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Posted: 8 years ago
@ shruthiravi... Once again reading your post entertained me than watching the episode itself... Thank you for that... 👍🏼...
I only dun understand one thing, fine Maya is placing Arjun above all and in any event when she deals with vandana its either saaanjh / arjun / ayaan is there... so she puts up a good bahu image / trying to set things right.. but there was one instant where she falls on vandata mata for blessing, there no one was there ... why did she do that... what will she benefit from it...

Saanjh has already started to doubt... But what i did not like is arjun saying even if Jhanvi has done something wrong, does not matter, he will need to save her for Maya... I feel here Arjun also thinks he has the power & money now to do anything...

Really ... Maya was sleeping😆 ... and not doing anything... This is not the Maya Mehrotra that we use to see... who does not trust anyone... Unless there was a flasback later than Maya indeed heard Arjun & saanjh convo and knew help will be there on time... or perhaps she already had back up plan if saanjh / arjun does not turn up... And Maya seems to sense that Saanjh has already started to question abt Jhanvi...

I guess at one point Saanjh will back off and this will lead to more problems especially to Arjun, Maya & Jhanvi... arjun will think that Saanjh is doing on purpose coz of her love for him & hate for Maya, Maya will think once again no one can be trusted... But Vandana Mata will be happy she got her saanjh back 😆

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Exactly Poornima. Saanjh's values are not allowing her to defend a murderer. See the problem is the thought has been grilled into her head Jhanvi may be guilty, so she will not fight with complete conviction for Jhanvi's acquittal.

Arjun has not just ordered Saanjh, he is hiding from Maya too. He thinks he can solve everything. Girls just need to listen to him
Remember photographer kaun hai. I am sure this guy is going to be in deep mess.

Agree.
Arjun wants to solve all the problems. But he goes ahead, not thinking about how and what is happening. Again, he doesn't look in depth, he again doesn't solve the problem, but only trying to sweep its consequences. He agrees with Jhanvi that she believed him, and he was able to "cure" her. For Maya. It's his obsession. It isn't Maya. Even before he fell in love with Maya, he said, that love for him is the limit, and if cross it, there is no way back. It's his words, that in love person does what he should not do. This is an important fact in the treasury of Vandana and Dusky - they are absolutely completely don't know Arjun. He isn't blinded by love, it's how Arjun understands love, he knew it so before, so maybe that's why Dusky could never take a place in his heart. For him, love - this is madness that breaks all limits of right, morality and other things.
Arjun tries to keep one promise, but for the sake it he breakings others. Maybe that's why he hides his thoughts and actions from Maya. "Arjun Sharma will not say anything, because of what Mrs. Maya Arjun Sharma could go away from him"
Arjun scared Maya. He was scared her. As a joke. But this doesn't change the fact that Arjun scared Maya. Maya knows such love. She saw such love in Jhanvi. And she very well knows the value of this love. This price is very high
And for this Arjun's haste, for the transition limits would pay Maya
Vandana made the scandal in the temple. In the temple! This person has no respect even for God, what can say about the human relation to Maya? And she's looking for shortcomings in Maya, she calls her problem and blames all the deadly sins. Person that cursing in front of God, she is supposedly good mom
What irony
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Posted: 8 years ago
@ashpat I am not surprised by Saanjh's stand. At one point Saanjh will have to choose between Arjun and her principles. She has left her father multiple times for the sake of Arjun. Will she leave her principles too. Because Arjun is making her do that. And you said right. One time Arjun will be alone
@kratika Maya's love is, if she loves someone right or wrong is secondary. She will protect them. Maya wants to leave jhanvi's hand.

@riyya she tried. She tried earnestly once. But didnt get the support. So she is doing what she has started doing. If Vandana Mata had stopped bugging maybe she would have earnestly tried to change. Coming to Maya sleeping through it. Did she really. Look at the way she answered Saanjh. Can someone come back from death. How is it possible. hope Arjun can make Maa understand. How did she know Arjun is staying there to make Jhanvi understand Ashwin cannot come back from death. Arjun didnt tell her. Second it was a question to Saanjh. How can Ashwin come back from death. So that means if Jhanvi sees Ashwin probably he is alive. So where is he alive. If you see he is alive through Vandana. He has put his poison onto her. Saanjh has to reach this truth. Vandana was the last person who saw Ashwin alive.

@Laska if you go to temple and do the things Vandana did thinking you are over and above the Goddess, the reply will come from her. I am happy they showed the mother Goddess, Maa Durga who is witnessing the assault of a so called mother on a girl who is trying to change. She will show Vandana what it means to be Maa. What is the meaning of protection. Vandana's ego has gone over the head. That needs a mightly fall.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@shruti ..don't mistake me, but I have to disagree to what you said...here saanjhs trust towards adjunct is breaking down,to save someone who committed murder is wrong and saanjh should not support them,if she does then that's the main fall of her characterization...you know what makers are trying to show vandanas fear is coming true..this show won't show Maya rising as kaali,nothing of that sort will happen...wait and watch...arjun will go against the ways to live morally...wgatwvr he will do will be the correct one for his ladylove but for law and principles it won't be that's how vandanas fear will come true...saanjh if stands agaisnt arya when they are wrong means saanjh is not wrong, one can go against people but against principles is like living a naked life...this is my opinion!!!! If Maya is really changing then her first step should have been an apology for breaking saanjh many times purposely..don't you think so...this is one roop of Maya trying to take control on things,being submissive to become an emperor once again...this show is about Maya and this Maya is not convincing at all...
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Posted: 8 years ago
@sindu it is the tug of war between Saanjh and her principles. Will she go down what Arjun wants or will she stay firm on her principles. Fine what if her principles bring destruction to her family. Will she stay with principles or she will bend the principles to get justice for the family. Saanjh has to go Kali route. But for what is the question. It is easy to take moral high ground when it is happening to someone else. Maya's mother is third party. What if it is your mother. Will Saanjh have taken the same stance. That's where you define moral high ground.
Maya is becoming submissive to be the emperor I understood. But it is not that Maya is not at all trying to be genuine. She is trying. But Vandana brings back the past to her. So she starts manipulating.
Show is about Maya. Not just Maya the person, but Maya the perceptions.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@sindu it is the tug of war between Saanjh and her principles. Will she go down what Arjun wants or will she stay firm on her principles. Fine what if her principles bring destruction to her family. Will she stay with principles or she will bend the principles to get justice for the family. Saanjh has to go Kali route. But for what is the question. It is easy to take moral high ground when it is happening to someone else. Maya's mother is third party. What if it is your mother. Will Saanjh have taken the same stance. That's where you define moral high ground.

Maya is becoming submissive to be the emperor I understood. But it is not that Maya is not at all trying to be genuine. She is trying. But Vandana brings back the past to her. So she starts manipulating.
Show is about Maya. Not just Maya the person, but Maya the perceptions.

Beautiful reply shruti...I shall not see saanjh going to stand by jhaanvi if she is killer...but if she prefers then what is the point in Maya changing,again it would be like save your loved ones by any means...Maya is genuine in her love always, I strongly agree shruti,one of the thing I love about Maya...vandana no comments from my side...one character that is currently annoying me...makers will show vandana and her fears corrrect...I won't say show is about mayas perceptions rather it's mayas way of living :)))
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Posted: 8 years ago
@sindu if you think about your fear, your fear manifests, because your actions are based on your thoughts. Even we do it.
Also it is not Maya's perceptions, it is about Maya or Perception that cloud everyone's decision making. It happens to us also. In many cases without analyzing we judge. Then our action is based on our judgement.
And analysis one of the thumb rule is be open. No pre conceived notions of good or bad. Only the data in front of you. Be open to unexpected findings. Dont run away from if they are not as per your expectation. Check why it is there. Everything has a reason. Some reason you know, some reason you dont know.
Perception happens because of our ego and our know all attitude. If you accept I know only a drop of the ocean of knowledge you will rise above perceptions. That humility is the key thing in cutting perceptions.
At this point Saanjh is the only character in which I have seen genuine humility. Her apology after email fiasco was genuine. So if this girl fails she will go back and check where she failed, how she failed and can come back and fight the battle of the life.

No other character at this point is open for failure for me. They cant take failure. They will do anything to win.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sindu_gurti

If Maya is really changing then her first step should have been an apology for breaking saanjh many times purposely..don't you think so...this is one roop of Maya trying to take control on things,being submissive to become an emperor once again...this show is about Maya and this Maya is not convincing at all...

Well, doesn't Saanj repent for her actions in relation to Maya?
Just marvel, only Maya should fall on her knees and beg forgiveness from all the others, no matter how ugly, they do unto her. Double standards such double😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
Maya hasn't done anything wrong to ask forgiveness. It was Arjun's choice and he made it. Even Arjun took steps towards Maya he never felt it for Saanjh so it's not Maya's fault
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Laska

Well, doesn't Saanj repent for her actions in relation to Maya?
Just marvel, only Maya should fall on her knees and beg forgiveness from all the others, no matter how ugly, they do unto her. Double standards such double😕

why so much anger on my opinion, from where does this word double standards coming from...when saanjh felt wrong she did apologize to Maya., and don't make my comments as Maya vs saanjh..asking sorry doesn't mean one is falling on someoens knee...don't try to read between lines.,its my conversation with shruti and if you can't stay away try to be at least polite, don't tell me what I should talk to shruti now!!!

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