standing with my arms open. So what do you want to do. Whose wish you want to grant
It only told path in front is path towards Arjun and path behind path towards Samay. And whose wish she wants to grant. She walked in front, it is not Maya showing her truth, it is Arjun showing Maya's truth to the world. That's the path in front indicated. If it was Maya showing her truth, then surrender to police is needed. But Arjun showing the truth of Maya, it is not surrender to police. Arjun has to find her and show the truth.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

26/7/2017

The way in front will take you to Arjun and way behind will bring you to me. Choose Maya. In front of you is fire and behind you is deep valley. In season 2 I had told time has taken the test. Test of time, test of time is always through fire and that day also Maya had made the right choice. And today too she made the right choice. She walked in front, she choose the fire, she choose to satisfy Arjun's wish of showing the world her truth. The bad and mad Maya made the choice of walking through the fire to reach Arjun. yes a woman who was in dirt, who made every effort to rise from the dirt, every effort to move away from her shadow, her past, today chose fire over valley. Fire the only element that takes all impurities, yet remain pure.Fire that can show the difference between original gold and fake gold, Maya walked towards it with confidence. Not everyone can go near it, the way Maya went, when that was the only path towards her Arjun. Only a woman who is so sure of herself can enter fire or chose the path of fire. Today Maya was at a different level altogether. The fighter in her shone through. Even in defeat her goal didnt change, her mind didnt wander, her focus remained steady and her choice remained one. It says your character comes out when faced with moral dilemma. yes Maya could have gone to Samay today to hide herself, instead she chose to walk towards Arjun. It is also another indication Maya wanted to change, she didnt wanted her past ways, she did try every time. Her fight in mud, her running to lorry and her firm walk towards fire shows she wanted to change, but didnt know how to as at every point she encountered her shadow, her past. She killed it one time, but it came in different form, different shape. But the path of fire has to give her a way to end her past. It has to. 8, mud,Rajiv, the lines of Ventakesha Suprabhatam, and fire they add up only to one image which I will talk later. But the best part of today's episode was Maya and Jenny once again the nailed that confident walk under immense pressure.

This is the difference of Maya and Saanjh also. When Saanjh faced Samay, Arjun today is the test of your friendship, you have to prove your friendship. Maya faced with Samay, makes the choice of walking through fire, instead of sitting with him in the mandap to marry him and of course if Arjun doesnt come have SR also with him. Maya chooses her path and she fights to move in that path, while Saanjh sit and expect Arjun to fight her battle.

Dusky how does the world of mad people looking. It is interesting right. To be among mad people. How does sane people feel when they are put with mad people. How many times you have mouthed Maya is mad, Maya pagal hai, tumhari biwi pagal hai. How does that world feel Dusky, where people who has been affected with mental trauma behave. The woman who wants to run away from police, woman who wants to treat her daugther, do you even understand Dusky what all they would have under went for them to be like this. You wont understand them, because you only have motive. You dont even empathize with them, you are either afraid or treat them nuisance to be fooled. You use them as a distraction to run your mission for which you have come. Do you know Dusky when those mad people pulled that coir you tied to the door and told them pull it, it is their escape route they trusted you. You simply cheated them. See it is fine to cheat normal people for your motives. But to cheat mentally insane people is not right dusky. You can create illusion for them, if that can cure them, but not use their trust for your motive. Because they are not normal dusky. They are patients. They are not bad and mad Maya. Those mad people are simply patients who need empathy, the word which seems to be not in your dictionary or it is shown in select circumstances.

Guys to what dusky did today with those mental patients there was no Maya. It was purely Dusky's choice to play with them and then leave them so that she can continue with her mission. If anyone says it is fine to use mental patients as truth has to be proven or rather I say the truth as Dusky sees it has to be proven, Maya also used to prove the truth as she sees it.

In war and love path doesnt matter. It is the victory that matters goes the adage. If you ask me I will say whatever is your goal, path matters and victory is the by product of the path.Concentrate on action than the result. For Dusky today result mattered. For Maya today the path mattered.


@shurthi i feel really sad for maya..and nice analysis shurthi.@bold rightly said shruthi👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
@factfictionmyth there were many other things that were connected today in that choice of Maya. In season 1 Maya tells, my feelings are my problem, when Arjun takes her to shanti spot and she walks with him on that thin terrace in high heels.
Dusky could never stand with Arjun even for a minute on the top and she pulled Arjun also down to the place where she is comfortable.
Maya never understood what it meant when she said my feelings are my problem. Her path today is going to show her that. That's why it is the path of fire. Because in that path, Arjun will know her truth and tell the world. It doesnt tell whether Maya will get Arjun. It only tells Arjun will know the truth and will tell the world.
It goes again with the season 2 part where the drunk Arjun goes in a dizzy state and in half way path meets Maya.

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