Arjuns Problem=Saanjh? Holika Deyhan Symbolism

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OriginalsFan

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Posted: 8 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: lumos_31

Correct urself, the only pareshaani in Maya's life is Saanjh. Arjun is blissfully unaware of the bhuchaal about to come into his life. And thats arjuns problem. Nope, vandana didn't mean anything like that. This ain't even a symbolism i feel.

You feel whatever you want to feel it won't change fact that Saanjh is the problem. Doesn't matter what Vandana meant, she said problems and it was Saanjh who caught fire not Maya

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Nithunavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: Peacelover15
currently the only pareshani in Arjun and Maya's life is Saanjh and Vandana had prayed that hope Arjun ki pareshani khatam ho jaaye,Now i have one more question did Vandana mean that Maya gets burned down?Then it's very low and crass thinking of her.

From start she's one senseless woman who needs some serious help.

And also saanjh said & wished 'let maya die'

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Nithunavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: lumos_31

That's ur perspective, mine's what i said. Honestly, i don't even feel it was a symbolism. But if it was meant to be one, then maya is a problem in Arjun's life. A few more episodes,and everything will be clear. Had Saanjh been a problem, then Arjun wouldn't have lived 25 yrs of his life blissfully.

Yes if saanjh isn't a problem she isn't a solution either. If u see his 25y of life it was her tagging along with him but never she was able to make the relationship btwn VM & arjun better.

If she was so good influence she was cud able to inspire arjun anytime.

After even her mom explaining to her in good way to not become a third wheel in arYa life she still sticks around arjun & goes secret dates & Cross all the limits and misuses the freedom and trust of maya.

Arjun isn't a good person either. He's one selfish guy who doesn't care abt Ayaan or saanjh as they do.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

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I guess Saanjh should have burnt. Why Maya went to save her. Her hands wouldnt have burned. Her hands burn because of the action she took to protect someone. Symbolism is often that happens on its own, not by some action especially the protective action.

Saanjh who was wrecking her home, Maya jumped to save her. I guess the morality of people is that they dont mind Saanjh almost kissing a married man. Well she can do it. Also she can do close rang barse dance with a married man and a would be father.

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Fragrance63

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Posted: 8 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: ishakumar
One thing i have noticed in the episode is that
vandana said she wants arjuns problems to burn in the holika deyhan😉

just then, when saanjh is performing the pooja she is about to get burned when her dupaata catches fire... is this an indication😲👏
is saanjh the problem in Arjuns life?😕

i thought that was some great symbolism there👏
that even tho saanjh thinks that she is arjuns friend and well-wisher, she is actually creating more problems than bringing happiness in Arjuns life. her presence influences him more negatively than positively.

let me give a small comparison:
when arjun is drinking
saanjh tried to stop him but couldn't, but then she ultimately gives up and lets him do what he wants
maya accomplished to stop him for his betterment... maya doesnt give up until he tells her he won't drink anymore.

this is a small example with a big meaning
often we think that people (be it parents, spouses) constantly nag us and tell us to stop doing certain things. we often get annoyed, but we dont realize they are saying that for our betterment. arjun at this point was thinking exactly the same thing. At this point he was choosing the friend that allowed him to drink, rather than the wife that doesnt want anything bad to happen to him. he was enjoying that one drink that could've ultimately brought him to his death rather than worrying about his wife and unborn child.🥱

one more thing i would like to add is the there is a difference between a wife crying and a girlfriend crying...
if your wife cries cuz of you, it shows that you have failed in some responsibility/duty
if your girlfriend cries cuz of you, it shows that you have failed in some expectation
a man has duties towards a wife, and just expectations towards a girlfriend
there is a big difference🥱🥱🥱
up until the point that maya wasn't arjun's wife, maya just had expectations from arjun. but now arjun has duties to fulfill, and any sane wife would go crazy seeing her husband do that disgusting PDA with his so called best friend in the name of friendship!🤢🤢

sorry for the rant😆
please let me know your views👍🏼

Oh and last but not the least, that office scene with Maya sittin on the table was quite sensuous and hot 😳 😆 😉

Very well said! Maya is neither evil or negative.She has grey shades like a few other characters here. From the beginning I have found it is Saanjh who is so possessive about Arjun that she stifles him. She never gave him any space to grow. Saanjh brings out the bad qualities of Arjun while Maya brings out the good ones.

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kavita

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Posted: 8 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: Peacelover15
currently the only pareshani in Arjun and Maya's life is Saanjh and Vandana had prayed that hope Arjun ki pareshani khatam ho jaaye,Now i have one more question did Vandana mean that Maya gets burned down?Then it's very low and crass thinking of her.

Vandana was obviously referring to Maya as she is a bad omen according to her superstitious beliefs.😊

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kavita

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Posted: 8 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: Fragrance63

Very well said! Maya is neither evil or negative.She has grey shades like a few other characters here. From the beginning I have found it is Saanjh who is so possessive about Arjun that she stifles him. She never gave him any space to grow. Saanjh brings out the bad qualities of Arjun while Maya brings out the good ones.

@bold: Some people complain about Maya controlling Arjun whereas the fact is even Saanjh does the same thing & probably even worse than that. If Maya tells Arjun not to drink, that is for his well-being. No matter how Maya is, she has always been interested in his well-being. Saanjh had eventually allowed Arjun to drink. The fact is that Arjun does not know how to utilize his freedom in a concrete way. Your life is yours as long as it does not affect others. But this seems to be out of Arjun's head.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#18

@kavsy VM beliefs she is Maa Durga.😆😆. Else who will stand in front of Goddess and proclaim to Maya, Goddess does not support bad people. yes she is true. Goddess does not protect bad people, bad actions and bad intend too. She is for dharma. That is why she is called Maa Durga. But who is VM to decide who is bad, who is good whose actions are right, whose actions are wrong. That job is Maa Durga's 😆😆 and she will do it very nicely also.

I still remember in EHT there were 3 scenes where Maa Durga is challenged. One by Sakshi, that was one challenge where Sakshi claims herself to be Maa Durga. Then by Dr Dayal who questions her. Last but not least the protoganist Dev who tells I will not come to your temple if I dont get Nithya😆😆. It was fun to see how Maa Durga dealt with each of these characters. Both Sakshi and Dev were humbled. Dayal got a way as a answer to his question.

Now we have one lady who has told the God give whatever written for me to Maya. So Saanjh has given whatever written for her to Maya. We still dont know what was written for her. She thinks Arjun, but I feel there is more to it. So new things will come to Saanjh or things that are not written for her.

Then we have VM who is self made Maa Durga who decides what is right, what is wrong. To the extend she cannot bring a sick woman to her home. She was supposed to be a nurse. So she will get her sweet answer from Maa Durga. She has to get.

I always say atleast in temple be humble. Whatever deity it is there it is the supreme power, a power that sees things beyond us, a power that knows things much better than us, dont proclaim things, dont utter hatred words, dont challenge the power unnecessarily. VM doesnt even think it is mandir and supreme power watching while bashing Maya.

That fire on Saanjh dupatta shows how much wrong Vandana's thinking and perspectives are.

Edited by shruthiravi - 8 years ago

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Dhrishti

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Posted: 8 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: ishakumar
One thing i have noticed in the episode is that
vandana said she wants arjuns problems to burn in the holika deyhan😉

just then, when saanjh is performing the pooja she is about to get burned when her dupaata catches fire... is this an indication😲👏
is saanjh the problem in Arjuns life?😕

i thought that was some great symbolism there👏
that even tho saanjh thinks that she is arjuns friend and well-wisher, she is actually creating more problems than bringing happiness in Arjuns life. her presence influences him more negatively than positively.

let me give a small comparison:
when arjun is drinking
saanjh tried to stop him but couldn't, but then she ultimately gives up and lets him do what he wants
maya accomplished to stop him for his betterment... maya doesnt give up until he tells her he won't drink anymore.

this is a small example with a big meaning
often we think that people (be it parents, spouses) constantly nag us and tell us to stop doing certain things. we often get annoyed, but we dont realize they are saying that for our betterment. arjun at this point was thinking exactly the same thing. At this point he was choosing the friend that allowed him to drink, rather than the wife that doesnt want anything bad to happen to him. he was enjoying that one drink that could've ultimately brought him to his death rather than worrying about his wife and unborn child.🥱

one more thing i would like to add is the there is a difference between a wife crying and a girlfriend crying...
if your wife cries cuz of you, it shows that you have failed in some responsibility/duty
if your girlfriend cries cuz of you, it shows that you have failed in some expectation
a man has duties towards a wife, and just expectations towards a girlfriend
there is a big difference🥱🥱🥱
up until the point that maya wasn't arjun's wife, maya just had expectations from arjun. but now arjun has duties to fulfill, and any sane wife would go crazy seeing her husband do that disgusting PDA with his so called best friend in the name of friendship!🤢🤢

sorry for the rant😆
please let me know your views👍🏼

Oh and last but not the least, that office scene with Maya sittin on the table was quite sensuous and hot 😳 😆 😉

I haven't seen the last two episodes but it looks like the SaaJun drama is still ongoing..

Bold - Very well put, that's the main difference between a relationship and a marriage

So there's a hot ArYa scene? At least a table is an upgrade from a terrace 😆

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Japrilforever

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Posted: 8 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: Nithunavi

Yes if saanjh isn't a problem she isn't a solution either. If u see his 25y of life it was her tagging along with him but never she was able to make the relationship btwn VM & arjun better.
If she was so good influence she was cud able to inspire arjun anytime.
After even her mom explaining to her in good way to not become a third wheel in arYa life she still sticks around arjun & goes secret dates & Cross all the limits and misuses the freedom and trust of maya.
Arjun isn't a good person either. He's one selfish guy who doesn't care abt Ayaan or saanjh as they do.

Agreed. Saanjh couldn't make Arjun's and Vandana's relationship better. So what? It's not like Arjun was unhappy and dealing with tough situations which is the case right now. I never said Saanjh beneficial in Arjun's life, i said that she didn't make his life hell . If ursuggesting that maya was all mahaan and purposely told her life story to arjun so that he could go back to his mother, i disagree again. Maya had no role to play except for the fact that her experiences that made arjun realise Vandana's value in his life. Other than that, we can see how much Maya has brought Arjun and vandana close.

The secret date Ur talking about, was to talk to Arjun about reuniting with his family and to give a surprise to maya with that chain. As stupid as it sounds, it is proof that Saanjh has no intention to be 'Arjuns mistress' as many of ul wrongly assume and very rudely label her as one.

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