CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!!!! - Page 3

Originally posted by: quintessential

To be brutally honest I do not appreciate the lack of conversation between Lakhan and Poonam. Of course Poonam is shown as a timid and shy girl who doesn't have open conversations with anyone but Priyom. But Lakhan isn't the kind of man to not talk. I really do like Lakhan and the layers in his character are very intriguing and will be interesting to watch when they unfold, but why did Lakhan not think once to ask Poonam what actually happened on the first day of college? When he knew that Pooman would never step forth and exaplin the whole situation why did he not take the initiative? Why did he not believe in the girl he loves? Why did he not even give her a chance to explain herself? Why did he believe in all the 'kahi suni baatein' from people who didn't even witness the whole situation of mild ragging unfold in person? What does this say abt Lakhan? Is he easily manipulated? Does he not have a thinking and anylizing system?

Okay, let's just assume for a moment that even after answering all those questions Lakhan has a very high potential for growth as a character, which he does and which would be beautiful to watch.

But what he did with Poonam in the clothes shop is just inacceptable. Making her wear all the clothes once? Fine. After she is done putting on all the clothes and you have made her feel like shit abt singing, You make her try on ALL the clothes AGAIN?? Man, can't u c she is clearly uncomfortable about this whole procedure?

What I really expect from Lakhan and Poonam in this show is humongous 'Character growth and development'. Nothing feels better than watching two highly flawed characters evolve in the most beautiful ways. It isn't necessary for them to fall in love. May be if their friendship is shown before the love, it would prove a lot more effective.

Now there's our bad boy Priyom. I guess a lot of people have diverse views and definitions on 'bad boys' but mine is very simple. A 'bad boy' is basically any boy who considers himself a womanizer and is one. On top of that he is also effortlessly charming and good looking. A bad boy is also someone who loves the females but makes it very clear that this is a no-strings attached kind of a situation. And this is exactly what Priyom is and Lakhan is not. I do not disapprove of Priyom's ways. He isn't hurting anyone while he does what he does. He isn't getting the girl pregnant. He is keeping it very casual and literally just about the physical pleasures.

But Lakhan according to me isn't a bad boy. He in fact is the good one. He is the one who is loyal. He is the one who protects the girl he loves for danger that isn't even certain. Of course his ways of showing care are very different form the standard ways if showing care but that is what is so 'hatke' about him.

To be honest, I equally like both the couples and haven't been able to make a concrete decision as to which side of the fandom I m on. But just wanted to contribute my view on the whole subject here.

P.s. the view and definition of a bad boy are purely mine. And others may have different views. And that's totally OKAY.

Originally posted by: Mystique.Kishi

I agree poonam should definitely stand up for herself.. But that won't be done when you keep hiding behind the man with whom you feel safe.. (pruyom) it is by standing up to the man by whom you feel threatened..

Also abuse?? You know by throwing around that word so casually what ones end up doing is demeaning the suffering of

women who actually go throw it.. In what way is Lakhan abusive of poonam.. He crowds her space? That is abuse? That is neither physical nor mental nor verbal abuse. It is something poonam must ask him not to do. The fact that she is intimidated by Lakhan is more a result of her own introvert and fearful nature than Lakhan harming her in any way.

You know ship fights are actually a result of comments like this.. When you directly or indirectly take a dig at the other ship or the shippers. Everyone who ships Lakhan and Poonam is supportive of abuse? Or maybe completely unenlightened and uneducated to support a ship like this.. Please while commenting on your own ship, try and be respectful to others.. I can assure that I am neither anti female (I am a girl myself) nor a retarded unenlightened backward hillbilly. I am just more interested in the Lakhan poonam dynamic.

And since we are talking female and how they are made sacrificial lambs and the sort.. Priyom does not flirt.. Flirting is harmless. Priyom sleeps around.. 76 girls are a notch on his bed post. You cannot wear blinders when it comes to the other lead. I can argue that atleast Lakhan is loyal. Is sleeping around and bedding the entire town while poonam was his fiancee(presumably had she been engaged to the "better brother") count as abuse??? You can argue that Yes.. Because neglect is a form of abuse. But no.. That is just adultery.. Why should poonam be the" sacrificial lamb" and be in charge of reforming priyom's philandering ways??

Finally, you are welcome to present your views but while doing it don't presume things of the other Fandom or diss them indirectly of being supportive of abuse. That is not welcome.

Originally posted by: anshvi

I don't think this post has degraded any ship ..everyone has a right to state their opinion..You don't have to be so intimidating in your post..relax..No one has supported Priyom for his philandering ways..Ofcourse he is a flirt..but he has not forced anyone to be in a relation with him...I am not supporting his phlandering ways whatsoever..Some of us who don't support Lakhan are surprised to see why a man like Lakhan is supported by many...Why because he is the silent brooding type?..why because people want to see his 'interesting' dynamic with Poonam?..why because he is manipulated and it's not his fault? why because he loves Poonam and there is no harm in following a girl to her college? why because he is protective of Poonam?...I would call Lakhan over possessive and not protective..I would say if he gets easily manipulated and doesn't even understand Poonam it's his own fault...loving someone is different from not giving even a moment's space to the girl you proclaim to love...Yes Poonam is scared of Lakhan and this is how she is..Yes she needs to learn to take a stand for herself but you cant' blame the poor girl for being scared of a guy who without even blinking mercilessly snatched the earrings from a poor woman's ears and not even felt guilty for it...humiliating a girl by asing her to change clothes and try them on again and again if this is not mental torture then what is??????? So those who don't support Lakhan are confused as to how a character like Lakhan who has a regressive mentality, is over possesive, who is cruel and thinks a women's job is to stay at home can be liked by so many...At this point neither Priyom nor Lakhan are the kind of guys whom a girl would want to marry..But if Priyom is bad than Lakhan is worse...Also yes I totally agree with you Poonam is not a sacrificial lamb that should redeem Priyom and yes cretailny not redeem Lakhan as well...Many Lakhan supporters say they want Poonam to redeem lakhan which should not be the case..Also no one's post can cause a rift among shippers unless we are sensible enough to know how to peacefully reply or ignore posts that demean other ships rather than jumping in and doing the same.. This is my opinion 😊

Originally posted by: Hiral_Halwa

@TM - honestly there were no wars on the forum - before this thread cropped up - so please explain - where did u see any ship wars in the first place outside this thread, which made u annoyed ??

what is happening now, is that ur forcing people to agree with ur opinion..did anybody pressurize u to like laakhan? or ship laakham? I dont think so...everybody is just presenting their views on why "they" ship laakham..not "why u should ship them" - see the difference?!

and moral policing is not allowed, u cant force anyone to agree with ur view...or call out on others for being annoying and some other members here, who generalize "the whole of a forum" as some "backward regressively thinking society" - for heaven's sake its a fiction show..there is no need to blame the members or name call them or generalize them..so what if its all about chemistry, dynamics and potential interest in storyline?

whether we find the dynamics interesting - thats our business - not urs...!

u can ship priyom-punmy - who stopped u? and why should u stop others from shipping laakham either? please care to explain?🥱

also there is more to THIS SHOW than just continuously gloating about three characters...there are more angles, more characters ...where there can be universal discussions..but sadly - this is what u want to keep pressing ur point on and intrude on..🥱

Originally posted by: Hiral_Halwa

@TM - honestly there were no wars on the forum - before this thread cropped up - so please explain - where did u see any ship wars in the first place outside this thread, which made u annoyed ??

what is happening now, is that ur forcing people to agree with ur opinion..did anybody pressurize u to like laakhan? or ship laakham? I dont think so...everybody is just presenting their views on why "they" ship laakham..not "why u should ship them" - see the difference?!

and moral policing is not allowed, u cant force anyone to agree with ur view...or call out on others for being annoying and some other members here, who generalize "the whole of a forum" as some "backward regressively thinking society" - for heaven's sake its a fiction show..there is no need to blame the members or name call them or generalize them..so what if its all about chemistry, dynamics and potential interest in storyline?

whether we find the dynamics interesting - thats our business - not urs...!

u can ship priyom-punmy - who stopped u? and why should u stop others from shipping laakham either? please care to explain?🥱

also there is more to THIS SHOW than just continuously gloating about three characters...there are more angles, more characters ...where there can be universal discussions..but sadly - this is what u want to keep pressing ur point on and intrude on..🥱

Originally posted by: Hiral_Halwa

arrey ma'am - sure lets be respectful...but there is a difference between "general discussions" and "wars" - where were the wars before - is what m asking u - stalking various threads and then just taking things out of context and putting it up in this thread itself is out of bounds.. just becoz there were more posts on laakham or discussions around them - does not mean there was a war?! infact everything was discussed giving full respect to other person's POV..and debated out...unlike the way it is being presented in this thread...

these are ur lines from the post on the first page - and they dont come under the scanner of giving respect to other member's POV either or peaceful discussion either..rather accordingly to my POV this looks like forcing ur view or calling out on other's opinion...which is not as per IF code of conduct either

"Little annoyed to see the ship wars have also begun in this forum."

"I am a little astonished that people really ship Poonam with Lakhan"

"I don't understand why people are blaming Poonam that she doesn't take an initiative to understand Lakhan..."

"Some of us who don't support Lakhan are surprised to see why a man like Lakhan is supported by many..."why because people want to see his 'interesting' dynamic with Poonam?..why because he is manipulated and it's not his fault? why because he loves Poonam and there is no harm in following a girl to her college? why because he is protective of Poonam?...

"Many Lakhan supporters say they want Poonam to redeem lakhan which should not be the case."

^^ is this not forcing ur opinion/ view, and calling out others? - these kind of statements are sure shot ways of getting a response and turning a thread into a war...bash the character for all I care..I myself called out on laakhan for what he did in the sari shop...but who gave u the right to judge and question what specifically "laakhan supporters, people who ship laakham" think? it is better to present ur POV, and stop judging others by ur yardstick..rest the Mod will take care of, if it has crossed the line..