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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Andromeda what a beautiful take dear. The queen. She is the miss between the cup and the lip. It is said if you dont get the queen before the king well the battle turns. Queen if she asserts her right she can very well change the cards.

It is what Panchali does in infamous hall of dice. Shakuni had his bloodless coup, but with one question she changes the whole scenario

But the question is you will need a third party to protect her if king does some great blunder which our Arjun is capable of 😆😆. He does have a king size ego.

I am searching my Madhav of Beyhadh who will come to protect the queen. The player who is not currently in the chess board. The wild card.

At this point you have following people on the board. Ashwin and Maya players. Jhanvi, Vandana, Arjun, Saanjh the mohras.

Battle needs 3 players who are not visible in this battle, but plays the most decisive role in the final battle. And a Karmasakshi or rather sun who sees everything, everything depends on whether the sun sets or not, but the one who is not directly involved in battle.

Madhav and sun. They decide the battle as the Leela the antidote of Maya is going to happen between them.

You know what I feel??Previously Arjun wasn't the King in the game.He too was a pawn like Saanjh,Ayaan,Vandy,etc.But when Maya handed the company to him,she made him the King in the game.She gave him the importance and vitality which a King has.Now she has to keep a constant watch on him along with fending off her enemies because nothing should happen to the King.Neither can the king take a wrong move.

Completely agree with you that a third party is needed to protect the Queen in case the King makes a reckless move.
The 'Madhav' of Beyhadh has two important tasks.He/She has to protect Maya and also keep her in check if she does venture into the extreme.

The Karmasakshi who will supervise the game is needed too.A wise figure who will see beyond both the parties.At the moment all the characters are on one side or another.The Karmasakshi has to be above all these.


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Posted: 8 years ago
@pom Saanjh cannot be Madhav. She was my first choice though. Reason she is already in the board. Madhav is someone who is not in the board, but the person who is there.
See Jhanvi the lady why she goes for Ashwin. Is it just the abla nari obsessive love or there is more to it as you and me were discussing. Why Jhanvi needs such an abusive husband. Why. Is Maya's life itself is Maya or rather a perception she lives 😃. It is a good question to be frank

@Andromeda yes Madhav has to do both things. Protect Maya and keep her within limits. And Karmasakshi you defined well.
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Posted: 8 years ago
The king & the queen game reminds me of chess game.😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
@shruti
then can it be ayaan, that madhav ? Bcoz he isn't in the board but witnessing the game. I mean may be he might turn strong & sees things from 3rd perspective as now arjun got the whole property things might doubt him. Just a guessing..
And Prem what do u think about him ? Don't he play anything in this game ??

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Posted: 8 years ago
@katrina it is chess game that is what Andromeda tells
@Nithu Ayaan is in my sight. I am observing him very closely 😉 so is Shubham and Prem😃. But have not fixed anyone.

Being Madhav is not being strong. Madhav has a steadfast goal. One that is seen by everyone, one hidden. You need a character who has such a motive. One the seen goal, one the hidden goal. His actions are inline with hidden goal, though everyone thinks it is with respect to the goal seen by everyone. Hence it becomes confusing what he wants. So I am evaluating everyone's visible motive and actions. The one whose visible motive and action not matching has to be Madhav. 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@katrina it is chess game that is what Andromeda tells

@Nithu Ayaan is in my sight. I am observing him very closely 😉 so is Shubham and Prem😃. But have not fixed anyone.

Being Madhav is not being strong. Madhav has a steadfast goal. One that is seen by everyone, one hidden. You need a character who has such a motive. One the seen goal, one the hidden goal. His actions are inline with hidden goal, though everyone thinks it is with respect to the goal seen by everyone. Hence it becomes confusing what he wants. So I am evaluating everyone's visible motive and actions. The one whose visible motive and action not matching has to be Madhav. 😃


No..no I meant being strong is being the string observer. Until now he's quiet but observing. He was also just confused at maya press conference day also & in observing mode.
But now that arjun has got the property in his name I'm sure vandana will tell him that it isn't the right thing he did & she won't like it being a self respect valuing woman.
But ayaan I'm thinking of his reaction. From today's episode we can see what ayan's reaction is going to be. Like will he think about it, doubt abt it or just jump about it 😆😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
@shruti di..
I feel prem will be path guider for saanjh somewhere down the lane.
Or may be he also can be playing imp twist in story.
This Suman, do u think she has come with a clean heart to help in Arjun's wedding or she has her own motives for her daughter sake ?!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Nithu where to place Suman I am not sure. I dont think she has any evil intention. No Suman is not that type who will do something to intentionally harm anyone. But we need to understand she is also a mother who has seen her daughter broken. A dream which was nurtured by her and Vandana had crashed.
And her equation with her husband at this point is not great. As I feel Prem wants to stay away from Arjun family which is quite understandable.
So between Prem and Suman there can be a tug of war based on Saanjh decision. And Suman will support Saanjh of course whatever funda she is gonna do and her blind support to her daughter may land everyone in soup is my take.

For me Suman has a complete bollywood style of take for life. Maybe her life was like that. She married a man against her parents wishes, but he turned out to be good. She had 2 adoring kids Saanjh and Shubham. A good family friend in Vandana , Arjun and Ayaan. So pretty much a fairytale story. i did what I felt like doing and see I have succeeded.
So for her, what you feel you need to do or rather you have to try because that is the freedom. The Beyhadh freedom of Suman will make Saanjh stick to her beyhadh decisions despite the wise counsel of Prem.

For me at this point Saanjh is also beyhadh, Maya is also beyhadh. And you need to see one thing. Maya doesnt know to swim hence she ended up beyhadh. Prem says he has taught Saanjh swimming, but it is upto her to swim based on that direction. So Saanjh goes beyhadh forgetting the lessons she got from her loving father.


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Posted: 8 years ago
I am going to be a bit harsh in my critique of Arjun and Saanjh, please excuse... nothing personal, just my perspective of their character.

Maya has manipulated Arjun so smoothly till now, that Arjun never realized that she manipulated him. Vandana who was initially suspicious towards Maya has warmed up or rather accepted Maya.

Only Saanjh is unhappy with Arjun Maya relationship and that in turn makes her a jaasoos. Saanj has a self interest in proving maya bad... to the extent of being obsessed with it, in-spite of her family and friends asking her to lay off.

Why cant we consider Arjun holding the company as Maya's benami property? Given how successfully Maya has pulled the carpet from under Arjun's foot... her investments are extremely safe. Arjun would never know given his past history. Where in this entire story has he used his brain? Its always been his brawn and charm 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
25/01/2017

Maya action: She takes the second vow from Arjun that he will trust her completely. Voice of the world in one direction and her voice in one direction. ( Actually this vow gives credibility to the view of some of my discussion members Maya is playing with Saanjh)

Arjun reaction: He gives the vow extinguishing the fire. That symbolically also meant he will burn in the fire, but he will extinguish whatever fire that is burning her

Saanjh reactions: This was a beauty today. Saanjh followed up the medical file. She found the pills in Maya's bag. Came to know it is for depression. Threatened the insurance guy and knew Maya went for psychiatric treatment from childhood. I wont say Saanjh has no reason to be worried. Esepcially when she sees marks in Maya's hands. Yes severe mental issue is something that should be told to your spouse. Till this point I would say Saanjh was a friend. But her selfishness came to forefront when she decided to go get info from Ashwin. The man about whom Maya spoke in press conference. The man who has tortured the child and Maya had told it vividly in press conference. This was Saanjh's extreme reaction to somehow separate Arjun from Maya

Result : Arjun has given the world to Maya that he will trust her. Arjun knows Maya has insomnia, she has claustrophobia and is a maniac at times. So he is exposed to that vulnerable Maya. Maybe he doesnt know the medicines she takes. He also knows the effect of the mental torture Maya has gone through. So most probably this will end up in Arjun supporting Maya only. Or he might feel more empathetic towards her. This failure can make Saanjh all the more determined to find more about Maya and she might side with Ashwin for the same

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