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Posted: 10 years ago
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hi welcome to forum.
i actually havent seen any major arguments about any couple. all of seen on this forum is people putting their opinion out on which jodi they ship for but i havent really seen any one arguing like you say. i just see everyone having a calm conversation even if they ship different couples.

i also do agree wiht your points about priyom and lakhan. but i also ship lakhan and poonam. however i also really like poonam and priyom's relationship, cause its so adorable. so its really hard for me to like one couple and not like the other.

but i do feel that lakhan-poonam's story may be more interesting since we would see how he becomes a better guy and how poonam changes him or something.
i personally would like to see some interaction between lakhan and poonam. i want poonam to say things to him. but thats probs gonna take ages.
even though i like lakhan there are a few things about him i dont like, like how he was following poonam to college, that a bit freaky. if he wanted to drop her off on her first day, he could have just asked her hey i will drop you off tomorrow.
i believe lakhan is hot headed but he still has some goodness in his heart, thats why i wnat to see him redeem himself.
and as far as priyom is concerned, well he has a charming smile, perfect attitude, and i think all girls are crazy about him, even if they ship for lakhan-poonam.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I ship Poonam N Priyom. I do not support Priyom's flirting .But he understand Poonam better than any one .He gives her the space and that's why Poonam behaves normally with him .The Poonam with Priyom is the real Poonam.Were as with Lakhan she is suppressed and cannot behave normally.

I am also shocked to see many rooting for Poonam N Lakhan.This shows our society has not changed.Why Poonam as to correct Lakhan and make him love her .Why always girls r show sacrificial lamb in the shows. In many shows hero will be arrogant but heroine has to correct him and make him fall for her. CV's giving wrong message to society.By showing you should adjust with abusive relationship.

I want CV's to make Poonam a strong a girl.Who can stand up for her rights and have the guts to end her engagement with Lakhan.
Edited by VIMAL.M - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: VIMAL.M

I ship Poonam N Priyom. I do not support Priyom's flirting .But he understand Poonam better than any one .She gives her the space and that's why Poonam behaves normally with him .The Poonam with Priyom is the real Poonam.Were as with Lakhan she is suppressed and cannot behave normally.

I am also shocked to see many rooting for Poonam N Lakhan.This shows our society has not changed.Why Poonam as to correct Lakhan and make him love her .Why always girls r show sacrificial lamb in the shows. In many shows hero will be arrogant but heroine has to correct him and make him fall for her. CV's giving wrong message to society.By showing you should adjust with abusive relationship.

I want CV's to make Poonam a strong a girl.Who can stand up for her rights and have the guts to end her engagement with Lakhan.



Yes absolutely agree with each and every point you have raised 👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: VIMAL.M

I ship Poonam N Priyom. I do not support Priyom's flirting .But he understand Poonam better than any one .She gives her the space and that's why Poonam behaves normally with him .The Poonam with Priyom is the real Poonam.Were as with Lakhan she is suppressed and cannot behave normally.

I am also shocked to see many rooting for Poonam N Lakhan.This shows our society has not changed.Why Poonam as to correct Lakhan and make him love her .Why always girls r show sacrificial lamb in the shows. In many shows hero will be arrogant but heroine has to correct him and make him fall for her. CV's giving wrong message to society.By showing you should adjust with abusive relationship.

I want CV's to make Poonam a strong a girl.Who can stand up for her rights and have the guts to end her engagement with Lakhan.

I agree poonam should definitely stand up for herself.. But that won't be done when you keep hiding behind the man with whom you feel safe.. (pruyom) it is by standing up to the man by whom you feel threatened..

Also abuse?? You know by throwing around that word so casually what ones end up doing is demeaning the suffering of
women who actually go throw it.. In what way is Lakhan abusive of poonam.. He crowds her space? That is abuse? That is neither physical nor mental nor verbal abuse. It is something poonam must ask him not to do. The fact that she is intimidated by Lakhan is more a result of her own introvert and fearful nature than Lakhan harming her in any way.

You know ship fights are actually a result of comments like this.. When you directly or indirectly take a dig at the other ship or the shippers. Everyone who ships Lakhan and Poonam is supportive of abuse? Or maybe completely unenlightened and uneducated to support a ship like this.. Please while commenting on your own ship, try and be respectful to others.. I can assure that I am neither anti female (I am a girl myself) nor a retarded unenlightened backward hillbilly. I am just more interested in the Lakhan poonam dynamic.
And since we are talking female and how they are made sacrificial lambs and the sort.. Priyom does not flirt.. Flirting is harmless. Priyom sleeps around.. 76 girls are a notch on his bed post. You cannot wear blinders when it comes to the other lead. I can argue that atleast Lakhan is loyal. Is sleeping around and bedding the entire town while poonam was his fiancee(presumably had she been engaged to the "better brother") count as abuse??? You can argue that Yes.. Because neglect is a form of abuse. But no.. That is just adultery.. Why should poonam be the" sacrificial lamb" and be in charge of reforming priyom's philandering ways??

Finally, you are welcome to present your views but while doing it don't presume things of the other Fandom or diss them indirectly of being supportive of abuse. That is not welcome.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: VIMAL.M

I ship Poonam N Priyom. I do not support Priyom's flirting .But he understand Poonam better than any one .She gives her the space and that's why Poonam behaves normally with him .The Poonam with Priyom is the real Poonam.Were as with Lakhan she is suppressed and cannot behave normally.

I am also shocked to see many rooting for Poonam N Lakhan.This shows our society has not changed.Why Poonam as to correct Lakhan and make him love her .Why always girls r show sacrificial lamb in the shows. In many shows hero will be arrogant but heroine has to correct him and make him fall for her. CV's giving wrong message to society.By showing you should adjust with abusive relationship.

I want CV's to make Poonam a strong a girl.Who can stand up for her rights and have the guts to end her engagement with Lakhan.



Hey there. I normally stay away from such posts, but the thing in red, includes me, cuz well, you said society.

First of all, Do mind your language please. By throwing around words like abuse, society, abusive relationship, etc. you're actually inviting a very heated discussion and diminishing the actual importance of those words. Abuse is a very serious matter and nothing that has been shown uptil now in Poonam and Laakhan's relationship classifies as ABUSE. I would have agreed if you'd have said Manjeetha is abusive towards his wife. But Poonam and Laakhan are far from so right now.

Also, it is NOT your show. So I would like for you refrain from pointing fingers at the creatives of this show who are investing their blood and sweat into making this show.

Also, Wanting something to happen in a fiction show, that too on Indian television, is useless. And I am pretty sure this isn't your first indian show to know better.


Regarding Priyom, I am not saying Poonam isn't casual with him. What I am saying is that nobody is perfect, and what turn the story takes is up to the creatives.


But passing a judgement on the show, the couple, and the society, is very very harsh.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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I don't support Priyom's behavior and I also don't want Poonam to re-form any one that includes Priyomand Lakhan .WhatLakhanet did with Poonam in the shop is a kind of abusive according to me. Poonam is not puppet.That she has to do whatever Lakhan wants.
I watched many soaps .Were they portray women controlled by men.Women do all the sacrifice .

As a viewer of the show I have right to point out plus and minus of the shows.Always cannot praise a show and CV's .Some might like what shown and some might not like what shown.They will point fingers at CV's .If they show something wrong according to me.I will express it in the forum.If what I have expressed is against IF rules.Mods will take necessary action against me.



I did not pass any judgment .I just shared my view and what I see in the society .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: VIMAL.M

I don't support Priyom's behavior and I also don't want Poonam to re-form any one that includes Priyomand Lakhan .WhatLakhanet did with Poonam in the shop is a kind of abusive according to me. Poonam is not puppet.That she has to do whatever Lakhan wants.

I watched many soaps .Were they portray women controlled by men.Women do all the sacrifice .

As a viewer of the show I have right to point out plus and minus of the shows.Always cannot praise a show and CV's .Some might like what shown and some might not like what shown.They will point fingers at CV's .If they show something wrong according to me.I will express it in the forum.If what I have expressed is against IF rules.Mods will take necessary action against me.



I did not pass any judgment .I just shared my view and what I see in the society .

Sharing your views and criticizing the show is not what upset me in the first place.. Go ahead and do it.. Criticise Lakhan and the CVS to your hearts content and we will defend it since that is our right.. And we will do it with politeness with no ill feelings..
"I am shocked to see so many Lakhan poonam shippers. This shows that our society has not changed " explain to me again why our existence is so shocking to you and why you feel that our existence is a very indicator of the fact that the society is still primitive.. Contrary to your belief we are not dumb.. We understand exactly what you mean and we take offense. And tell me why should we not feel offended by that.. You are not authorized to pass judgment and yet you did judge us. And tried to indirectly dictate our choices and shame us for it.. So pardon me if I chose to respond with a what the heck.
Share your views, do not try to shame and question others for theirs
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mystique.Kishi

Sharing your views and criticizing the show is not what upset me in the first place.. Go ahead and do it.. Criticise Lakhan and the CVS to your hearts content and we will defend it since that is our right.. And we will do it with politeness with no ill feelings..
"I am shocked to see so many Lakhan poonam shippers. This shows that our society has not changed " explain to me again why our existence is so shocking to you and why you feel that our existence is a very indicator of the fact that the society is still primitive.. Contrary to your belief we are not dumb.. We understand exactly what you mean and we take offense. And tell me why should we not feel offended by that.. You are not authorized to pass judgment and yet you did judge us. And tried to indirectly dictate our choices and shame us for it.. So pardon me if I chose to respond with a what the heck.
Share your views, do not try to shame and question others for theirs


According to me Lakhan is a control freak.He does not respect Poonam's POV .He wants to control her life and he punishes her for the mistake she has not done .So I was shocked how some support a character like Lakhan.



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Posted: 10 years ago
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To be brutally honest I do not appreciate the lack of conversation between Lakhan and Poonam. Of course Poonam is shown as a timid and shy girl who doesn't have open conversations with anyone but Priyom. But Lakhan isn't the kind of man to not talk. I really do like Lakhan and the layers in his character are very intriguing and will be interesting to watch when they unfold, but why did Lakhan not think once to ask Poonam what actually happened on the first day of college? When he knew that Pooman would never step forth and exaplin the whole situation why did he not take the initiative? Why did he not believe in the girl he loves? Why did he not even give her a chance to explain herself? Why did he believe in all the 'kahi suni baatein' from people who didn't even witness the whole situation of mild ragging unfold in person? What does this say abt Lakhan? Is he easily manipulated? Does he not have a thinking and anylizing system?
Okay, let's just assume for a moment that even after answering all those questions Lakhan has a very high potential for growth as a character, which he does and which would be beautiful to watch.
But what he did with Poonam in the clothes shop is just inacceptable. Making her wear all the clothes once? Fine. After she is done putting on all the clothes and you have made her feel like shit abt singing, You make her try on ALL the clothes AGAIN?? Man, can't u c she is clearly uncomfortable about this whole procedure?
What I really expect from Lakhan and Poonam in this show is humongous 'Character growth and development'. Nothing feels better than watching two highly flawed characters evolve in the most beautiful ways. It isn't necessary for them to fall in love. May be if their friendship is shown before the love, it would prove a lot more effective.
Now there's our bad boy Priyom. I guess a lot of people have diverse views and definitions on 'bad boys' but mine is very simple. A 'bad boy' is basically any boy who considers himself a womanizer and is one. On top of that he is also effortlessly charming and good looking. A bad boy is also someone who loves the females but makes it very clear that this is a no-strings attached kind of a situation. And this is exactly what Priyom is and Lakhan is not. I do not disapprove of Priyom's ways. He isn't hurting anyone while he does what he does. He isn't getting the girl pregnant. He is keeping it very casual and literally just about the physical pleasures.
But Lakhan according to me isn't a bad boy. He in fact is the good one. He is the one who is loyal. He is the one who protects the girl he loves for danger that isn't even certain. Of course his ways of showing care are very different form the standard ways if showing care but that is what is so 'hatke' about him.
To be honest, I equally like both the couples and haven't been able to make a concrete decision as to which side of the fandom I m on. But just wanted to contribute my view on the whole subject here.

P.s. the view and definition of a bad boy are purely mine. And others may have different views. And that's totally OKAY.
Edited by quintessential - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: quintessential

To be brutally honest I do not appreciate the lack of conversation between Lakhan and Poonam. Of course Poonam is shown as a timid and shy girl who doesn't have open conversations with anyone but Priyom. But Lakhan isn't the kind of man to not talk. I really do like Lakhan and the layers in his character are very intriguing and will be interesting to watch when they unfold, but why did Lakhan not think once to ask Poonam what actually happened on the first day of college? When he knew that Pooman would never step forth and exaplin the whole situation why did he not take the initiative? Why did he not believe in the girl he loves? Why did he not even give her a chance to explain herself? Why did he believe in all the 'kahi suni baatein' from people who didn't even witness the whole situation of mild ragging unfold in person? What does this say abt Lakhan? Is he easily manipulated? Does he not have a thinking and anylizing system?

I don't believe it's just that. What would have poonam said to him anyways? She did sing and was not much too bothered by it. And it was not her fault at all. She was just enjoying her new found freedom. What chuniya did was convince Lakhan that his fiancee is being bullied and he reacted. But there is more to it. Poonam is the girl who have not even properly smiled in front of Lakhan and then to get to know that she actually sang in front of a bunch of strangers. Can you imagine what that must have did to him? She deprives him of the pleasure of even looking into her eyes.. It must have eaten away at him. And he was hurt and he reacted in the only way he knew.. He lashed out and made poonam feel the same way he is feeling. I think "the waning moon" written by SenbonZakura describes it perfectly . That is just my take on it
Okay, let's just assume for a moment that even after answering all those questions Lakhan has a very high potential for growth as a character, which he does and which would be beautiful to watch.
But what he did with Poonam in the clothes shop is just inacceptable. Making her wear all the clothes once? Fine. After she is done putting on all the clothes and you have made her feel like shit abt singing, You make her try on ALL the clothes AGAIN?? Man, can't u c she is clearly uncomfortable about this whole procedure?
What I really expect from Lakhan and Poonam in this show is humongous 'Character growth and development'. Nothing feels better than watching two highly flawed characters evolve in the most beautiful ways. It isn't necessary for them to fall in love. May be if their friendship is shown before the love, it would prove a lot more effective.
Now there's our bad boy Priyom. I guess a lot of people have diverse views and definitions on 'bad boys' but mine is very simple. A 'bad boy' is basically any boy who considers himself a womanizer and is one. On top of that he is also effortlessly charming and good looking. A bad boy is also someone who loves the females but makes it very clear that this is a no-strings attached kind of a situation. And this is exactly what Priyom is and Lakhan is not. I do not disapprove of Priyom's ways. He isn't hurting anyone while he does what he does. He isn't getting the girl pregnant. He is keeping it very casual and literally just about the physical pleasures.
But Lakhan according to me isn't a bad boy. He in fact is the good one. He is the one who is loyal. He is the one who protects the girl he loves for danger that isn't even certain. Of course his ways of showing care are very different form the standard ways if showing care but that is what is so 'hatke' about him.
To be honest, I equally like both the couples and haven't been able to make a concrete decision as to which side of the fandom I m on. But just wanted to contribute my view on the whole subject here.

P.s. the view and definition of a bad boy are purely mine. And others may have different views. And that's totally OKAY.



I loved to know about your views by the way. It was very balanced.

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