Dance of Time and Illusion ( Episode Analysis)Part 30updated DTNTPg131

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#881

@Darling I am not putting any perspective on the promos. Because in Beyhadh assumptions dont sail, only episodes sail. See Maya black is expected, I mean pushed to hilt she can murder. I had expected that. So it wont be shocking for me even if it happens. Because Maya is insecure about her relation with Arjun. Anything threatens that she will go to eliminate it. But that black has to be exposed if light has to come. So far the facade wins

@aditi why does the empathy for Maya come. It doesnt come for the woman Maya is. It comes for the child before 9 year old. I want that child to go, so that she becomes death incarnate. A person who has a very twisted mind and twisted mind only. See till this point somewhere that child lingers. Nothing of that child before 9 years should remain in her. That Maya who lost innocence on her 9th birthday has to stand exposed.

Whether Ashwin abused her. That's a million dollar question. I would have said no if I had not seen those FBs and those dialogues in season 1. I would still prefer to go with the analysis that Maya learned from Ashwin this twisted ways are the ways to win. From the 9th birthday a criminal is born . So much is stressed on that 9th birthday so a life changing thing happened on 9th birthday and I feel it is her criminal personality.

Only thing I want to know is, does she have MPD. Season 1 there were glimpses where I felt she had MPD. If MPD then the innocent Maya that comes now and then is slowly going and the criminal Maya is taking its place.

Season 2 however is not giving me any indications of MPD, it is more mood swings and extremities.

Maya's 2 birth dates with one day in between also gives me indication of MPD. One innocent, one dark.

If I remember right when Saanjh first meets Maya her boss Malkhani tells Maya cannot win the case, it is a lost cause. But Saanjh tells she can. Because when she signed the document she was a juvenile and it has no legal validity based on her two birth dates.

I had thought at that point Saanjh will show the path to Maya. Saanjh will make Maya win from Ashwin. She will see what others dont see. Because even in first episode she sees Maya's tears.

Maya thinks her path to victory is that darkness. I would have wanted someone to show her, her path to victory is that child before 9 years. She was not mad and bad before 9 years, but she became one post that. There is no denying that fact.

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Nithunavi

@Nithunavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#882

Shruti di.. the episode was okay types for me.

Nice Analysis !

According to me...In the first scene where maya tells vandy "mein buri nhi hu" somehow feels like it is true from maya's side because she already before day confessed this to jhanvi.

She doesn't want vandy to become a hurdle btwn Arjun & her otherwise she's okay with her. So may be she doesn't want to lose her control unnecessarily and warning vandy before hand.

And her being used to pain is it referred to ashwin torture?

Mentally ill people only can do this extreme things and don't fear or feel pain while doing those things to themselves. They mentally have this strong strength in themselves and to go any lengths.

So I don't think or believe like vandy said maya is buri.. she is beemar for me.

Do u think maya is evil?

I laughed hard when maya said 'maa ko aise aadat hain kachra dale ki" those dialogues.. & also that reaction of Vandy was funny..

Coming to the msg idk what's so useful in it even ? And why did she write arjun is in danger ? When it is HER !

May be like u said to trigger Sanjh & serious in this issue.

What are your thoughts on promo di?

I don't think Maya will kill Vandy & Sanjh because they are also needed characters further right? Why will they remove one of the characters?

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CutiepieAD

@CutiepieAD

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Posted: 8 years ago

#883

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@aditi why does the empathy for Maya come. It doesnt come for the woman Maya is. It comes for the child before 9 year old. I want that child to go, so that she becomes death incarnate. A person who has a very twisted mind and twisted mind only. See till this point somewhere that child lingers. Nothing of that child before 9 years should remain in her. That Maya who lost innocence on her 9th birthday has to stand exposed.
Whether Ashwin abused her. That's a million dollar question. I would have said no if I had not seen those FBs and those dialogues in season 1. I would still prefer to go with the analysis that Maya learned from Ashwin this twisted ways are the ways to win. From the 9th birthday a criminal is born . So much is stressed on that 9th birthday so a life changing thing happened on 9th birthday and I feel it is her criminal personality.

Only thing I want to know is, does she have MPD. Season 1 there were glimpses where I felt she had MPD. If MPD then the innocent Maya that comes now and then is slowly going and the criminal Maya is taking its place.

Season 2 however is not giving me any indications of MPD, it is more mood swings and extremities.

Maya's 2 birth dates with one day in between also gives me indication of MPD. One innocent, one dark.
If I remember right when Saanjh first meets Maya her boss Malkhani tells Maya cannot win the case, it is a lost cause. But Saanjh tells she can. Because when she signed the document she was a juvenile and it has no legal validity based on her two birth dates.

I had thought at that point Saanjh will show the path to Maya. Saanjh will make Maya win from Ashwin. She will see what others dont see. Because even in first episode she sees Maya's tears.

Maya thinks her path to victory is that darkness. I would have wanted someone to show her, her path to victory is that child before 9 years. She was not mad and bad before 9 years, but she became one post that. There is no denying that fact.

I too prefer her to be an abused child which made her so vindictive. That makes more sense. And makes me connect to Maya

FBs itself is very confusing. Because Maya gets FBs in Ayaan's case n we know it wasn't the whole truth, it was Maya's side of truth.

Ashwin would not be dudh ka dhula even after they establish Maya as black but maybe they prove that Ashwin abusing Maya was just like Ayaan abusing Maya. (here Ayaan isn't completely a saint but not completely black as well maybe same is with Ashwin)

What struck me was Maya comparing VM to Ashwin. Whatever VM predicted was true but then noone believed, so maybe they do the same with Ashwin.

But then what was that her worshipping Ganesha😕 that shows she has innate goodness in her..

I think she has MPD and her alter ego makes her do the crimes but one part of her believes that she's victim.

She also seems to have schizophrenia. If I am not wrong here the patient lives in a dilusional world and believes in that as if it's the truth.

The way Maya speaks lies , looks as if she's saying the truth. This much conviction while lying can come only if she believes what she's saying is true hence I feel she has made her own world where she's the victim and everyone abuses her n controls her.

Anyway what disorder she has will be revealed, I hope they make it fast 😆😆

In first episode n ArYa marriage epi I thought Saanjh will be the one who helps out Maya but can't see that happening😕😆

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sunithi

@sunithi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#884

@aditi..Is VM predicted anything or believed whatever ashwin said...Till now those who r against Maya believed what ashwin said not even once ready to considered what Maya was saying...only a part of it how and y Maya has taken up ashwin methods r left in Maya ka sach..

I believe Maya compared VM to ashwin becox of her way of treating or treated Maya as bad omen...Ashwin did the same with Maya...Ashwin was able to threaten Maya or frighten Maya will VM able to do so???

Indirectly implies VM will get the same end as Ashwin...

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#885

@aditi Ashwin can never be doodh ka dhula. Point is Jhanvi. Is she doodh de dhuli. If it is schizophrenia then it stems from her belief first her mother victim and then she victim. If you see in every violent action of Maya, you can see she is affected. Other party has not been in the complete clear either.

The TRP increase has given CVs the freedom to drag the track . On a side note Jenny's dresses are good. Even Saanjh is given good dresses and yesterday that multilayered skirt looked better on Aneri. I guess that style suits her.

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sunithi

@sunithi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#886

@shruti di ve a doubt what do u meant by Maya will take away dirts of Sharma and saanj do the same for Maya house..

Ayan obession over girls will get ended with rape case,Arjun obession over ambition will end,what about VM obession???VM is big question mark..whats her dirt story??

Whats saanj role in removing garbage of Maya house??Maya obession and Jhanvi ???What's Jhanvi story???

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#887

@sunithi for me Ashwin instilled certain things on child Maya and Maya started behaving that way post certain time. You can say Ashwin moulded her as bad and mad. Ashwin put that belief into Vandana and Vandana carried that belief. See Maya asks can somebody be alive after they are dead. Yes it will happen because thoughts are shared. Unless you change the perspective with which you look at the problem, unless you change actions history will repeat. If Maya remove Ashwin, a Vandana will come, if Vandana removed someone else will come. How long you will survive in the madness of killing people to show you good. With each killing you are becoming more bad.

If you have to correct thoughts, actions have to be changed. That's why it has been told again and again Maya doesnt know to swim. To live life you need to understand how to swim through the turbulence that affect you.

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CutiepieAD

@CutiepieAD

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Posted: 8 years ago

#888

@Sunithi VM n Ashwin are in same position for Maya as VM can snatch away Arjun n Ashwin could snatch Janvi

So she treats both equally right now..

Abt VM's perception I will say it was wrong on her part not to give Maya a second chance. She was blind with Arjun's love.

@Shruthi di Jhanvi is more mysterious actually, dunno what she's hiding, hope she opens her mouth.

Yes the ppl around Maya aren't fully perfect either. I hope no more dragging please :((

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#889

4/5/2017

You know one of the best things I love about this show. It is when they play with the metaphor of Maya. Monday episode was that. How the complete truth people told as they pleased and perception or Maya won. Today there was another instance of the same. From the message Vandana sent to Saanjh a word " Help " got missing which landed in Maya's hand. Maya just got the word help. Saanjh got everything else except help. Now would the word help had made any difference to the message Saanjh received. Where in that whole message the word help would have come. If it means someone helping Maya, then Saanjh got it. Also the word was help, not helping. I still cannot place where " Help" would have come that would have given a different meaning to the message and without help it meant something else. Guys please help, as I missed first couple of minutes where Saanjh reads message. See one word missed out can alter the message and we think that is the truth. Our actions stem from what we perceive the truth. Now Maya burned the Help. So the word is erased completely from message and its absence is going to cause fire. Once again it reminded me of Maya slow burning that brinjal. This one was fast.

Now coming to Samay. Phew he is showing Maya her mirror and once in a while he shows the mirror to Saanjh also.Yes in some episodes he was the male version of Saanjh, but in today's episode he was the male version of Maya. Self harming to prove his love. This is what Maya does also. Harm herself and put it on Arjun. Samay harms himself and sends selfie to Maya. I have done this for you. I was enjoying it when Maya is shocked seeing that pic. Only time can dethrone Maya. Only Samay can play the game with Maya in her way. Ok so the khandaani ring is not coming to Samay. He does not have finger to wear engagement ring. Time wants to be with Maya and Maya pushes time towards Saanjh. Her choice is Arjun.

Coming to Vandana Mata. Mata you are in lioness den. Think about yourself a bit. Today I felt Maya's warning was genuine. She have given a harsh warning. Now she doesnt want to be more bad. She sees what all Vandana has done but as she rightly said she is ignoring them. She didnt question Vandana on the secret message, only stopped her from going to Saanjh enagagement. Yes she is fine as long as Vandana is not a threat to her relation with Arjun. But obviously VM will do more sherlock homes and Maya will cross her limits. As I said yesterday some part of that girl before 9th birthday exists, but soon that will also go pushing her into the abyss.

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CutiepieAD

@CutiepieAD

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

#890

Agree with your whole post Shruthi di

Maya was genuine today, it is in her eyes when she's genuine. There's no doubt she wants to change but again goes back to her manipulative side. She has her conscience prikking which I really loved abt her, but alas she's gone too far now.

Maya caught Vandy n Saanjh just by looking at their eyes!!! Can I just salute her!!?? She's just too good ...

Shruthi di Vandana wrote many important things

1) Arjun doesn't hit maya, Maya hits herself

2) maybe that's how she framed Ayan

3) Arjun is in danger

Then it should have been help nd that peel Maya got..

But Saanjh got full info IMO.

Samay scene was too creepy,

But as u said she showed Maya the true picture.

Vandana knows Maya so well. She said "is she having affair? But how's that possible, she won't look at anyone else accept Arjun"

And of course Maya too knows her well. Finally Maya has got a good competitor much better than Saanjh. I will be disappointed if she dies :(( she's interesting nowadays...

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