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Posted: 7 years ago
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@esha yes Zoya had truly loved Yash. Yes Yash never tried to understand her.
@happy we will have to see how it goes.

@sonia if the child is Adi's then 🤢. This was what I had put in an earlier post also. The diary tells Adi was not satisfying her romantic needs. So let us say she fell out of love with him and started romancing Yash. But if she is carrying Adi's baby means, she was romancing Yash and at the same time sleeping with Adi. What a mess. What did she wanted for God's sake. If she loved Yash, she can go fine. But how can she decide for Adhi's kid without letting him know. How can she abort his baby or how can she allow Yash to give baby his name hiding the truth from Adi. Adi has a right on the baby. And if Sakshi Mata knew this, how in the world she also hid this from Adi. How can both mother and daughter deny Adi the right on his child.

@vintage sorry dear I am not aware of any such thread.

@priyyam thank you. yes if we understand our epics all the knowledge is there not just to see the difference of Ram and Ravan but also to recognize Ravan who has the mask of Ram.😃

@Soverign Zoya sacrificied her family for being with Yash and Pooja was willing to sacrifice Adi for Yash. The question is was this man worthy of such a thing. He was borrowing left, right, centre, didnt had a steady career. Never tried to build a proper family life with his wife. Only knew some words and had charms to woo the woman. But yes both the ladies wanted Yash.

@Hend dear Hend though I dont want to delve into religious aspect in deeper sense, if your religion has taught the woman has the right to correct the husband if he goes wrong, the women in your community need not have to knock at the door of Supreme Court to get justice for being the victims of Triple talaq. Yes I know as per your religion there are certain guidelines given for doing talaq. I have listened to those debates where many knowledgeable people from your community were speaking on how it should be done the right way. But there was another section who vociferously argued for instant talaq even through whatsapp as valid and woman is on the streets with kids.
In Hinduism also there are clear guidelines given for the duties of husband and wife. Infact our epic Ramayana shows the way to live the life right way as Narayan himself came with his consort Mahalakshmi and lived the life of the normal human being going through all trials and tribulations. It is not some words that are written for us on how to lead a good life, but in fact our God has shown us how to live with his life. It is not preaching, it is in action. And that knowledge of living a good life is given to Arjuna by Sri Krishna during Mahabharatha war which we call Bhagavad Gita. That book is life. Secondly in Hinduism woman are not asked to follow husband alone, but husband also has to follow his wife. The saptapadi or seven rounds husbands walks in front for four rounds and wife walks in front for three rounds. It is she who completes the marriage. The right to put the garland is given to the lady first in our religion.

But unfortunately just like the feud of triple talaq these noble things are hidden and wherever men get right to assert themselves get highlighted. I only mentioned that in my post.

Secondly u said if your husband is wrong you have to correct. How do you know he is wrong. Our epics Ramayana and Mahabharatha gives guideline here also with the leading ladies of both epics standing up for themselves. Sita in rejecting Rama and doing bhoomipravesh and Panchali by questioning the adharma in the infamous hall of dice and refusing to adhere to husband's decision of keeping her as a pawn in the game of dice.

But how many read, understand these things. If everyone takes it the right way then people dont have to fight for gender equality.



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yes Adi Zoya is confused.
@nerdgal both Adi and Zoya exert right on each other. They both know it. They are so much connected. But their past is not allowing them to come closer. Yes they need to be separated to ponder over things but tv show cant run if the leads are seperated 😃
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Absolutely fantastic post!! Amazing analysed 👏
N that mukhagni or funeral... both AdiYa didnt give Poosh anthim viddai... coz neither wr they destined to... nor did they deserve it!!
That was something I actually got to understand when I saw it for the first time 👍🏼
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi Sututi
Absolutely loved your post!

You are so right about what we've been taught about husbands. It's less of religious and more of society thing. Just like how we are taught to be the good girl or a good child. It's changing. The problems we were taught to see in black and white rather than gray.

You are right the epic stories were meant with reality of life but the interpretation is not taught correctly as we were growing. Things are changing. The way childreni are raised is changing. We were taught not to question elders now children demands understanding before obeying orders. Things are being explained not simply followed anymore. Children are taught to be assertive.

till date struggle I struggle. Being the good girl to my parents, in-laws, my husband, I am lost somewhere.

I will be quite disturbed if the child turned out to be Adi's. You've explained it really nicely .
Wonder how he is going to come out of that,?

At the sometime had she not told Adi about it and Yash decided to give his name, that says s lot about their character and their delusional world. 🤢


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Posted: 7 years ago
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I don't actually think Zoya had considered her husband God. But, yes her unconditional love and devotion to her husband made most of us feel that way Because if she would have considered that then by today's date after suicide attempt she would have stopped the Yash Jaap because khandit Murti is not worshipped and neither made to be worshipped. So, basically Yash was wrong to think Zoya wouldn't understand , he didn't stir the boat of their relationsip in their right direction. Instead he looked for another boat that didn't belong to him. Its just Zoya's guilt that's making her do all this. Yes, her husband's betrayal got her on the streets in that dirtt.

Don't know whether Yash or Aditya was the father of the baby of the baby in Pooja's womb. I actually don't care but the fact remains she cheated her friend not just her official husband and didn't inform him of the news. After watching the precap I'm geeting a good feeling that Zoya won't reopen the court case herself she will leave an open option for Aditya and it will be his call. it's this Aditya who will liberate her of this guilt.i
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Shruthi di, what makes you watch a show?
And which show would you watch next?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Moving post Shruti... loved your initial thoughts..the concept of worshipping the husband like one's own god... another patriarchal decree...through the ages twisting the scriptures to suit societies needs men's needs... the scriptures talk about the wife being part of the husband... question is did Yash love Zoya the way he loved him self? seeing she was his other half... clearly not.. he amputated Zoya like an unwanted part of his well self! selfish!

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi



@Hend dear Hend though I dont want to delve into religious aspect in deeper sense, if your religion has taught the woman has the right to correct the husband if he goes wrong, the women in your community need not have to knock at the door of Supreme Court to get justice for being the victims of Triple talaq. Yes I know as per your religion there are certain guidelines given for doing talaq. I have listened to those debates where many knowledgeable people from your community were speaking on how it should be done the right way. But there was another section who vociferously argued for instant talaq even through whatsapp as valid and woman is on the streets with kids.
In Hinduism also there are clear guidelines given for the duties of husband and wife. Infact our epic Ramayana shows the way to live the life right way as Narayan himself came with his consort Mahalakshmi and lived the life of the normal human being going through all trials and tribulations. It is not some words that are written for us on how to lead a good life, but in fact our God has shown us how to live with his life. It is not preaching, it is in action. And that knowledge of living a good life is given to Arjuna by Sri Krishna during Mahabharatha war which we call Bhagavad Gita. That book is life. Secondly in Hinduism woman are not asked to follow husband alone, but husband also has to follow his wife. The saptapadi or seven rounds husbands walks in front for four rounds and wife walks in front for three rounds. It is she who completes the marriage. The right to put the garland is given to the lady first in our religion.

But unfortunately just like the feud of triple talaq these noble things are hidden and wherever men get right to assert themselves get highlighted. I only mentioned that in my post.

Secondly u said if your husband is wrong you have to correct. How do you know he is wrong. Our epics Ramayana and Mahabharatha gives guideline here also with the leading ladies of both epics standing up for themselves. Sita in rejecting Rama and doing bhoomipravesh and Panchali by questioning the adharma in the infamous hall of dice and refusing to adhere to husband's decision of keeping her as a pawn in the game of dice.

But how many read, understand these things. If everyone takes it the right way then people dont have to fight for gender equality.




Like you said there is a difference between what religion tells us and what we really do in our lives

I just replied because you made a general statement that there is all religions say husband is a God and no religion tells how to choose your partners or even if you chose wrong what to do that's all
I talked about the religion I follow and know

I'm not Indian and I know what the laws in your country and what is triple talaq you are talking about but I know the Talaq system for us is the best but like you said there are many don't follow its steps right they just say the word without knowing its rights and its weight

Thank you for your reply
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@harini yes woman is expected to keep everyone happy. But what about her. It's a question we need to ask ourselves.@enlighten why I told the worship part was when zoya fell the lyrics that played were maanti hu khuda Tum hi ho. It kind of implied how zo had treated yash. @hammie yes the saddest part the twisting of scriptures to suit patriarchy. While they have always highlighted mutual respect and co existence.@nerdgal I love romantic thrillers. Basically a story and prefer finite series. More than actors for movie I give importance to directors. Though recently I love the themes aamir khan and akshay kumatare taking. But that's rare. For shows I go by PH.cinevistaa shows I love. Then of course beyond dreams who give decent fare. I stay far away from ekta and reshmi Sharma. At this point apart from bp nothing interests me.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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It doesn't talk how a girl should identify her parameshwar. No religion teaches her how to identify a man worthy of worship. Hence a Ravan too gets a Mandodari who fasts and prays for his well being. Yes, there will be a difference between Ravan and Ram. But it is said there is practically no difference between Mandodari and Sita. In fact Mahadev also had found it difficult to beat Jalandhar because of Vrinda's chastity which Vishnu had to take using his Maya.---

My God ,how I missed this fantastic post?! If anyone missed reading this , I consider it as a sin !! Simply love these lines Sruthi ! Wah , at last , after a long time, reading a writer writing the facts about Maryada Purushottam and Pati rakshasas! 👏 Since centuries the sages and society brainwashing a girl alike , have to live for the fame and welfare of the man , only for the man , to take forward his family an heir giving machine !!
Admire your crtical analysis and logical conclusions. Wonderful post . Now will read the replies 😊

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