trying to understand some things ...

Okay I was busy with another post , but this thought wouldn't leave me...

Can I just say , you don't know what you have until you loose it ... And arjun , I will do anything for a mother like V...

I have now come to a realisation as to why the family ( I see saanjh and arjun's family as one )

There are many ways to define AnS relationship , its not just best friends, these two take it a level up , its a very strong co-dependant relationship , symbiotic at its best and parasitic at its absolute worst which I think we will soon find out ... Or as AnS like to say ,


Two bodies one soul ... This term can be taken in what ever way you like , but remember , they both define what they have like this...

Their relationship would have never changed , unless an outside force came in and decided to either divide them or be part of them... But in the end its up to them to finally decide how much of soulmates they are...

The , problem I see is that most people , unlike me see it like this. "Saanjh is a girl inlove with arjun who just so happens to be his friend"

While I look at it as " saanjh is arjuns best friend who happens to be inlove with him " before this girl loved him she was/is his best friend ...

And many people take that away from them... But also remember. Their friendship does not run on the rules our friendship runs on ...

And up until now BOTH characters have never had a problem with their dynamic they still don't , but we can see , they need to come to an understanding , their dynamic can't work because two options they either end up together and this weird dynamic keeps up or they remain single forever 🤣 or as we see now they find someone else ...

The problem , is they don't have the tools , or the experience to deal with how to move forward... Its been them two for all their lives and where their partners are suppose to help them see that it can't always be like that maya's initial plan was to separate them completely and keep arjun to herself...


Do not take away her feelings to be hurt as a friend a best friend...


In relationships like this it becomes difficult when one person moves faster than the other and Arjun is not up for waiting while saanjh opens her eyes and see , change is coming good or bad and she can't change that...

Okay let me stop here this wasn't the point of this post ... If anyone is interested we can discuss that another time...

My point is , through saanjh and ayaan V , has more of a connection with her son ( arjun)

Ayaan is a connection , but saanjh as his soul mate have more of a let's say "influence" over him...

I feel she isn't only after saanjh for her love , but also for herself ( V) ayaan and saanjh are her life line to arjun and she isn't ready to loose that , hence her need to solidify , the saanjh arjun relationship , hence her need in supporting saanjh and even instigating her when saanjh is ready to give up ... Right now her dislike is nt really for maya but the possibilities of maya ...

Maya is an unknown , but with saanjh she knows this girl will always try her very best to make mother and son get along ...

Seriously this makes more sense in my head ... Am not sure if anyone is following my thought process...

So let me try again...

V believes or subconsciously ( since this is just a theory ) believes , saanjh is the best , ... Its not really about maya , I think she would have had that reaction to any other girl ... Find something she doesn't like... To justify her reasoning , and her reasoning is she can't find anyone better than saanjh that can influence arjun and ontop of that someone who in turn gives her as much of a connection or opening into her sons' life ...

And one last attempt if I confused you some more..

Okay let me just say - remember v and saanjh talking about how when she first got married arjun moved in with saanjh ... I remember he was six then and wouldn't go back home until SAANJH convinced him to go back home ...

And I think this event is the basis of V motivations ... Saanjh to her is not the girl who is her sons best friend but a lot more she's a life line ... And what the need of looking for another option (maya) when you have a proven and tested method ...


In everything that happened yesterday , the only side am on is ayaan , I felt what he said , at least after all these years , arjun should have grown up enough to realise that this woman , cared even a little for him and even if he didn't love her or like her he respected her and saw what she did for the family ...

And shouldn't have said those things...

Accepting and recognizing are two different things...

And because arjun doesn't value relationships as everyone says , he can't see that...

And the fact that the people who help him in this department , aren't talking to him now is not a bonus...


So did that make sense or did I talk y'all and myself. Into confusion...

Ps: the name is kelly , friends call me kells or kelz ... I more or less connect to everyone on this show ...

Saanjh yes

Maya yes

The families yes

But arjun , ?

Hi Kelz,

Your summary of Vandana is pretty much on point 😊

Marriages in India tend to be that of two families rather than two individuals and SaaJun obviously fulfill the first criteria.

Vandana's obviously seen that Saanjh and she are on the same plane, so as to speak, and Saanjh already enjoys a great rapport with her and Ayaan and tries to ensure that the family sticks together.

She could give an opportunity to Maya to see whether she's capable of doing the same, but when you have one person who manages things so well, why even bother to see if the other person can do so, especially since giving Maya that opportunity will possibly have to be at Saanjh's cost

Plus she's great friends with Suman- why venture into the unknown with Jhaanvi and mad Ashwin as her in-laws? 😆

Also, Vandana's two interactions with Maya haven't been the greatest (glass breaking and that dialogue "after two days, he'll be mine anyway)

Dear i feel same i have opined same in Different post in Different way .

Originally posted by: aekiel

Hi Kelz,


hey


Your summary of Vandana is pretty much on point 😊


thanks


Marriages in India tend to be that of two families rather than two individuals and SaaJun obviously fulfill the first criteria.


in my eyes with or without saajun being romantic they are already a family and a fall out won't only affect the two


Vandana's obviously seen that Saanjh and she are on the same plane, so as to speak, and Saanjh already enjoys a great rapport with her and Ayaan and tries to ensure that the family sticks together.


that's what it is , saanjh to V , is one of the people that help her in keeping , her relation with are boys as together as possible



She could give an opportunity to Maya to see whether she's capable of doing the same, but when you have one person who manages things so well, why even bother to see if the other person can do so, especially since giving Maya that opportunity will possibly have to be at Saanjh's cost


yes she could , but why should she when she has saanjh , just like why should everyone support saanjh when they already have maya... You can't say for arjun because he loves none... And its true , why hurt saanjh a person you consider a daughter or maya , a girl you aren't even sure you like ...


Plus she's great friends with Suman- why venture into the unknown with Jhaanvi and mad Ashwin as her in-laws? 😆


oh the best friend factor always complicates things ... And its more of a the family already knows and agrees , we just need to "initiate" one more person ... And most of all miscommunication


Also, Vandana's two interactions with Maya haven't been the greatest (glass breaking and that dialogue "after two days, he'll be mine anyway)



that's why they say first impression is the lasting impression ... Maya needs to proof that she isn't there to TAKE arjun away ... This is a mom who hardly has her son , and the girl makes such a comment , wrong move 😵...

Marriage is not only abt families but the partners too

Me too I can understand saanj, saanj family, maya maya family also but not Arjun now 😆
I have similar thoughts like your post...
saanj Arjun- when the show started the way Arjun lied on saanj lap on terrace and the way he blasted maya for hurting saanj in office made me to believe these two are beyond best friends... such extreme reactions can be only for the person whom we love or think as our own...these two are fevicol buddies and never allowed anyone in between them as a frn also until now for the past twenty years... they spend lots of time together and hanged out together and messages call through out the day, standing for each other until maya arrived into scene...these both created some good memories wehere these two only share not even ayan enters... now maya entered into their lives and Arjun to achieve his ambition and maya bcz of his boldness started spending more time where Arjun used to spend with saanj... I can relate with saanj as she one side knows maya is not what she is visible to others and started confronting him and he started lying her... saanj got more and more hurt the way Arjun is changing bcz this was not the Arjun before and now his priorities changed ... the memories which she shared with saanj are shared with maya.. saanj burst out for this and he feels irritated with that... why? Here I'm confused with answer as I'm confused with Arjun character


Vandana- seeing her past whatever you posted seemed apt and that's the reason she wants saanj Arjun...

Saanj family and maya family excluding ashwin want their repsective daughters to be with Arjun and they will try to reach that

Maya- I thought she will be unpredictable character but her character seemed some what clear than Arjun... we are seeing her acting sensible before Arjun... but is this real maya? No... she seems sensible from past few days as she didn't enter his life completely.. till how long she acts sensible.? This show seeing posters and promos is her behadness story... till now we have seen how she cuts of people who are getting close to Arjun and also who are either working under her or less powerful ( like police)... the two girls whom she saw flirting are terminated ... till now we have seen this but I really want to see how she reacts when third girl who is more intelligent powerful caring enters Arjun life and Arjun also enjoying her friendship... she can't do much to her legally or personally... does maya acts sensible here? Does she not confront Arjun just like saanj is doing now... she can't hide evrythng from Arjun and so peet peeche bcz at some point in life she has to deal with it ...I hope cvs show similar track bcz she needs to realise saanj pain...

Arjun- he is having good side but his actions seemed dumb and can't value relations... now maya is giving him all things which he needed and lets say some other girl like I mentioned above helps Arjun or his family legally (like how maya did for ayan) when it's out of maya power and the girl who may share Arjun maya memories and maya witnessing them... he will definitely be frz with this girl also as she may help him professionally personally evrythng just like how maya is doing now... as Arjun says he can be frz with anyone he will say samethn to maya that he can be frz with anyone not only her.. here she will realise saanj pain but is Arjun going to lie to maya also? Going to feel irritated with maya if she confronts him? I don't believe maya can handle evryone without knowing him... at one point if it's out of her hands she will confront him... so his relations change based on his ambitions? It's strange that Arjun jaan is ayan who is symbol of love of his father and vandana where as he hates vandana...

Originally posted by: muktha_cute

Marriage is not only abt families but the partners too

They cant force and get two individuals married even if they do it will end in Divorce

true , and no one is forcing anyone , they all belive arjun too shares , saanjh's feelings and I don't think if he said no , I don't feel the same and I won't marry her , anyone will drag him by force to the manhaap ...

Arjun doesnt love Sanjh that is the main thing here

no he doesn't but you see the main thing about my post , is to understand , V not figure out if arjun loves S or not ... Its not really about saanjh but , how V might be subconsciously using saanjh's love ... 😊

He doesnt even look her like a girl

actually he does , because she is a girl ... He doesn't have the feelings , needed to start a romantic relationship

Marriage cant run only on friendship

true , but it needs friendship and it can start on friendship ...

They are many other things needed in a relationship attraction,intimacy,trusy,understanding,love

and what SnA lack is attraction , which comes and goes or comes and stays or never comes 😉

Which i dont think arjun can ever look sanjh in that way

like I said , attraction comes and goes , so I don't plan to look far into this future

If Vandana wants a place in Arjuns heart she must work on iinstead of inviting a third person like sanjh or expecting a third persons help

she didn't "invite" a third person ... She sees saanjh as a means ... A life line , a connection ... This isn't a post to judge but to understand ... Just as she is looking for an alternative , which I think is not the best , same as saanjh , keeping quite and being so dependant on arjun is not the best , her jealousy is not the best , just as arjun not looking more than the eye can see is not the best , just like maya's manipulation is not the best , just like her getting abused is not the best , just like keeping. Jhanvi caged is not best , just like having a father like ashwin isn't best , but that's what life is , not always being the best ...

Ps: there is nothing wrong in looking for help ... Its just , I now see things from where V is sitting and maybe she herself does not realise the reason she is so attached to saanjh

What stopped her frm getting close to him all these years

I think from what I have seen , arjun keeps on putting up walls , she doesn't have the knowledge or understanding to break them, which is why ayaan and saanjh the best friend helps her if not to put down those walls but at least peak in through a hole

What did the third person did all these years when the third person wasnt able to do it or bring her close to her son in 20years how can she do it magically after marriage

like I said this said third persons plural , are a connection , a life line ... And I did not say that the purpose of the marriage ( come to thing of it I did not mention marriage but oh well ) is to bring arjun closer to her , that's ridiculous , V is in support of her life line being her son's partner ... That is a confirmation that if she(S) stays in her(V) life. ( The marriage thing can and can't happen )

Coming to Arjun when he was 6yrs old he lost his mom,he lost his dad to his step mom.ayan wasnt even born thn.so basically the child was alone without anyone to share his pain thn he might have started spending his tym with a girl of his age who is sanjh then later they might have became best friends.even if a boy was in that place arjun would have made friendship with him to avoid his loneliness.

I am lost are you arguing or telling me this...😕... I don't disagree , and never said he wasn't lonely or didn't loose a lot ...but for arjun to go to saanjh's house he had to have known her ... Don't you think

Sanjh has left him lonely when he needed her and Maya came to him when he didnt even expect her to do

yes she did...and yes maya came and no am not comparing the two... Or wondering about who was there ... Because saanjh has always been there ... And she can't be there always just like as we say arjun can't be there always for her ...

She basically did what sanjh wasnt able to do in 20yrs in few minutes

It was never saanjh's JOB ... My theory states V , values what saanjh and ayaan does in her life and subconsciously that drives some decisions ... Saanjh doesn't know this and am not sure V herself does...

Ps: obligations or competitions where the other parties aren't even aware they are taking part in.

Are always interesting...

Arjun is very much influenced by maya her words work on him more than vandana sanjh or ayans

You always meet that person that says something or do something , that will alter or change your perspective or life... Good or bad ... That doesn't cancel what others have done in your life before good or bad...

Interesting post. That is true. I never thought about it but for Vandana, Saanjh and Ayaan are her life lines to Arjun. I understand why she is holding onto Saanjh so strongly, but it still doesn't make it right. She is deceiving him, in a way they are all deceiving him. It is one thing to feel awww how cute Saanjh and Arjun should be together, it is another when you are actively trying to prevent him from getting close to another person. That is the stage where they are at now. She got mad at him and created a scene because he gifted something to Maya and not Saanjh. Under no circumstances is this okay, it is especially not okay because Arjun has never given her permission to have a say on his relationships.

Originally posted by: Africanqueenkel

Okay I was busy with another post , but this thought wouldn't leave me...

Can I just say , you don't know what you have until you loose it ... And arjun , I will do anything for a mother like V...

I have now come to a realisation as to why the family ( I see saanjh and arjun's family as one )

There are many ways to define AnS relationship , its not just best friends, these two take it a level up , its a very strong co-dependant relationship , symbiotic at its best and parasitic at its absolute worst which I think we will soon find out ... Or as AnS like to say ,


Two bodies one soul ... This term can be taken in what ever way you like , but remember , they both define what they have like this...

Their relationship would have never changed , unless an outside force came in and decided to either divide them or be part of them... But in the end its up to them to finally decide how much of soulmates they are...

The , problem I see is that most people , unlike me see it like this. "Saanjh is a girl inlove with arjun who just so happens to be his friend"

While I look at it as " saanjh is arjuns best friend who happens to be inlove with him " before this girl loved him she was/is his best friend ...

And many people take that away from them... But also remember. Their friendship does not run on the rules our friendship runs on ...

And up until now BOTH characters have never had a problem with their dynamic they still don't , but we can see , they need to come to an understanding , their dynamic can't work because two options they either end up together and this weird dynamic keeps up or they remain single forever 🤣 or as we see now they find someone else ...

The problem , is they don't have the tools , or the experience to deal with how to move forward... Its been them two for all their lives and where their partners are suppose to help them see that it can't always be like that maya's initial plan was to separate them completely and keep arjun to herself...


Do not take away her feelings to be hurt as a friend a best friend...


In relationships like this it becomes difficult when one person moves faster than the other and Arjun is not up for waiting while saanjh opens her eyes and see , change is coming good or bad and she can't change that...

Okay let me stop here this wasn't the point of this post ... If anyone is interested we can discuss that another time...

My point is , through saanjh and ayaan V , has more of a connection with her son ( arjun)

Ayaan is a connection , but saanjh as his soul mate have more of a let's say "influence" over him...

I feel she isn't only after saanjh for her love , but also for herself ( V) ayaan and saanjh are her life line to arjun and she isn't ready to loose that , hence her need to solidify , the saanjh arjun relationship , hence her need in supporting saanjh and even instigating her when saanjh is ready to give up ... Right now her dislike is nt really for maya but the possibilities of maya ...

Maya is an unknown , but with saanjh she knows this girl will always try her very best to make mother and son get along ...

Seriously this makes more sense in my head ... Am not sure if anyone is following my thought process...

So let me try again...

V believes or subconsciously ( since this is just a theory ) believes , saanjh is the best , ... Its not really about maya , I think she would have had that reaction to any other girl ... Find something she doesn't like... To justify her reasoning , and her reasoning is she can't find anyone better than saanjh that can influence arjun and ontop of that someone who in turn gives her as much of a connection or opening into her sons' life ...

And one last attempt if I confused you some more..

Okay let me just say - remember v and saanjh talking about how when she first got married arjun moved in with saanjh ... I remember he was six then and wouldn't go back home until SAANJH convinced him to go back home ...

And I think this event is the basis of V motivations ... Saanjh to her is not the girl who is her sons best friend but a lot more she's a life line ... And what the need of looking for another option (maya) when you have a proven and tested method ...


In everything that happened yesterday , the only side am on is ayaan , I felt what he said , at least after all these years , arjun should have grown up enough to realise that this woman , cared even a little for him and even if he didn't love her or like her he respected her and saw what she did for the family ...

And shouldn't have said those things...

Accepting and recognizing are two different things...

And because arjun doesn't value relationships as everyone says , he can't see that...

And the fact that the people who help him in this department , aren't talking to him now is not a bonus...


So did that make sense or did I talk y'all and myself. Into confusion...

Ps: the name is kelly , friends call me kells or kelz ... I more or less connect to everyone on this show ...

Saanjh yes

Maya yes

The families yes

But arjun , ?

Originally posted by: SaurabhKiRadha

Dear i feel same i have opined same in Different post in Different way .

Saanjh n arjun are symbiotic totally agree u know they will remain how mych they fight or even end up with different person in two corners of world . They have literally grown up as two body n soul . God knows when arjun will realise it .

Vandana pov is right but only problem they are not able to communicate with this to arjun . Tell him saanjh loves u wat u feel about her what is maya for u do u want to marry etc . The lack of communication is worsening the situation . That is why sometimes arjun's reaction makes sense.

they thing is they can't stay fighting for long , the next minute the one is calling the othere cause they need something and during the fight the get angry and be like its saanjh or its arjun to you ... Minutes later someone is needed and they are alll dusky and duffer and I sit there thinking that fight hasn't even had time to cool down...

V is right in her own way , but wrong in the approach. Very wrong ... And the miscommunication or no communication at all is the problem...

Arjun will realise when saanjh isn't there...