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Posted: 9 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: divyababu


Well, this daughter is one step ahead of mother! her ex-husband is not just ex-husband but almost a rapist and she now lives with that monster! 🤪


The daughter is dumber than the mother... we used to call anandi dumb, but nimboli seems to have broken her record.


The girl who was so so smart as a child, who quietly followed mangala when she was going to meet vidhayaksa and who saved the life of the girl who was about to be sacrificed, has suddenly lost her smartness.

She marries a young boy who is about 8 yrs younger than her and whom she knew for barely 2 months, this is a sign of extreme desperation.

The writers have lost their mental stability I guess.🤢

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Posted: 9 years ago
#22
calm down people!!!
From the time Mangala's BH saga started , we could see the story going haywire. The way they finished off Anandi abruptly without showing why the police/ hospital/ kids didnt even attempt to reach out to a MLA - doctor Jagya - you know what to expect. And Kundan knows where Nandini is but Jagya couldnt trace them with all his power

They are just continuing the illogical story from there and come up with all kind of nonsense. Which current day educated woman will marry without finding out anything about her hubby or family .. She is not shown as a desperate destitute woman whose only escape is marriage.

Its all about our own expectation management - I have stopped expecting anything sensible from this post leap and hence dont feel outraged anymore with this story

As a loyal BV fan, keep coming to this forum and get more upset at the way its going :)

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Posted: 9 years ago
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@esha, your logic would have made sense if she was living in the house built by the ex and shared it only with him and his present (e.g. the Mumbai house). But the said house belonged to DS, Bhairon and Sumi first, who considered her as their own daughter. Yes, she was the DAUGHTER of the house. I am watching 2012 episodes these days. Those episodes very beautifully and subtly depict her journey from daughter in law of Singhs to their daughter while she was still emotionally attached to her biological parents and kept mourning for them, how DS cared for her as her own grandchild rather than just beendni of her ladesar, how Sumi considered her to be her own daughter just like Sugna, how Bhairo used to be genuinely worried for her like he would have been for his own kids, and how they married her off to Shiv like daughter of the house would have deserved. So, that relationship definitely should NOT change just because she got married to someone else or their son repented and came back to them.

I am not justifying any action of CVs, I still consider it as worst move by them in Anandi's story. There were n other options available to them which were logical. But this doesn't make Anandi dependent on her ex for me.

PS: It looks like here the exes have moved on from the 'intimate' relationship long back but the viewers haven't 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: russhmeSS

@esha, your logic would have made sense if she was living in the house built by the ex and shared it only with him and his present (e.g. the Mumbai house). But the said house belonged to DS, Bhairon and Sumi first, who considered her as their own daughter. Yes, she was the DAUGHTER of the house. I am watching 2012 episodes these days. Those episodes very beautifully and subtly depict her journey from daughter in law of Singhs to their daughter while she was still emotionally attached to her biological parents and kept mourning for them, how DS cared for her as her own grandchild rather than just beendni of her ladesar, how Sumi considered her to be her own daughter just like Sugna, how Bhairo used to be genuinely worried for her like he would have been for his own kids, and how they married her off to Shiv like daughter of the house would have deserved. So, that relationship definitely should NOT change just because she got married to someone else or their son repented and came back to them.

I am not justifying any action of CVs, I still consider it as worst move by them in Anandi's story. There were n other options available to them which were logical. But this doesn't make Anandi dependent on her ex for me.

PS: It looks like here the exes have moved on from the 'intimate' relationship long back but the viewers haven't 😆

Russhme, personally for me this is not a socially acceptable arrangement, regardless of whether that house belonged to Dsa or to Jagya or Bhairon.
Anandi had a rightful place of her own and Jagya had his. But it is Anandi who moved to where Jagya rightfully lived, which is equivalent to "moving to jagya's house"

I know of a similar real-life situation. A woman ( mother of a two years old child) lost her her husband, when she was in her mid-twenties. Her in-laws thought of getting her re-married (treating her like their own daughter). Unfortunately, her second marriage didn't last for more than a month and she was divorced.

Now, just because of the second marriage, she lost her place and identity in her first sasural. Earlier, she was treated as a widowed bahu but now, she was neither a beti, nor a bahu, nor a stranger / guest.
While her son had all rights on his former grandparents, this lady had no rights on her former in-laws. She even had to change her surname back to her maiden name. The very people who loved her and treated her as DIL turned daughter, were now not in a position to give any social or legal recognition to this lady in their house/ family. Although they looked after her financially and supported her to live her life, they could no longer address her as either their bahu or beti.

So was Anandi's situation. While BH folks loved her and treated her as a daughter, Anandi had no social or legal recognition in SIngh parivaar post 11 years leap. She was neither their widowed daughter nor their former bahu. in fact she was nothing more than a beneficiary of that house. But for Jagya, that was his rightful home and parivaar. The society recognised him as a son of Singh parivaar.

So firstly, Anandi moving back to Dsa's house, despite having two houses and a parivaar of her own, was wrong.

Secondly, moving into the same house where her Ex-husband rightfully lived was even more wrong. It was already complicated.

And finally, living there forever and even teaching Nandini that she is the beti of this house, was just completely incorrect.

And as for Ganga, she had to put up with a lot in terms of her space and privacy because of Anandi's close promixity in their lives.

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As for people moving from "Intimate" relationship: Well, it is one of the most sensitive and complicated relationships of all the relationships ever. If intimacy didn't matter and if moving on was so easy and not hurtful, then Anandi too could have accepted Jagya, after he left Gauri.
But because a woman never wants to share her man with any other woman (and since intimacy matters), she finds it very hard to forgive her man.

Then how is it justified that when the same woman is in need, she doesn't hesitate taking endless support from her ex, disregarding emotions for her own deceased husband, as well as her Ex's current wife?

I don't think, anything can justify Anandi's stay in the same roof as Jagya's, as acceptable.




Edited by Missesha - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: russhmeSS

@esha, your logic would have made sense if she was living in the house built by the ex and shared it only with him and his present (e.g. the Mumbai house). But the said house belonged to DS, Bhairon and Sumi first, who considered her as their own daughter. Yes, she was the DAUGHTER of the house. I am watching 2012 episodes these days. Those episodes very beautifully and subtly depict her journey from daughter in law of Singhs to their daughter while she was still emotionally attached to her biological parents and kept mourning for them, how DS cared for her as her own grandchild rather than just beendni of her ladesar, how Sumi considered her to be her own daughter just like Sugna, how Bhairo used to be genuinely worried for her like he would have been for his own kids, and how they married her off to Shiv like daughter of the house would have deserved. So, that relationship definitely should NOT change just because she got married to someone else or their son repented and came back to them.

I am not justifying any action of CVs, I still consider it as worst move by them in Anandi's story. There were n other options available to them which were logical. But this doesn't make Anandi dependent on her ex for me.

PS: It looks like here the exes have moved on from the 'intimate' relationship long back but the viewers haven't 😆

You put it well Russhme.
I wanted Anandi in a nuclear family while Shiv was there as well as after Shiv's death.
That was the reason why I wanted Anandi to live in SN and not because it was inappropriate for her to stay in BH.
Anandi was staying in BH with the rights of a daughter given by both Dsa as well as Sumi and Bhairon.
Her position in BH was not dependent on her EX and his current.

She was not living with her Ex and his current nor was she financially emotionally dependent on her Ex.If at all she looked upto J it was with the rights of a friend and nothing else. She would have done all that J had done for her if the positions had been reversed.
J and she had been friends first then they became husband and wife in real sense.After the failed marriage and the bitterness subsided they were back to being best friends.

Comparisons with Nandini's entry into Kundan's house and Anandi's return to BH is not right.

In fact Nandini's entry into Kundan's home is more comparable to Gauri's entry into Singh's family through her marriage with J.Unfortunately for Gauri both her marriages with J were illegal where as Nandini's marriage with Kundan was made null and void while her marriage to Krish is legal and it was an adult choice even though it was a bad choice.

Anandi's rights to stay in BH were given by Dsa.Nandini's rights are legal because she is Krish's legal wife.I think that home belonged to Krish's mother and not Kundan.

Anandi's relationship with Singhs was something unconventional but there were only positive feelings towards each other in Anandi's case. There was love respect and trust on both sides where as in Nandini and Akheraj and Co's case it is totally opposite.

Story and performances suck big time but the fact is if Nandini had known that Krish is connected to Kundan in some way she wouldn't have married him.If there is anything wrong on part of Nandini it is that she didn't do background check on the fellow she married in haste.

Anandi and Nandini put their child marriages behind and moved on to their adult partners but like you said the viewers haven't moved on.😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: aparnauma


Anandi and Nandini put their child marriages behind and moved on to their adult partners but like you said the viewers haven't moved on.😆

Well, because there is no reason to move on. Just because someone stupidly jumps into a well, but gets saved, doesn't mean Jumping a well is a good idea 😛😆

Anandi forcefully dumping herself and her baggage on her Ex, doesn't mean living with one's Ex is acceptable or can be endorsed. 😛
Edited by Missesha - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: Missesha

Well, because there is no reason to move on. Just because someone stupidly jumps into a well, but gets saved, doesn't mean Jumping a well is a good idea 😛😆


Anandi forcefully dumping herself and her baggage on her Ex, doesn't mean living with one's Ex is acceptable or can be endorsed. 😛


Actually by any stretch of logic/ imagination and in any society , its very strange to go back and stay in your ex sasural with your child from subsequent marriage, whatever may be the relationship change from DIL to daughter. And esp when she is perfectly capable of staying alone in the same village and be near them for any support she may need or they may want.

That is what most of us are not able to move on with , Aparna. Yes it is not fair to compare what nandini did now with Anandi, the two are very different situations.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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I don't want to get into any discussions on that.
It is about how people look at things and what they want to make out of it.

Same object when shown to different people it is perceived differently and it is solely dependent on the workings of the mind and how the mind interprets the input that it received from what the eyes have seen the ears have heard.

I don't want to go in there again.




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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: kase


Actually by any stretch of logic/ imagination and in any society , its very strange to go back and stay in your ex sasural with your child from subsequent marriage, whatever may be the relationship change from DIL to daughter. And esp when she is perfectly capable of staying alone in the same village and be near them for any support she may need or they may want.

That is what most of us are not able to move on with , Aparna. Yes it is not fair to compare what nandini did now with Anandi, the two are very different situations.


Just because something is not a norm according to the society that doesn't make it wrong.

For me the move was not liked because I wanted to see the single mother,it gave Dsa a chance to interfere in her life and not because I thought that move was inappropriate.




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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Missesha

Russhme, personally for me this is not a socially acceptable arrangement, regardless of whether that house belonged to Dsa or to Jagya or Bhairon.

Anandi had a rightful place of her own and Jagya had his. But it is Anandi who moved to where Jagya rightfully lived, which is equivalent to "moving to jagya's house"

I know of a similar real-life situation. A woman ( mother of a two years old child) lost her her husband, when she was in her mid-twenties. Her in-laws thought of getting her re-married (treating her like their own daughter). Unfortunately, her second marriage didn't last for more than a month and she was divorced.

Now, just because of the second marriage, she lost her place and identity in her first sasural. Earlier, she was treated as a widowed bahu but now, she was neither a beti, nor a bahu, nor a stranger / guest.
While her son had all rights on his former grandparents, this lady had no rights on her former in-laws. She even had to change her surname back to her maiden name. The very people who loved her and treated her as DIL turned daughter, were now not in a position to give any social or legal recognition to this lady in their house/ family. Although they looked after her financially and supported her to live her life, they could no longer address her as either their bahu or beti.

So was Anandi's situation. While BH folks loved her and treated her as a daughter, Anandi had no social or legal recognition in SIngh parivaar post 11 years leap. She was neither their widowed daughter nor their former bahu. in fact she was nothing more than a beneficiary of that house. But for Jagya, that was his rightful home and parivaar. The society recognised him as a son of Singh parivaar.

So firstly, Anandi moving back to Dsa's house, despite having two houses and a parivaar of her own, was wrong.

Secondly, moving into the same house where her Ex-husband rightfully lived was even more wrong. It was already complicated.

And finally, living there forever and even teaching Nandini that she is the beti of this house, was just completely incorrect.

And as for Ganga, she had to put up with a lot in terms of her space and privacy because of Anandi's close promixity in their lives.

-----

As for people moving from "Intimate" relationship: Well, it is one of the most sensitive and complicated relationships of all the relationships ever. If intimacy didn't matter and if moving on was so easy and not hurtful, then Anandi too could have accepted Jagya, after he left Gauri.
But because a woman never wants to share her man with any other woman (and since intimacy matters), she finds it very hard to forgive her man.

Then how is it justified that when the same woman is in need, she doesn't hesitate taking endless support from her ex, disregarding emotions for her own deceased husband, as well as her Ex's current wife?

I don't think, anything can justify Anandi's stay in the same roof as Jagya's, as acceptable.




The intimacy comment was related to some other post.
Yes, moving on was not easy. I didn't claim that. Yes, it took long time for Anandi to move on. But once she moved on, she never looked back. Same was the case with Jagya. So the intimacy was never a problem for them after they moved on with their respective partners.

When Jagya came back to Anandi leaving Gauri, she was already committed to Shiv. Though she was in zombie state, she was very clear about one thing that she will never let down Shiv and his family and stick to the relationship irrespective of the circumstances in which she got into it. So there was no question of accepting Jagya back as her partner. Not accepting Jagya had nothing to do with intimacy.

Can't comment anything on the situation that you shared, because I have no insight into the background or circumstances. But I don't see any reason why marriage should affect status of any girl as daughter in her house, even if the she is daughter-in-law turned daughter. More than how society looks at such relationships, it is about how you look at your own relationships. Probably in Anandi and Singh's case CVs wanted it to go that way. They didn't feel that Anandi lost her status as daughter in the house after all these years.
Edited by russhmeSS - 9 years ago

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