In a moment...Just some questions

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Posted: 18 years ago
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It was just a moment, in which two broken people sought each other. Vidya, because she has been forgotten by the one person she loves. Saagar, because he's lost two years of his life, and tied in a marriage he doesn't find compatible.

Saagar's problem seems less dire and heartbreaking than Vidya's, I agree. Vidya has sacrificed two years of her life living with someone, who was claimed mad by the world.

I've read multiple posts, many of them angry at Saagar's behavior for having used Vidya, and calling what happened between them a mistake. I have a few thoughts regarding the matter but I'm going to ask you guys a few questions first.

I know this might seem a little redundant, but I'd love to see your responses, and hope you will take the time to respond (if it isn't a bother).

1. Saagar decides to separate from Vidya on Sindoora's insistence that them being together will keep them both unhappy. Saagar also sees Vidya crying and hurt as much as himself. Do you think that Saagar's reason to separate is completely selfish? Or does he really believe that since Vidya and him are two different people they will be happier apart? Does he do it for Vidya's happiness too, or does he care only for his freedom and happiness? Or does he have a different motive altogether?

2. In the night scene they show Saagar hesitantly comforting Vidya. What do you think Saagar feels at that moment? Do you think what happened between Saagar & Vidya was a moment of lust on Saagar's part? Or love on Saagar's part? Or possibly both?

3. The scene doesn't show Saagar kissing Vidya like we all wanted to happen. Does this mean that what between Saagar and Vidya was more an emotional connection rather than an act of love? Or both? Does It imply different things to Vidya, and different to Saagar? Or Same to both?

4. When Saagar gets up he looks at Vidya and smiles, and is truly happy till the implication of what happened strikes him. He feels that what happened between them is a mistake, and blames himself continuously. Do you think blames himself for leading Vidya on, because he knows that she loves him? Or do you think he blames himself for not having any control over his emotions? Or both? Or do you think Saagar is confused and doesn't now what to feel?

5. Saagar tells Vidya that he isn't as good as her, that she has no faults in her, and that he could never be as good as her. The reason he wants to separate is because they are just do not have any compatibility. He feels that the person Vidya loved was a different person, whereas Vidya feels that even though he has changed in thoughts, and demeanor, he is the same person she fell in love with. Do you think Saagar's feelings are valid? That trying to make a relationship work that is bound to fail is not fair to Vidya or Saagar? Or do you think Vidya's feelings are valid? Or are both right from their point of view?

6. Saagar tells Vidya it will be wrong for her to change because then she isn't being true to herself. Is it wrong for Vidya to want to change herself? Becoming educated is different than giving up your tradition and values. Is it really hard for two people with different set of values to form a relationship? Or once you love someone you can compromise some of your values? Do you think Saagar will meet Vidya halfway?

I know there are a lot of questions, and I hate to be a bother, but I hope you take the time to answer them…

Thanks,

Wafah

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Those are really great questions-i will reply to each of them soon after some thought (they've got me thinking 😉 )😳
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Oh wow! Those are some great questions! Very true and good thinking for those. 👏 I also have to think about this too! I'll save this spot and answer. 😳
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Originally posted by: Wafah

It was just a moment, in which two broken people sought each other. Vidya, because she has been forgotten by the one person she loves. Saagar, because he's lost two years of his life, and tied in a marriage he doesn't find compatible.

Saagar's problem seems less dire and heartbreaking than Vidya's, I agree. Vidya has sacrificed two years of her life living with someone, who was claimed mad by the world.

I've read multiple posts, many of them angry at Saagar's behavior for having used Vidya, and calling what happened between them a mistake. I have a few thoughts regarding the matter but I'm going to ask you guys a few questions first.

I know this might seem a little redundant, but I'd love to see your responses, and hope you will take the time to respond (if it isn't a bother).

1. Saagar decides to separate from Vidya on Sindoora's insistence that them being together will keep them both unhappy. Saagar also sees Vidya crying and hurt as much as himself. Do you think that Saagar's reason to separate is completely selfish? I was thinking about that-but really he knows that Vidya loves him truly-and is willing to adjust to him as long as he accepts her. Or does he really believe that since Vidya and him are two different people they will be happier apart? I think that all this was put in Sagar's mind by Sindura-i mean all those embarrasing moments for sagar caused by vidya was set-up by sindura. Does he do it for Vidya's happiness too, or does he care only for his freedom and happiness? I think that he just thinks that since vidya is a traditional girl-he wont be able to lead his fast, modern lifestyle. Or does he have a different motive altogether? I don't know maybe...😕

2. In the night scene they show Saagar hesitantly comforting Vidya. What do you think Saagar feels at that moment? I don't know if it was infatuation or something else...but I'm pretty sure he had some feelings for her...wether it was sympathy or love. Do you think what happened between Saagar & Vidya was a moment of lust on Saagar's part? Or love on Saagar's part? Or possibly both? I think both...because he was not drunk that night and he did what he did in his full senses...so its probably a little love, a little lust

3. The scene doesn't show Saagar kissing Vidya like we all wanted to happen. Does this mean that what between Saagar and Vidya was more an emotional connection rather than an act of love? I like how you put that-I hoped it was emotionaly-but it seems not...😕Or both? Does It imply different things to Vidya, and different to Saagar? For Vidya it was the night she truly became sagar's dulhan...for sagar is was just a mistake...but inside maybe it was something else😉😳Or Same to both?

4. When Saagar gets up he looks at Vidya and smiles, and is truly happy till the implication of what happened strikes him. He feels that what happened between them is a mistake, and blames himself continuously. Do you think blames himself for leading Vidya on, because he knows that she loves him? I think that he was smiling because he is really in love with her-but doesnt want to admit it to himself. Or do you think he blames himself for not having any control over his emotions? That is possible-i think thats what it is. Or both? Or do you think Saagar is confused and doesn't now what to feel? He is definately confused-part of this confusion is caused by the brainwashing done by sindura😳

5. Saagar tells Vidya that he isn't as good as her, that she has no faults in her, and that he could never be as good as her. The reason he wants to separate is because they are just do not have any compatibility. He feels that the person Vidya loved was a different person, whereas Vidya feels that even though he has changed in thoughts, and demeanor, he is the same person she fell in love with. Do you think Saagar's feelings are valid? Yes, but he should also try to understand vidya's point of view-he is her husband, and for a traditional girl her husband is everything to her. That trying to make a relationship work that is bound to fail is not fair to Vidya or Saagar? Or do you think Vidya's feelings are valid? Or are both right from their point of view? I wouldn't say both are right-i think that sagar should just start realizing his feelings towards vidya without thinking about his family members or even listening to them...If its love sagar-then its love...if you love someone-thats all you need to be compatible...love can make you forget someone's lack-

6. Saagar tells Vidya it will be wrong for her to change because then she isn't being true to herself. Is it wrong for Vidya to want to change herself? YESS! because she is fine the way she is. I understand she wants to be like sagar's dream girl...but she shouldnt have to change herself-Becoming educated is different than giving up your tradition and values. That is definately true! education is important-so does that mean that if vidya were ever to be educated she wouldnt be as traditional?? i dont think so! Is it really hard for two people with different set of values to form a relationship? Or once you love someone you can compromise some of your values? In love, you gotta make sacrifices-but it should never be of ur values...sagar could learn to live with vidya's values if he loved her...he would respect them! Do you think Saagar will meet Vidya halfway? If he loved her...anything is possible...but i dont think he has to-its not like he is living an extremely modern lifestyle hanging out w/ girls all night, etc. etc...i think vidya is fine with his lifestyle-he just needs to understand and respect vidya's values...

I know there are a lot of questions, and I hate to be a bother, but I hope you take the time to answer them…They weren't a bother at all!😳 infact i enjoyed answering my views😛 ppl may not agree with me, or they may not understand what im saying-but this is just me stating my opinion😛 thanks for the great questions...really made me think😊

Thanks,

Wafah

-Nabihah

Edited by Nabihah - 18 years ago
ammmu thumbnail
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Wafah ji, what a great post, I'm answering them now but for some reason it's
not letting me quote posts... so i'll have to post my answers later. but those
are great questions, and I agree, that I can understand Sagar for doing all of
this because of his situation, but Vidya is definitely the one who is suffering
more, without a doubt...
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Posted: 18 years ago
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1. Saagar decides to separate from Vidya on Sindoora's insistence that them being together will keep them both unhappy. Saagar also sees Vidya crying and hurt as much as himself. Do you think that Saagar's reason to separate is completely selfish? Or does he really believe that since Vidya and him are two different people they will be happier apart? Does he do it for Vidya's happiness too, or does he care only for his freedom and happiness? Or does he have a different motive altogether?

Great question, personally, i think that saagars faisla was not selfish at all , although ppl might claim that he was selfish. He has carefully taken Vidyas condition and his and has carefully decided that they are not made for each other as he claims... kahan voh ek bada businessman aur kahan yeh ek anpad... but what is bothering me is that b4 he came to know that V is illiterate , he seemed completely fine with her , however afterwards, he changed his mind...now my point is that does being illiterate have such an impact to a relationship as opposed to love?



2. In the night scene they show Saagar hesitantly comforting Vidya. What do you think Saagar feels at that moment? Do you think what happened between Saagar & Vidya was a moment of lust on Saagar's part? Or love on Saagar's part? Or possibly both?

That moment which we SVians cherish till date was , in my opinion , compared to the sun's strength draining from the sky during sunset, as for saaagrs part, it might seem to be a bit confusing but i believe he comforted her whether by love or lust , it was not by pity . he was really touched by her words (as he always is) therefore, found a nice way to comfort her



3. The scene doesn't show Saagar kissing Vidya like we all wanted to happen. Does this mean that what between Saagar and Vidya was more an emotional connection rather than an act of love? Or both? Does It imply different things to Vidya, and different to Saagar? Or Same to both?

I have no idea...this question is a real brain teaser, kudos to u wafah ji!! i think it was more of an emotional bonding period rather than physical where 2 souls undertood each others love and fourmulated an emotional connection



4. When Saagar gets up he looks at Vidya and smiles, and is truly happy till the implication of what happened strikes him. He feels that what happened between them is a mistake, and blames himself continuously. Do you think blames himself for leading Vidya on, because he knows that she loves him? Or do you think he blames himself for not having any control over his emotions? Or both? Or do you think Saagar is confused and doesn't now what to feel?

actually, i think he feels confused, trapped, and just all over the place, he smiles because of her innocense , purity and truthfulness anf naiveity ... and he is droned in the tide of guilt when he remembers the night where he confessed his love or whatever u want to call it to her ..what really is wandering in my brain is that is this love or responsibllity towards a relationship?


5. Saagar tells Vidya that he isn't as good as her, that she has no faults in her, and that he could never be as good as her. The reason he wants to separate is because they are just do not have any compatibility. He feels that the person Vidya loved was a different person, whereas Vidya feels that even though he has changed in thoughts, and demeanor, he is the same person she fell in love with. Do you think Saagar's feelings are valid? That trying to make a relationship work that is bound to fail is not fair to Vidya or Saagar? Or do you think Vidya's feelings are valid? Or are both right from their point of view?
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It is not fair to both of them . i do give saaagr props for giving the relationship a chance...but how long did he allow it to have a chance, as far as i know ...there was nothing between them ,, except that promo stuff ...i agree with Vidyas thoughts abt a person changing but she obviously should not rely or her theory to the extent that it gets her in deep trauma.


i enjoyed answering those questions wafah! thanks for aiding my boredom! 😳



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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nabihah

It was just a moment, in which two broken people sought each other. Vidya, because she has been forgotten by the one person she loves. Saagar, because he's lost two years of his life, and tied in a marriage he doesn't find compatible.

Saagar's problem seems less dire and heartbreaking than Vidya's, I agree. Vidya has sacrificed two years of her life living with someone, who was claimed mad by the world.

I've read multiple posts, many of them angry at Saagar's behavior for having used Vidya, and calling what happened between them a mistake. I have a few thoughts regarding the matter but I'm going to ask you guys a few questions first.

I know this might seem a little redundant, but I'd love to see your responses, and hope you will take the time to respond (if it isn't a bother).

1. Saagar decides to separate from Vidya on Sindoora's insistence that them being together will keep them both unhappy. Saagar also sees Vidya crying and hurt as much as himself. Do you think that Saagar's reason to separate is completely selfish? I was thinking about that-but really he knows that Vidya loves him truly-and is willing to adjust to him as long as he accepts her. Or does he really believe that since Vidya and him are two different people they will be happier apart? I think that all this was put in Sagar's mind by Sindura-i mean all those embarrasing moments for sagar caused by vidya was set-up by sindura. Does he do it for Vidya's happiness too, or does he care only for his freedom and happiness? I think that he just thinks that since vidya is a traditional girl-he wont be able to lead his fast, modern lifestyle. Or does he have a different motive altogether? I don't know maybe...😕

2. In the night scene they show Saagar hesitantly comforting Vidya. What do you think Saagar feels at that moment? I don't know if it was infatuation or something else...but I'm pretty sure he had some feelings for her...wether it was sympathy or love. Do you think what happened between Saagar & Vidya was a moment of lust on Saagar's part? Or love on Saagar's part? Or possibly both? I think both...because he was not drunk that night and he did what he did in his full senses...so its probably a little love, a little lust

3. The scene doesn't show Saagar kissing Vidya like we all wanted to happen. Does this mean that what between Saagar and Vidya was more an emotional connection rather than an act of love? I like how you put that-I hoped it was emotionaly-but it seems not...😕Or both? Does It imply different things to Vidya, and different to Saagar? For Vidya it was the night she truly became sagar's dulhan...for sagar is was just a mistake...but inside maybe it was something else😉😳Or Same to both?

4. When Saagar gets up he looks at Vidya and smiles, and is truly happy till the implication of what happened strikes him. He feels that what happened between them is a mistake, and blames himself continuously. Do you think blames himself for leading Vidya on, because he knows that she loves him? I think that he was smiling because he is really in love with her-but doesnt want to admit it to himself. Or do you think he blames himself for not having any control over his emotions? That is possible-i think thats what it is. Or both? Or do you think Saagar is confused and doesn't now what to feel? He is definately confused-part of this confusion is caused by the brainwashing done by sindura😳

5. Saagar tells Vidya that he isn't as good as her, that she has no faults in her, and that he could never be as good as her. The reason he wants to separate is because they are just do not have any compatibility. He feels that the person Vidya loved was a different person, whereas Vidya feels that even though he has changed in thoughts, and demeanor, he is the same person she fell in love with. Do you think Saagar's feelings are valid? Yes, but he should also try to understand vidya's point of view-he is her husband, and for a traditional girl her husband is everything to her. That trying to make a relationship work that is bound to fail is not fair to Vidya or Saagar? Or do you think Vidya's feelings are valid? Or are both right from their point of view? I wouldn't say both are right-i think that sagar should just start realizing his feelings towards vidya without thinking about his family members or even listening to them...If its love sagar-then its love...if you love someone-thats all you need to be compatible...love can make you forget someone's lack-

6. Saagar tells Vidya it will be wrong for her to change because then she isn't being true to herself. Is it wrong for Vidya to want to change herself? YESS! because she is fine the way she is. I understand she wants to be like sagar's dream girl...but she shouldnt have to change herself-Becoming educated is different than giving up your tradition and values. That is definately true! education is important-so does that mean that if vidya were ever to be educated she wouldnt be as traditional?? i dont think so! Is it really hard for two people with different set of values to form a relationship? Or once you love someone you can compromise some of your values? In love, you gotta make sacrifices-but it should never be of ur values...sagar could learn to live with vidya's values if he loved her...he would respect them! Do you think Saagar will meet Vidya halfway? If he loved her...anything is possible...but i dont think he has to-its not like he is living an extremely modern lifestyle hanging out w/ girls all night, etc. etc...i think vidya is fine with his lifestyle-he just needs to understand and respect vidya's values...

I know there are a lot of questions, and I hate to be a bother, but I hope you take the time to answer them…They weren't a bother at all!😳 infact i enjoyed answering my views😛 ppl may not agree with me, or they may not understand what im saying-but this is just me stating my opinion😛 thanks for the great questions...really made me think😊

Thanks,

Wafah

-Nabihah

Thanks for replying Nabihah....I also feel that Saagar is currently confused on what he feels. What I believe is that he calls it a mistake because he feels that now he has forced their relationship. I don't think he loves Vidya, or realizes that as of yet, but he has deep feelings for her. To him Vidya is as much of an enigma as his past is, and he is confused by his feelings...(Ofcourse Sindoora doesn't help...she only adds more fuel to the fire.)

Again thanks for replying. I loved hearing your opinions...

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: noodles

Oh wow! Those are some great questions! Very true and good thinking for those. 👏 I also have to think about this too! I'll save this spot and answer. 😳

Looking forward to your response 😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: ammmu

Wafah ji, what a great post, I'm answering them now but for some reason it's
not letting me quote posts... so i'll have to post my answers later. but those
are great questions, and I agree, that I can understand Sagar for doing all of
this because of his situation, but Vidya is definitely the one who is suffering
more, without a doubt...

I agree that Vidya's the one getting hurt even though Saagar's intentions aren't completely out of place.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Wafah

Looking forward to your response 😊

Yes I'll think and reply in morning as it's so late here and I want to answer this properly!😳😊 Thankoo.

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