Ep 8: Log tumse dare ye chahti ho, ya tum logo se darti ho!

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On that note, shuru karte hai. Chocolate-vanilla land se bahar aa jao. Kal aur bhi baaki hai😉...Today, we got a glimpse of Maya Jaisingh's biggest weakness - her fear. And that is also the main highlight of tonight's episode - fear.

Rudra's fear - His fear is his loss of control to his father. He does not want even the shadow of his father to fall on his business or his life. That is because it is the only thing he can call his own. Probably his father took something way too precious from him - so the loss of control to his father is something he cannot let happen. The only way he can do that is through Maya. He is willing to lose to Maya, but not to his father.

Mrityunjay's fear - His fear too is his loss of control on his son - which he terms it as concern or love. He is trying tooth and nail to mend differences with Rudra, and Rudra does not want to. But he is Rudra's father. He will not give up, he will not lose this battle against his own son. So what he does -eliminate the reason itself - the writer. The writer is Maya Jaisingh - or so what she calls herself. The reason I believe that he does not recognize Maya are many. One, there are so many Mayas in the world, does not mean it is that Maya. Second, the way he destroys people and damages them, he does not think anyone will have the audacity to come for Round 2 with him. The way he destroyed Maya, he will not think even once that, such a weakling of a woman will come to do - do-do haath. And thirdly, he has a God complex, where he plays the God to women here - have you seen his household - Antara is mentally weak, Diya is we still don't know what and his mother, her saying anything does not matter. Jo banda auraton ko aise dabaa ke rakhta ho, wo kisi aurat ko apna equal samajh hi nahi sakta - not even an opponent. And with Ananya, he is being nice because she is his passage to Rudra - if by any chance she becomes 'bahu', do you think he will be the daddy cool, he shows himself to be? I think not.

Rishi's fear - I will not term it as fear, but definitely he is somewhere fearful, agar Maya haath se nikal gayi to. He does not like to be ridiculed or made fun of before the women of his family because of Maya. He does not like taking ignored very lightly either. And, what I hate the most is, he doesn't understand boundaries. What are those women in the family doing? Nothing. They have unsuccessfully taught him nothing. His grandmother tried though, Ladki jab na kahe to uska matlab na hi hota hai. But alas, sense did not prevail, because no one, not even Mrityunjay bothers to pay heed to his mother.

Maya's fear - The most talked about highlight of this episode. Honestly, achcha laga. Achcha laga ye jankar, that wo puri tarah se ice nahi hui hai, ab bhi hai usme wo saare emotions, jo insaan ke hote hai. And it is important to show these instances. You can do all the planning and plotting of the world, but you cannot always get your way. Kabhi kabhi, nature also comes in the way of your plans - even if they are not revenge plans - all you can do is adapt as quickly as possible. Maya fears people and exposure because she was torn apart by these very people. Nakedly exposed in the worst light possible, to be tormented, humiliated and shamed. They forced her to retreat into the shadows, and now these very shadows are her strength because she fears the light, she fears positivity, she fears goodness. This is because she feels that all these things will make her weak and vulnerable like the last time. But, that is what her Krishna is trying to teach her. If she wants to fight the battle of justice, she has to come out in the light, in the open, among people. She can no longer avoid the light and embrace the darkness. She has to adapt to light, just like she embraced the darkness. What did Maya think? Her fight for justice will be so easy. No battle is easy. She will win some, she will lose some. But ye to Krishna ka prasad hai na Maya? Tumhe to wohi accept karna padega. Every battle is a lesson for Maya as well. Which her Krishna will teach her.

Mrityunjay's fear is like purane pyaar ki tees which has converted into fear. She can sense his presence. So you can imagine, what hell he must have given her at one point in time. Going by what Maya told Rishi, she wants someone, jo usko dil me chupaaye, aur logo ki nazron se dur rakhe. That was the Maya within her talking. The last time, the one she expected it from gave her the opposite. But this time is different. Why? Because this time she has Rudra. One, Rudra understands what equality is, he can out-sass her sometimes, but he will not treat her like shit. Two, Rudra understands pain and fear, which is why he can understand her psychology, he can ease her when it's needed. And Three, he can guard her against Mrityunjay. Probably bolster her courage to face him. Maya may be teaching a lot of things to Rudra, but Rudra will also teach her a thing or two of fighting - especially internal battles. Both can be each other's strength because both of them know how it feels to be weak, and both do not like it. Also, I felt that Maya is just Maya with Rudra - no mystery, no chuimui, no damsel-in-distress - she is just broken and battered Maya - which is putting up a strong front. That is what will mostly draw Rudra towards her.

Coming to Ananya and Rudra's friendship. I am sure, it will not be anything like S1. If Ananya influences Rudra in any way that hinders Maya's cause, then Maya will react - keyword here being waqt aane par. Ananya cannot really stop Rudra from falling for Maya, because love is something which isn't forced. But Ananya can definitely stop Rudra from falling into her trap, which Maya cannot afford to happen. But I am sure, Ananya is not very clingy, when she will deem necessary, she will back off. And I am really rooting on Rudra and Ananya, to pull Maya out of the shadows and help her in this fight.

On a lighter note, Rudra ko bas flirt karni hai Maya se, like ab kya shart hai...shaadi karni hai. Did she say anything like that, What is into him? Tujhe shaadi karni hai kya?😉

Enough of my rambling, ab tum log apne thoughts batao😊

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Good post. Yes fear makes her more human. But I don't think confidentiality agreement was for that purpose. See Maya has changed her name for revenge, at least that's what I think. But chehra toh wahi hai! If MJ sees her, plan over, if rishi sees her, plan over. All that she can do is hide her face, her individuality and just show her name which she has acquired only for revenge. She isn't scared of the world, she is scared of MJ and only MJ.

Makes me reminense of Ashwin, it's just that MJ Is actually in power. I wonder what Rudra will feel now. As you said even I have noticed, Rudra keeps on flirting. That night when she came to fence, he said dur Nahi Raha jata kya, now shadi Karni hai kya 🤣Abhi tak hunterwali ko Dekh Kar itna pyar aaa Raha hai toh Cinderella waala Dekh ke toh pighal hi jaayega ☺️

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Originally posted by: manya_roy

Good post. Yes fear makes her more human. But I don't think confidentiality agreement was for that purpose. See Maya has changed her name for revenge, at least that's what I think. But chehra toh wahi hai! If MJ sees her, plan over, if rishi sees her, plan over. All that she can do is hide her face, her individuality and just show her name which she has acquired only for revenge. She isn't scared of the world, she is scared of MJ and only MJ.

Yes, fear does make her more human. But I think its not just Mrityunjay. It is also people. She likes to be alone. She does not want people around her.

Makes me reminense of Ashwin, it's just that MJ Is actually in power. I wonder what Rudra will feel now. As you said even I have noticed, Rudra keeps on flirting. That night when she came to fence, he said dur Nahi Raha jata kya, now shadi Karni hai kya 🤣Abhi tak hunterwali ko Dekh Kar itna pyar aaa Raha hai toh Cinderella waala Dekh ke toh pighal hi jaayega ☺️

Yes, that is true. But Ashwin abused her as a child. And she got the strength to face him because of Arjun. But Mrityunjay abused her as an adult. And probably Rudra will be the strength which she will need to face him as well.

Edited by libran90 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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First of all let me say that Rudra and Maya chemistry is something else.. something to watch out for really.. I had some thoughts before the show on how shivin and jen might be if romantically paired.. but then these two r just superb.👏.. not only that their characters r beautifully etched but these two are surpassing our expectations by the day..


Coming to Rishi.. I am wondering what is maya playing with him.. anyways what I see is atleast for the audience that in pursuit of making rishi fall for her and every of her words to rishi comes true with Rudra.. or even stuff that she doesnt like whether it is a hand hold or even a hug.. in the promo rishi hugs her and she feels awkward..but in her subconscious self she reached out to rudra to hug him...unknowingly she has started to find solace in Rudra..

Even when they fell down.. It was maya who was lost in him for those few moments and not Rudra..


Rishi is acting like MJ I felt.. he keeps calling and messaging her.. he wants control of Maya which he is not getting.. Its an inherited trait for him.. the more she moves him away.. more of this trait will grow in him.. he is young and sweet and soon those will change is what I feel..


I think what will happen today will change a lot of things.. Rudra has only seen the strict and dark side of Maya and today seeing her vulnerability he might start getting drawn to her mystery.. remember Rudra always asks the right questions.. he even asked her is she hiding because she has some revenge drama...


I have a feeling Ananya might become close to Maya.. why do we always need to see stereotypical relationships.. is was like that in the first season.. but Ananya is another beautiful character.. she is very stable and strong like rudra.. at any given situation she knows to decide what is the right thing to do.. I feel she might become the strength for maya and rudra relationship.. Ananya was the one who asked Rudra to get Maya for the company and he did it.. Yest she was the one who told him to stop being a jerk and rude to Maya.. And most importantly she has read all of her books..Maya has written a lot of her life in her books itself which will come to use someday to know her I am sure..


Ok 24 hours to episode and its weekend in Dubai.. gosh I need to choose between going out on weekend and missing the epi 😆..

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Res. I'll comment on this soon.

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Originally posted by: NamuVyas

First of all let me say that Rudra and Maya chemistry is something else.. something to watch out for really.. I had some thoughts before the show on how shivin and jen might be if romantically paired.. but then these two r just superb.👏.. not only that their characters r beautifully etched but these two are surpassing our expectations by the day..

Oh Ho Namrata...tum aa gayi waapas apne chocolate-vanilla land se😆. Anyway, unka chemistry spot on hai. Rudra and Maya don't realize, but they are very comfortable with each other in certain ways. For Maya, feeling anything for a Roy is like a taboo for her. But, Rudra is one Roy who is unlike the other Roys. Mrityunjay and Rishi, are predictable and known to Maya, Rudra does not think or function as the other Roys, so he does manage to affect Maya, unlike Rishi.

Coming to Rishi.. I am wondering what is maya playing with him.. anyways what I see is atleast for the audience that in pursuit of making rishi fall for her and every of her words to rishi comes true with Rudra.. or even stuff that she doesnt like whether it is a hand hold or even a hug.. in the promo rishi hugs her and she feels awkward..but in her subconscious self she reached out to rudra to hug him...unknowingly she has started to find solace in Rudra..

Yup, I have noticed that too.

Even when they fell down.. It was maya who was lost in him for those few moments and not Rudra..

Yes, she was half-expecting that to happen, and then I felt that those words that followed after, was for the person who hurt her, not for Rudra...and Rudra is like WTF?

Rishi is acting like MJ I felt.. he keeps calling and messaging her.. he wants control of Maya which he is not getting.. Its an inherited trait for him.. the more she moves him away.. more of this trait will grow in him.. he is young and sweet and soon those will change is what I feel..

Rishi is a big-time desperate player. I don't know why they treat him like a kid. He is not. Teach him to be a proper man. If women don't teach boys how to treat girls, then how will the man treat the woman right. I don't get it

I think what will happen today will change a lot of things.. Rudra has only seen the strict and dark side of Maya and today seeing her vulnerability he might start getting drawn to her mystery.. remember Rudra always asks the right questions.. he even asked her is she hiding because she has some revenge drama...

Yes true, Rudra will see that side of Maya, which she genuinely is. Someone, who is struggling so hard to make sense of the mess her life has become, who is trying to fight for her truth, her justice which has been denied to her. She has mustered all the courage she has within her to stand up to Mrityunjay, but it isn't easy always you know. Sometimes, we cannot handle it as well we thought we could. That is the time when we need someone to hold us and ease us and tell us - that its okay to be weak and vulnerable because I am there for you. Her mom is not capable of understanding the depth of her pain. But Rudra can. And he arrives at the right moment, at the right time to ease her. And the innocent Maya that came out that moment is what she is and she grasped something that will take away the pain and Maya grabbed him, and he was there to ease her.

I have a feeling Ananya might become close to Maya.. why do we always need to see stereotypical relationships.. is was like that in the first season.. but Ananya is another beautiful character.. she is very stable and strong like rudra.. at any given situation she knows to decide what is the right thing to do.. I feel she might become the strength for maya and rudra relationship.. Ananya was the one who asked Rudra to get Maya for the company and he did it.. Yest she was the one who told him to stop being a jerk and rude to Maya.. And most importantly she has read all of her books..Maya has written a lot of her life in her books itself which will come to use someday to know her I am sure..

ITV has always let us down when it comes to two girls vying for one man. But Ananya has the capacity to do what you mentioned. I really hope they do this. Or maybe they already are, and we don't know. I mean Maya was a simple family ki simple ladki. How the hell did she become the Maya Jaisingh? She must have had a lot of support. Who are these support systems who have made her what she is today?

Ok 24 hours to episode and its weekend in Dubai.. gosh I need to choose between going out on weekend and missing the epi 😆..

Koi na, weekend enjoy karlo. Episode kahin bhaag ke nahi ja raha.

Edited by libran90 - 5 years ago
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Chocolate-vanilla land se bahar aa jao.

Nahiiiiin 😆


I completely agree with you on everything.

About Ananya, I think they’ve thrown in the predictable foreshadowing scenes like “humare beech mein Maya aagayi” and though Maya has sworn to break them apart, I hope, for a change, they wouldn’t go down that route. But Ananya calms Rudra down and is his sane voice. She’s his strength and Maya wants to be the ONLY one who Rudra relies on. So her breaking them apart seems inevitable.


Rudra ko bas flirt karni hai Maya se.

Yaar woh usko chocolate-vanilla pukarta hai!! *insert that “Get someone who would be that endearing” meme*

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Originally posted by: Gurmeet4Drashti

Chocolate-vanilla land se bahar aa jao.

Nahiiiiin 😆


I completely agree with you on everything.

About Ananya, I think they’ve thrown in the predictable foreshadowing scenes like “humare beech mein Maya aagayi” and though Maya has sworn to break them apart, I hope, for a change, they wouldn’t go down that route. But Ananya calms Rudra down and is his sane voice. She’s his strength and Maya wants to be the ONLY one who Rudra relies on. So her breaking them apart seems inevitable.


Rudra ko bas flirt karni hai Maya se.

Yaar woh usko chocolate-vanilla pukarta hai!! *insert that “Get someone who would be that endearing” meme*

Accha thik hai mat aao, chocolate pool me dubkiyan lagaon.

I don't know, but I had this sudden epiphany like what if the story of Ananya and Maya is like the girls in Hate Story 4. They all gang up together to take down the brothers. Ananya has always been in Rudra's life which is an advantage for Maya. What if Maya knows Ananya from before? What if Ananya was Manas' (Maya's brother) girlfriend? When it is a thriller, the story opens ups to so many possibilities. For a change, it would be fun to watch. Mazaa aa jayega agar aise hua to

Uff...tum log to mujhe ab chocolate me duba hi do...

Edited by libran90 - 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Accha thik hai mat aao, chocolate pool me dubkiyan lagaon.

I don't know, but I had this sudden epiphany like what if the story of Ananya and Maya is like the girls in Hate Story 4. They all gang up together to take down the brothers. Ananya has always been in Rudra's life which is an advantage for Maya. What if Maya knows Ananya from before? What if Ananya was Manas' (Maya's brother) girlfriend? When it is a thriller, the story opens ups to so many possibilities. For a change, it would be fun to watch. Mazaa aa jayega agar aise hua to

Uff...tum log to mujhe ab chocolate me duba hi do...


Uhm... I haven’t watched Hate Story but if that’s the gist of the story and the makers decide to explore something like that, then it’ll be super interesting.

But to be honest, the whole “I love you” and her loyalty towards Rudra seems to have no ulterior motives to me, she is very clearheaded and patient with him.

Then there’s my eternal wariness towards ITV, would the makers actually go down that real thriller route? Or just stick to the typical storyline??


Ab hum kya karein? Chocolate beckons and we have no other choice but indulge in the delicacy ☺️

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Amazing post. Loved reading it. Showing the vulnerable side of Maya was important coz it helps to perceive her as a human and empathize with her, back her in this battle.

It also shows how deeply broken she is and (keeping aside my shipping goggles), shows just how much Rudra will have to make efforts to save Maya from the darkness and heal her.

Yesterday their back and forth was amazing. There was flirting, there was counter statements, and there was finally an agreement. It shows that communication will be a key in MayRa relationship. Maya, as u said, is the most herself with Rudra.

MJ is such a complex character. He is not just an antagonist, he is a force, one that Maya can't predict, nor control. She will need Rudras support and it will be fun to watch.

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