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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sun2011

hellooo sun,😃 great to see you mate..
Hamlet - i was so waiting for your post.
Must say what depth - you penned down so beautifully what I grasped and felt in the undercurrents of the case and precap.
have to say.. was quite taken aback with the defence... harsh did his job well... we found out new things about yash... mental illness issues.. true or false?
Also, there are many posts in the forum against Zoya reaction in the court scene and precap.
Zoya is not wrong in her reaction. My stance is Zoya feels responsible and guilty for Yash's name being maligned in court - perhaps she was also made to feel more by Madhu and Mahi.
The pained look that Zoya exchanges with Madhu - is the look between 2 women who love Yash unconditionally.
yes... and Madhu trusted her.. zoya tears were conveying she had nothing to do with anti Yash spiel ! especially the mental illness one... it was news to us too..
Two women who feel guilty (more so Zoya) with the thought that if they had made more of an effort = Yash may still have been alive - rather than travel back and forth to Mussourie and Mumbai steeped in business and money and relationship problems.
there was loads that Harsh and Ashsih said that was true.. Yash spent loads to pander to the needs of zoya and his family... FB showed it was well pointed
Adi senses some of Zoya's pain; however, with his growing bond with Zoya - he wants to make sure they are safe and out of the jail at any cost. I am sure after the precap - his moral compass will also not let him stay put and he will be swayed to be with Zoya perhaps. Can't wait to see how CVs proceed - but I do trust them. BP rocks in making us think of everyone's perspectives and make us navigate the quagmire of morals.
you have summarized your thoughts well..⭐️... Sun.. Adi felt perhaps his Pa' was out of order.. but he was told to keep mum... yes me hoping he will smooth Zoya's ruffled feathers.. that's how its been between them,since they met.. I expected Zoya to protest.. if she hadn't I would doubt her loyalty to the family she was wedded into.. she admits she is dense.. but can be strong enough to object to things which might be untrue.. Yash's clinical depression and his suicide... like you say.. the show leaves a lot to mull over... brilliant! keeps us going... thanks so much for your thoughts... much love yours hammie

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolgal270

hellooo coolgal270,😃 great to see you
Amazing post Hammie, as always!
I too had mentioned this in twitter that day...Adi and zoya loved their respective spouses for YEARS! And loved them dearly!! Feelings don't die in such short time! The pain is lessening, yes..the love doesn't hurt them that much but feelings are there somewhat!
ohhh good.. if they didn't how would we deduce that Zoya and Adi were serious in their marriages? yes things went terribly wrong.. had they known they them selves were failing their respective marriages.. they just might have done something about it.. to me both zoya and Adi are two people who take marriage seriously.. clearly both have memories with their partners..
For me, both zoya and Adi heard the words MOST likely to rile them up.
For Zoya, that it was because of her & her high maintenance nature,yash had to take loans,which eventually led to his downfall!!
yes... and the FB between Zoya and Yash showed us its was true what Harsh pointed out
For Adi, how he would have felt if a lawyer had proved in court that puja was characterless, that for MONEY and NOt love, she would sleep around??
For me that money part makes a big difference in that whole context..
see we know so little about Pooja.. few FB.. don't tell me enough about her.. I only know her through Adi... but interesting thought
I know what zoya said was a hypothetical situation, but it hurt Adi just at the right place!!!
that was to me the whole point... PRICK! yaad hai needle wala scene this scene was a starting point of further gelling together.. rather than .. a split!
We need to see the whole story on monday! What exactly did zoya say to Adi, how he responded BEFORE he almost raised his hand,does anyone try to tell her how Adi had Put himself in the line of fire to save her?
the point is .. he showed his anger.. but stopped his action... who knows he might even call her in and explain... things to her on Monday..
and Yash was hated by the Siddiques too! thanks for sharing your thoughts mate... it was quite an episode... why did Pa' not refer to Pooja's dairy..?? cv's doing a great job in omitting bits...😃... keeps us on our toes much love hammie

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

hellooo Shruthi,😃 good to see you mate
Hammie a very beautiful and balanced post of a very intense episode. Do check out my post too.would love ur views
will do... Saturday was busy.. yes would love to know about the episode that made me bowled over...
in it. See aroras are powerless people compared to siddique and hoodas. Though I have no sympathy for mahi who went to tarnish her bhabi's image ended up tarnishing his brother name instead. But madhu does she deserve this lie about her son. Pooja yash had ema. Pooja diary and the ring with pooja name in yash hand are indicative of that .but ur right this defense can make adiya rethink. to say koi affair nehin tha..
Adi has not read pooja diary and zoya has not observed pooja name in that ring. Second every one says doesn't zoya think about her parents. Where was wasim siddique when his daughter went against him and stayed in Mumbai. He would have got her dead body if madhu had not called adi not seeing zoya when zo was locked up in terrace by adi accidentally. It was madhu who went in search of zoya with noor when zoya went beserk seeing divorce papers. It was madhu who told she believes her dil didn't kill her son. And can zoya simply walk past those tears of a mother. It is not possible. Madhu arora is not powerful but she too needs her dignity.
👏👏 yes... you said it.. zoya could sense some maternal love from Madhu... Mahi's fake affection and support Zoya misinterpreted but Madu gave Zoya and Noor shelter..
Yash character assassination pains her as a mother and zoya as a wife. Adi cannot get zoya till she reaches the truth till she clears her dead husband 's name in public even if that means death to her. Zoya coming in pooja Saree to hooda house as Kali, yes the virtuos woman is given the clothing of a maligned woman. She will come to destroy that household that has taken down her reputation and only one person can stop her.aditya. Only he can direct her anger the right way so that she doesn't end up destroying everything including herself. It is upto him to restore her soul,deliver justice to her so that he gets peace and bepannah love.
yes Shruti you make me think... in the precap Zoya comes to Hooda house as Kali!!! INDEED!
and yes... a bust up between Adiya is normal... let them thrash out their differences.. they'll only grow stronger... thanks for your engaging comment.. will check your post.. much love hammie

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: SuzanneH

helllooo SuzanneH...😃 super to see you

Well it was a victorious end to be sure, with Mr. Hooda saving both Adi and Zoya but to what end? Saved them from likely spending a lifetime in prison, but completely maligned Yash's character and in doing so, crushing Zoya's heart as well as her mother in-law. I won't add Mahi in the mix for obvious reasons .
its was an episode drizzled with Hooda supremacy ! even Pooja 's virtue was shielded by the brass of the Hooda name
Often in court cases where juries are involved, and one of the lawyers has said something that may be irrelevant or misleading, the judge will ask the jury to strike the last statement. The problem and the advantage (at the same time) with this is that the statement is already spoken and being processed in one's mind. Even if the judge asks to have the statement struck, it's not like you can delete it from your mind. It remains there.
yes true Suzanne, the spoken word, more so in court as in real word, influences thinking for sure
So now we have seeds of doubt growing in the minds of Adi and Zoya and by default, also the viewers! Well done! Was that a calculated move on Mr. Hooda's part? Or does he know what the true relationship between Pooja and Yash was? He sure came up with the news that Yash had clinical depression and even found his doctor pretty darn fast, and all before the 9:00 a.m. start !!
he did warn Adi he fight for both of them.. but how he does ? is going to be his game plan! in hindsight... harsh motive was to get his son out by hook or crook
I absolutely agree with your precap musings. And I believe that the majority of life's disagreements would not even occur if the proverbial shoe were worn on the other person's foot. Meaning, how do you think Zoya felt having her husband's name trashed in court and consequently hurting her mother inlaw? It hurt her heart to the very core and her anger was justified. Couldn't Mr. Hooda save them both without destroying her? So then let's see how the shoe fits on the other foot? Adi's foot in particular. The shoe doesn't feel so great when Zoya asks him how would he feel if Pooja's character was trashed and it was told that she had been sleeping with many men? His reaction clearly showed that he wouldn't like it, to the point of almost hitting her. So basically, their reactions would be the same. Just my musings from watching the precap.
exactly... this fall out will only force them to discuss more openly the issue of something both vowed... during circumambulations... be loyal and stand by your partners family... after all marriage is also a bond between two families.. I am sure.. both will understand each other predicaments
As always, love reading your thoughts. You could print them all up and make it into a book!!
at some point I will
so fantastic to hear your thought provoking comment Suzanne😃 book is a bit far fetched,,,😛 but your thought sure gives me a big head!! love praise😛... ohhh Suzanne I might post my thoughts index though... hope you catch it when I do.. lovely to hear from you , much love hammie






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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi Hammie, I am back.. Father's day picnic with we kids cooking. Had a good time.
Unresed on pg-1. 😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: geetkumar

Hey Hammie!!
hellooo geet😃 me trying to sneak in and out of the forum..

Was waiting for your post. But looks like I am a little late.
nooo edhur sirf hammie posts late geet.. 😛
What a heavy episode. Mr. Hooda's arguments left nothing for the prosecution to fight for. He left everyone speechless. Justice served, both of them acquitted. But at what cost? Especially Zoya.
Harsh very cleverly acquitted Puja of all the blames and indirectly through Yash, put the entire blame on Zoya! yes... it pays to be a Hooda!
And you are right, the only one who could have questioned his ways was Adi, and since he has given his word to him, he will abide by it.
Pa's warned him to keep his gob shut! it was chilling when Harsh said his ways to get them release will be farak!
The other day I said that Zoya gave her trust to Adi, But today's incident is going to be such a huge set back for them. Its as if they are going two steps ahead and then pulled five steps back.
I agree with all of the above comments.
yes.. Geet there will be weighing of trusts between them.. koi nehin sab theek hoga
Regarding Madhu, Again I would say, Like Sakshi, she is not a bad person. She is a simple woman, nothing like her cunning and manipulative daughter. She is just a little gullible. And don't we all blame Zoya of it too? Then why so much of hate? No mother wants her child's name maligned, specially if he is a dead one.
all I know is Madhu kept Zoya and Noor in her house.. free of charge.. think about it.. hope Zoya Tells her maa and abbu... Yash ke maa kept his daughters.. mind you Waseem came to Yash's house
*I completely agree with @coolgal270 here.
For Adi, how he would have felt if a lawyer had proved in court that puja was characterless, that for MONEY and not love, she would sleep around??
Lets see more on Monday.. picture abhi baki hai meri dost.. 😃 bepannah bepannah! wot a watch! never a dull moment... could do with some Adi jokes..😛 much love ,yours hammie

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: dreamy.tiara

Hi Hammie, I am back.. Father's day picnic with we kids cooking. Had a good time.

Unresed on pg-1. 😊


ahhh Fathers day! that sounds just great... and picnic in the park amazing... cooking??? niceee... me still greedy after briyani coming out of my ears! me reversing back tp page one..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: dreamy.tiara

Dear Hammie, hellooo Tia .. see you're back from picnic! keeping Pa' happy!


Beautiful post! ❤️
ohhh a heart sign... chiku ke liya I assume.. he looked phased out in court... constricted.. constrained

I too think it is possible that Mr. Hooda and Mr. Siddiqui joined their intellects in building the defense. For, factually, how would Mr. Hooda contact Mr. Charlie on such a short notice?...apart from the fact that Mr. Hooda's opinion about Yash echoed Mr. Siddiqui's. Mr. Siddiqui had already offered him his helping hand for the case.
ohhh totally... remember Waseem's comments ..Yash accrued losses.. because the bloke had no business sense..
Adi had put his freedom on stake for Zoya. And Mr. Hooda used the opportunity to trade his family's dignity, his DIL's dignity in lieu of the Arora's: Yash and the family that survives him. The last statement by the judge "Zoya Arora ko baizzat bari kiya jata hai" sounded like an oxymoron.
the irony is how cleverly the arguments panned out.. to set Adi and his Zid! free... well the zid will have to pay... nothing comes cheap.. especially aversion of double murder .. And true Judge's words were ironical..
Also, Mr. Hooda's defense indirectly tags Zoya as an inconsiderate wife, who pushed her husband to bankruptcy and depression with her demands for luxury. Do you think Mr. Siddiqui would suggest such a thing?
no... Waseem would chip in the man had no business sense... but Tia we saw that Yash was under duress due to Zoya's suggestions... I think she will have problems
I don't think Mr. Hooda's claim about the affair is true, because 1. he wanted to clear his family's reputation 2. Sakshi never denied the affair to Adi. Her leaving lines to Adi were it takes two to tango 3. Pooja had written about her feelings for Yash in her diary, and Yash had bought a diamond ring with Pooja's name engraved on it... One statement common between Sakshi and Mr. Hooda is Pooja decided against the divorce in the last moment. This might be true. But will Adi forgive Pooja for her final decision?
its like raking up his wounds .. plus protecting Hooda name.. it was clear to me.. I think Adi too knew Pa was as usual covering up the Pooja Hooda Yash affair.. did it with such panache that even me believed maybe there wasn't anything between them.. but of course it is dramatic irony.. but this too I feel Harsh wants Zoya away from Adi..
tell you its interesting how I could here Waseem.. in Harsh's defence.. what was news to me was Yash's mental illness.. cleverly used to show the possibility of a suicide attempt prompted by being heavily in debt.. master stroke by Harsh.. and in all this Adi knows his Pa's kam kerne ke tareeke... me shaking my head..

I had told you before that the precap had baffled me and shot my BP up. For I, like any attached audience, was expecting a cool breeze after the heated drama. After calming myself down, I somewhat tried to reason with it. I completely agree with what you said. Love, especially first love, can't be forgotten so easily. Adi needed the pinch from Zoya to understand her hurt feelings. Zoya needed to see that her words hurt Adi to understand he cared for her to the extent he would risk his own freedom. I hope these two realize this, in the upcoming episodes, instead fighting over the past.
Tia the precap was a cliff hanger.. what next is to be seen... may be Arjun will intervene to usher a brief truce between this volatile pair... tell you what ..missed Sakhshi want to know about her and Pooja's background.. so far its Hoodas in the arena... like the Hooda ladka's
Thank you for writing this beautiful post. Eid Mubarak, once again. 🤗
Thanks Tia.. for meethi eid.. mu cuz made lemon drizzle cake with lemon curd sauce! my teeth feel sour now!! watching switz. / brazi Fifa match! chillaxing! much love yours hammie
- Tia

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