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Posted: 5 years ago
#91

It's not going to be that easy to get Maya

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Posted: 5 years ago
#92

Dec 9th - The Painful Trust

The empty trunk - Notice how the trunk only had the rope and the fencing sword in it. As she progresses through her plan, she will fill that trunk with spoils of the war. The problem is that right now this war is one-sided. Only she's fighting it. Her enemy is still trying to get his bearings. Thus, while the trunk may be filling up right now, it'll empty as well. The empty trunk is also significant because in a way it signifies Maya's life right now. It's empty. Void. As she gets her revenge, her life will also start to get "filled". Notice one more thing. The trunk is two-thirds Rudra, one-third Rishi. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but in a way that signifies that Maya's life will be filled by both Rudra and Rishi, not just one. Rudra will have a stronger impact, but Rishi will also be there. I wonder if MJ will have the strongest impact though?

Fencing as an outlet - We can say all we want that Rudra wasn't affected by the fish selling, but in a way he was. He was affected because despite winning to Maya, he still lost. He had thought that making more money than Maya had expected would have shown her down, but it didn't. Instead, she turned the tables back on him instead. Then he tried to use fencing as an outlet to take out his anger and lost there as well. Fencing will be interesting going forward because it is all about duels and self-defense. Unlike regular sword-fighting which is all about attacking, fencing used to take place when it was about dueling against someone for personal harm or attacks on pride or for defending oneself against some type of accusation. In a way, that's what is happening here. Maya is repeatedly challenging Rudra to a duel to get through to MJ and he is fighting in self-defense. It's symbolic because with either the fencing match could be seen as the foreshadowing for the next task or as a follow-up to the previous task. In either case, if Maya wins the task, she wins the fencing match.

MJ's indirect plan - Why not just follow Rudra directly? But then again this might be MJ's way of gearing up for attack. In war, there is always strategy and strategy is done quietly, privately, indirectly. If MJ was to have Rudra followed directly, instead of via a tracker, Maya would know right away that her enemy is gearing up to fight back. In this way, Maya will never know when MJ will attack. (Of course that's what MJ thinks because Maya knew about the tracker and her hidden man destroyed the tracker and sent Aamir on a wild goose chase. But more on this later. Let's keep talking from MJ's perspective.) MJ is gathering intelligence, developing theories, testing those theories, and then, once he has enough information, he will strategize and attack back. I do have a complaint that MJ is not seen enough, but this may just be the calm before the storm. The CVs are deliberately holding MJ back to unleash him at the right time. Let the audience feel this is a one-sided battle and then they'll bring out the full force of MJ.

The test of trust and the painful trust - Credit to Shruthi for the title, but I added a bit of my own to it because it is an important aspect. But first let's talk about the test itself. Maya said "reach the top". She never said take the stairs to the top. Yet Rudra's first move was to run for the stairs. In a way, it's about behaviour ingrained in us from childhood. We're always taught about the ladder to success, never about a lift to success. I bet MJ consistently reminded Rudra and Rishi since they were little kids that he got to the top by climbing many "stairs", not by taking the "elevator/lift". This is an important distinction and one that Maya points out succinctly. We listen, but we don't actually listen. If Rudra had listened properly, he would have understood that all Maya said was to get to the top. But the problem isn't in not listening, it's also in our brains. Our brains run almost twice as fast as the words that can come out of our mouths. Thus, our brains are already filling in the words before we even hear them and also coming up with a solution before we even process the words. That's exactly what Rudra did. Nonetheless, Rudra also proved himself worthy. Despite having to take the long way up, Rudra still beat Maya. But once again, Maya made his win into a loss with her fake fall.

Now let's move onto this fake fall and Rudra's response. Despite hating Maya, Rudra's first instinct was to run out to save Maya and grab onto her. But in the process, he triggered her painful memories. This is where the painful trust part comes in. While Rudra proved himself worthy of trust today, it was painful for Maya and it will be going forward because Maya still has to move on from her past. In a way though, Rudra did more than prove himself trustworthy. The way he held onto her, promised that "tumhe kuch nahi hoga", and then held (ever so briefly) when he finally did pull her up, shows that he will be there every step of the way to help Maya move on. Her past will be painful and the trust she will place in Rudra will pain her, but it will also help her to move on, to build herself again, and to forget whatever happened to her in the past.

Main jeeon ya maaron, haaron yah jeeton, what the hell do you want - For me the dialogue of the day. Rudra is starting to question everything Maya does. In the process, he's also discovering himself. Maya said she wouldn't have let him or herself die, but that's not enough for Rudra. He knows this isn't a simple test just to see if he's worth working with. This is deeper than that. And he wants his answers. But more than that, he's being drawn towards Maya as well in a web that is intricately being closed around him. With the fish selling, for Rudra it was just a simple test. Probably to see if Rudra can even sell Maya's books. But this. This test was different. What does life and death have to do with publications? Nothing. Trust does, but who tests trust like this? No. This is important to Rudra to understand. Maya has become an enigma for him. And though he says he hates her, he's also being drawn towards her.

The discarded flowers - Those flowers are just like Rishi's "love". As long as everything was beautiful and lovely, the flowers were in his hands and ready to be Maya's. But the moment, it came on Rishi's own life, they became worthless and discarded. In fact, as long as they were in his hands or with him, Maya was on Rishi's mind. The moment he discarded them, he could only think about himself. That's what you expect from someone who is infatuated with another. Love is what Rudra did. Putting his own life at risk to save his love (of course, Maya isn't his love in this case, but you get the point). As the story progresses, this will be important because Rudra will be the type to step up and support Maya, while Rishi will hide to save his hide.

Precap - Not any specific comment, but curious. Maya hides her discomfort when Rishi touches her (again). And, on the other hand, we get the fight sequence from the promos.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: Minionite

Dec 9th - The Painful Trust

The empty trunk - Notice how the trunk only had the rope and the fencing sword in it. As she progresses through her plan, she will fill that trunk with spoils of the war. The problem is that right now this war is one-sided. Only she's fighting it. Her enemy is still trying to get his bearings. Thus, while the trunk may be filling up right now, it'll empty as well. The empty trunk is also significant because in a way it signifies Maya's life right now. It's empty. Void. As she gets her revenge, her life will also start to get "filled". Notice one more thing. The trunk is two-thirds Rudra, one-third Rishi. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but in a way that signifies that Maya's life will be filled by both Rudra and Rishi, not just one. Rudra will have a stronger impact, but Rishi will also be there. I wonder if MJ will have the strongest impact though?

Fencing as an outlet - We can say all we want that Rudra wasn't affected by the fish selling, but in a way he was. He was affected because despite winning to Maya, he still lost. He had thought that making more money than Maya had expected would have shown her down, but it didn't. Instead, she turned the tables back on him instead. Then he tried to use fencing as an outlet to take out his anger and lost there as well. Fencing will be interesting going forward because it is all about duels and self-defense. Unlike regular sword-fighting which is all about attacking, fencing used to take place when it was about dueling against someone for personal harm or attacks on pride or for defending oneself against some type of accusation. In a way, that's what is happening here. Maya is repeatedly challenging Rudra to a duel to get through to MJ and he is fighting in self-defense. It's symbolic because with either the fencing match could be seen as the foreshadowing for the next task or as a follow-up to the previous task. In either case, if Maya wins the task, she wins the fencing match.

MJ's indirect plan - Why not just follow Rudra directly? But then again this might be MJ's way of gearing up for attack. In war, there is always strategy and strategy is done quietly, privately, indirectly. If MJ was to have Rudra followed directly, instead of via a tracker, Maya would know right away that her enemy is gearing up to fight back. In this way, Maya will never know when MJ will attack. (Of course that's what MJ thinks because Maya knew about the tracker and her hidden man destroyed the tracker and sent Aamir on a wild goose chase. But more on this later. Let's keep talking from MJ's perspective.) MJ is gathering intelligence, developing theories, testing those theories, and then, once he has enough information, he will strategize and attack back. I do have a complaint that MJ is not seen enough, but this may just be the calm before the storm. The CVs are deliberately holding MJ back to unleash him at the right time. Let the audience feel this is a one-sided battle and then they'll bring out the full force of MJ.

The test of trust and the painful trust - Credit to Shruthi for the title, but I added a bit of my own to it because it is an important aspect. But first let's talk about the test itself. Maya said "reach the top". She never said take the stairs to the top. Yet Rudra's first move was to run for the stairs. In a way, it's about behaviour ingrained in us from childhood. We're always taught about the ladder to success, never about a lift to success. I bet MJ consistently reminded Rudra and Rishi since they were little kids that he got to the top by climbing many "stairs", not by taking the "elevator/lift". This is an important distinction and one that Maya points out succinctly. We listen, but we don't actually listen. If Rudra had listened properly, he would have understood that all Maya said was to get to the top. But the problem isn't in not listening, it's also in our brains. Our brains run almost twice as fast as the words that can come out of our mouths. Thus, our brains are already filling in the words before we even hear them and also coming up with a solution before we even process the words. That's exactly what Rudra did. Nonetheless, Rudra also proved himself worthy. Despite having to take the long way up, Rudra still beat Maya. But once again, Maya made his win into a loss with her fake fall.

Now let's move onto this fake fall and Rudra's response. Despite hating Maya, Rudra's first instinct was to run out to save Maya and grab onto her. But in the process, he triggered her painful memories. This is where the painful trust part comes in. While Rudra proved himself worthy of trust today, it was painful for Maya and it will be going forward because Maya still has to move on from her past. In a way though, Rudra did more than prove himself trustworthy. The way he held onto her, promised that "tumhe kuch nahi hoga", and then held (ever so briefly) when he finally did pull her up, shows that he will be there every step of the way to help Maya move on. Her past will be painful and the trust she will place in Rudra will pain her, but it will also help her to move on, to build herself again, and to forget whatever happened to her in the past.

Main jeeon ya maaron, haaron yah jeeton, what the hell do you want - For me the dialogue of the day. Rudra is starting to question everything Maya does. In the process, he's also discovering himself. Maya said she wouldn't have let him or herself die, but that's not enough for Rudra. He knows this isn't a simple test just to see if he's worth working with. This is deeper than that. And he wants his answers. But more than that, he's being drawn towards Maya as well in a web that is intricately being closed around him. With the fish selling, for Rudra it was just a simple test. Probably to see if Rudra can even sell Maya's books. But this. This test was different. What does life and death have to do with publications? Nothing. Trust does, but who tests trust like this? No. This is important to Rudra to understand. Maya has become an enigma for him. And though he says he hates her, he's also being drawn towards her.

The discarded flowers - Those flowers are just like Rishi's "love". As long as everything was beautiful and lovely, the flowers were in his hands and ready to be Maya's. But the moment, it came on Rishi's own life, they became worthless and discarded. In fact, as long as they were in his hands or with him, Maya was on Rishi's mind. The moment he discarded them, he could only think about himself. That's what you expect from someone who is infatuated with another. Love is what Rudra did. Putting his own life at risk to save his love (of course, Maya isn't his love in this case, but you get the point). As the story progresses, this will be important because Rudra will be the type to step up and support Maya, while Rishi will hide to save his hide.

Precap - Not any specific comment, but curious. Maya hides her discomfort when Rishi touches her (again). And, on the other hand, we get the fight sequence from the promos.

on some level Maya believe and likes Rudra but she absolutely has no value for rishi except her motivation for revenge
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Posted: 5 years ago
#94

Great analysis as always. 👍🏼Today I really felt Rudra was starting to feel a pull towards Maya and I am sure its going to get stronger over the next few weeks. In a way I feel Maya doesn't want to actually kill Rudra, coz since past two days she is merely challenging him to show him his own abilities. Possibly reinforcing to him what he knows that he does not need MJ to succeed.

Maya is simply terrific. She has everything planned out. Kinda happy that Rudra is proving to be a trustworthy man.

Also, I loved Rudra messing with Maya too- deal to 3 din sath bitane ki hui thi, tum to raton pe haq jatane aa gai. Kya hua, dur nahi raha ja raha

Edited by Armu4eva - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

Great analysis as always. 👍🏼Today I really felt Rudra was starting to feel a pull towards Maya and I am sure its going to get stronger over the next few weeks. In a way I feel Maya doesn't want to actually kill Rudra, coz since past two days she is merely challenging him to show him his own abilities. Possibly reinforcing to him what he knows that he does not need MJ to succeed.

Maya is simply terrific. She has everything planned out. Kinda happy that Rudra is proving to be a trustworthy man.

Also, I loved Rudra messing with Maya too- deal to 3 din sath bitane ki hui thi, tum to raton pe haq jatane aa gai. Kya hua, dur nahi raha ja raha


I don't think Maya wants to kill Rudra either. With Rudra it's about drawing him farther and farther away from MJ and hurting MJ. Rishi, on the other hand, is like 100% like to die in Maya's plan. At least that's what I feel.

It's like Maya said in the end. A human being has two options in the face of danger: (1) save themselves, or (2) save their humanity. Rishi chose the first and, in a way, wrote his own death warrant. Maya doesn't care for a person who only cares for themselves. Rudra chose the second and, to some extent, won Maya's intrigue. Rudra is more deep and intriguing than Rishi and that's what will keep him on Maya's radar.

Ugh I already have one Rudra fangirl in the form of Nida around here. Now you too?🤔 How about you both challenge each other to a fencing match. The winner keeps Rudra and the other stops fangirling. 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
#96

I LOVED your symbolism. I understood most of it. The 2/3 Rudra part I had to read twice.😆

I binge watched the episodes today, so idk if you mentioned. Friday's episode when Maya was explaining about fishing/preying to Rudra, she held on to the fishing net/mesh, did you notice that her dress had a similar pattern? Almost as if she represented the net in which Rudra would get trapped or rather is getting trapped.

Rishi rather disappointed me today, though that's a part of his characterisation I guess. He's young and quite charming, but doesn't have depth.

Btw, isn't 9 in the morning a little late for jogging near the beach? 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Minionite


I don't think Maya wants to kill Rudra either. With Rudra it's about drawing him farther and farther away from MJ and hurting MJ. Rishi, on the other hand, is like 100% like to die in Maya's plan. At least that's what I feel.

It's like Maya said in the end. A human being has two options in the face of danger: (1) save themselves, or (2) save their humanity. Rishi chose the first and, in a way, wrote his own death warrant. Maya doesn't care for a person who only cares for themselves. Rudra chose the second and, to some extent, won Maya's intrigue. Rudra is more deep and intriguing than Rishi and that's what will keep him on Maya's radar.

Ugh I already have one Rudra fangirl in the form of Nida around here. Now you too?🤔 How about you both challenge each other to a fencing match. The winner keeps Rudra and the other stops fangirling. 😆

Excuse me!! Don’t be a Maya here and nip our budding progress 😆 We’re already in the minority here. So instead of challenging each other, we both should rather huddle and fangirl together no?

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Posted: 5 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: najma123

I LOVED your symbolism. I understood most of it. The 2/3 Rudra part I had to read twice.😆

I binge watched the episodes today, so idk if you mentioned. Friday's episode when Maya was explaining about fishing/preying to Rudra, she held on to the fishing net/mesh, did you notice that her dress had a similar pattern? Almost as if she represented the net in which Rudra would get trapped or rather is getting trapped.

Rishi rather disappointed me today, though that's a part of his characterisation I guess. He's young and quite charming, but doesn't have depth.

Btw, isn't 9 in the morning a little late for jogging near the beach? 😆


@ Bold: Good point. She is the net in which Rudra will get trapped. Many things have pointed to that. His hatred for her yet being drawn to her. His refusal to do challenges yet completing them successfully. His hatred for her yet humanity drew him to save her. Etc.


@ Red: Rishi is turning out to be more and more like the spoilt, rich brat that he would be. Childish, ego, selfish, charming, and playboy. Stereotypical. I wish that the CVs would have thought up something a little less stereotypical though. Like Rudra. He isn't stereotypical. Like MJ. He isn't stereotypical...at least based on the little we've seen of him.


@ Blue: No idea. Anyone in India can shed more light on this? I know here in Toronto, people jog along the lakeshore at all times of the day. Often in the evening. Depends on the timings they work, I guess.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: Gurmeet4Drashti

Excuse me!! Don’t be a Maya here and nip our budding progress 😆 We’re already in the minority here. So instead of challenging each other, we both should rather huddle and fangirl together no?


Oh I'm not going to nip your progress. I was just thinking of a nice simple fencing match. Rudra can be the referee and the winner takes him home. How's that? 😛


Hmm interesting though. Did you see your name or just feel that you were being mentioned? Maybe something for Maya to think about. 🤔

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Minionite


Oh I'm not going to nip your progress. I was just thinking of a nice simple fencing match. Rudra can be the referee and the winner takes him home. How's that? 😛


Hmm interesting though. Did you see your name or just feel that you were being mentioned? Maybe something for Maya to think about. 🤔


Ahem.. no. I’m going to be a lady here and exercise some restraint. Propriety and all? ☺️

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