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Posted: 8 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism


Do you really think that the same person can't be both the hero n villian??

If you write the story of Ravan, he would be both hero n villian

Similarly Maya is both the hero n villian of the show,

Only a hero can destroy the villian n only the villian can make hero miserable n here it's only Maya who can emerge out of her insecurities, her obsession n it is she who is making her look bad in front of Arjun or his family


Maya is not villain here. Bcz like ravan she didn't kill anyone.
She is the hero of this show and its a fact can't be denied .
Anyway maya is not the one who is bad, here people are making her look bad bcz irresponsible fellow like arjun didn't try and understand her or love her enough to solve her problem.
Arjun's family is it even a good family ? Where vandana arjun's mom is a bitch who manhandled her daughter in law, throws garbage on her & hated her, called names 24/7 this woman as more worse from maya.
Maya isn't bad but the eyes which are looking at her are looking at what they want to look not the real picture of maya.

A mother in real has to see from neutral view but vandana is so callous woman. She isn't capable of that even.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#42
Maya is the lead of the show and that is why she features in the promo. Because the show is because of her obsession and their consequences. Baaki everyone are supporting characters- Arjun And saanjh and Ashwin(pehle)being the primary ones.
That does not make her morally right.
It is totally okay for a dark character to be the LEAD of the show. No matter protagonist or not.
It is rare in India but there are quite a lot of shows and movies of that genre abroad. Where the lead of the show is dark/vampish.
It is here in Indian TV where literally everything is in Binary.
Protagonist(Devi maata) or Vamp(komalika types with dum tana tana) .
Also, maya isnt just a depression patient. Because that doesnt make people manipulative- coming from someone who has seen a close friend with issues. Yes. That doesnt make people manipulative. Severe depression causes self harm etc. But the manipulative part is because of severe OCD and chosing the dark part. Yes. Everyone with Mental illness doesnt take the dark.path. She took. Yes there were circumstances that were questioning. Like her troubled childhood. But the bottomline is- she did cross lines. And all her actions cant be morally justified. Redemption is not impossible. But for that she needs medical help rn. Before the madness makes her do things that cant be undone.
She needs help. Yes. But as I always say- her redemption- if possible or not- will depend on the extent to which she'll go.
-Coming from a neutral viewer. See I dont want to be called hater or fan and stuffs. I just see the show for the story. And yes. I like Maya. I like Arjun, Saanjh, Ayaan, Ashwin and everyone. What I didnt like was the police wala track where the CVs did a major deviation from the original track.

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Posted: 8 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Nithunavi


Maya is not villain here. Bcz like ravan she didn't kill anyone.
She is the hero of this show and its a fact can't be denied .
Anyway maya is not the one who is bad, here people are making her look bad bcz irresponsible fellow like arjun didn't try and understand her or love her enough to solve her problem.
Arjun's family is it even a good family ? Where vandana arjun's mom is a bitch who manhandled her daughter in law, throws garbage on her & hated her, called names 24/7 this woman as more worse from maya.
Maya isn't bad but the eyes which are looking at her are looking at what they want to look not the real picture of maya.

A mother in real has to see from neutral view but vandana is so callous woman. She isn't capable of that even.


Please revisit your knowledge of Ramayana, Ravan didn't kill anyone either, it's not just the killing whivj makes a person the villian

About Arjun, well he is irresponsible enough not to take Maya to a psychiatrist, but that doesn't make him bad

Arjun's family is no doubt bad, but in this story they are not important enough to become the villian (same with Saanjh), villian is a very important character in the story nearly as important as the hero, and in Beyhadh none of the family members of Arjun or Saanjh is that important as a character, they could at max be supporting villians

I never said that Maya isn't the hero, she is definitely one, but she is also the villian
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Depression should be treated with caution. But the producers of the series are not paying any heed to such a serious issue.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism


Please revisit your knowledge of Ramayana, Ravan didn't kill anyone either, it's not just the killing whivj makes a person the villian

About Arjun, well he is irresponsible enough not to take Maya to a psychiatrist, but that doesn't make him bad

Arjun's family is no doubt bad, but in this story they are not important enough to become the villian (same with Saanjh), villian is a very important character in the story nearly as important as the hero, and in Beyhadh none of the family members of Arjun or Saanjh is that important as a character, they could at max be supporting villians

I never said that Maya isn't the hero, she is definitely one, but she is also the villian


I don't agree with your theory.
Sanjh always behaves like vamp then why was she not called vamp by u? But the protagonist is villain for u.
Arjun is irresponsible ofcourse another bitch is vandana.
And maya has issues of mental illness
TBH every character has its own flaws and strengths in this show like real life only.
So it's not about maya being THE Villian.
I can't understand how her being loyal and loving obsessively makes
Her villain.
If u ask me again ashwin was villain of this show definitely .
Maya is the hero of this show & she is not s vamp just bcz she suffering with mental illness.
And no character of this shw is pure soul , everybody is grey so stop saying maya is vamp or villian with your ridiculous reasons.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Nithunavi why are u so ridiculously supportive of Maya? It's just a character. Chill. Understand what point others are making first. Rather than blindly assuming they're Maya haters and here to bash Maya.
Maya is lead. No doubt about that. But she is not a whitewashed character as many leads are in other shows and that is perfectly okay. That's the whole damn point. That Maya has issues. Deep and serious issues. No normal person would threaten to commit suicide every now and then. All the methods adapted by maya for taking her life, are given a broad scientific term, parasuicide. Which means u don't actually intend to take Ur life, u are just threatening to do it. Drinking phenyl, cutting ur wrist, doesn't really kill u. These instances are not the sign of a healthy life, both for the patient as well as for the ppl living with them. Other than the parasuicide, Maya has done a lot of stuff that point out to her being mentally ill.
She doesn't think twice before harming herself. Stalking Arjun to the extent of setting up a camera in the bathroom, killing 2 goldfish for pleasure just so that she could justify her dialogue of nobody coming between her and Arjun, manipulating any and everybody that comes in the way of her obsession and zidd, harming her own mother the minute she's out of the hospital by shoving a glass piece in her palm, these instances are not enough to say that she is mentally ill?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I already gave you the reason, Saanjh is too unimportant to be called a vamp, you need to be important to the storyline to become a vamp, and I don't think removing Saanjh from Beyhadh would make any difference to the story, so I can call her a bad character but not a vamp, she is at max the side vamp, the only thing being she isn't the fan of the main vamp
I don't like verbal abuse so wouldn't call Vandana the word you said, but yes she is a possessive grey character too, but do you really think she is the vamp? Don't show her for a month n there will be no halt to the story

About how obessesion makes Maya villian, well there are umpteen movies where the husband is obbsessive and is therefore the villian, making your partner suffocate in a relation is among the worst kinds of domestic violence,

By the way Maya has also committed criminal act i.e. suicide attempts

So yes Maya is the villian

Any typical story is 50% of the hero, 30% of the villian, 10% of the second lead n 10% of all the remaining characters

Here the story is 80% about Maya (both hero n villian share) 10% is of Arjun n 10% of Saanjh n Arjun's family

Anyhow I have put up my point, you are free to disagree and I am free to have my opinion
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Posted: 8 years ago
#48
It's a matter of perspective. One can call Maya a vamp, considering she does commit her crimes cold bloodedly. She was all ready to run over 2 persons with her car, manipulated hard and never cared about others feelings selflessly.

Then one can put forth her childhood and argue that she's mentally ill and has very obscure postive shades under dark grey shades.

But she's defo not a hero, in the conventional sense. She killed 2 fishes for no reason and that is hardly a heroic act.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I have a question to all avid watchers - I have missed few episodes here and there so I am not sure if i have missed it - Was Maya eveer shown to have remorse? Did she ever repent for the hurt she caused others? In short, does she have a conscience?
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Posted: 8 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: lumos_31

@Nithunavi why are u so ridiculously supportive of Maya? It's just a character. Chill. Understand what point others are making first. Rather than blindly assuming they're Maya haters and here to bash Maya.

Maya is lead. No doubt about that. But she is not a whitewashed character as many leads are in other shows and that is perfectly okay. That's the whole damn point. That Maya has issues. Deep and serious issues. No normal person would threaten to commit suicide every now and then. All the methods adapted by maya for taking her life, are given a broad scientific term, parasuicide. Which means u don't actually intend to take Ur life, u are just threatening to do it. Drinking phenyl, cutting ur wrist, doesn't really kill u. These instances are not the sign of a healthy life, both for the patient as well as for the ppl living with them. Other than the parasuicide, Maya has done a lot of stuff that point out to her being mentally ill.
She doesn't think twice before harming herself. Stalking Arjun to the extent of setting up a camera in the bathroom, killing 2 goldfish for pleasure just so that she could justify her dialogue of nobody coming between her and Arjun, manipulating any and everybody that comes in the way of her obsession and zidd, harming her own mother the minute she's out of the hospital by shoving a glass piece in her palm, these instances are not enough to say that she is mentally ill?


I understood what point are they trying to say. Did I say ever maya is a white washed char ?
They are saying maya is vamp or villian of this show which I don't agree.
And Why do u always find maya at fault ridiculously ?
Yes I'm also saying the same thing no character of this show is pure , and good. Every character has got its own faults same is wit maya.
I didn't say they are maya haters bt whatever point they made is ridiculous bcz maya is no vamp or villian of this show.
She isn't cheating on anyone and going around with someone's husband like other character to call her a vamp.thats whole point.

So u came with some new theory that Maya is acting all this by threatening arjun she will go kill herself before arjun and drunk phenyl just like that knowing fully well she wont be dead? And to act before arjun but she didn't had any intention of dying ???
Wow... u r unbelievable!
For godsake Maya didn't act or just threaten or intended to take her life but she is really insecure and afraid of the fact that her loved one wud leave her.
I can't even talk to u or explain who thinks maya has no mental illness now and she is perfectly fine but just villain of this shw. This is what want to prove right !
Go on. Whatever u rub on maya with ur assumptions like always u do except for ur bunch of Saanjh fanatics nobody cares😆😆

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