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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Shinya


yes, finally he is killed by jagya.

Anandi again ran like a chicken with her two kids... Why could she not stay where others were especially where jagya and ganga were ?



U have only seen her running like a chicken which is very natural in such cases.

But along with it I have also seen how she snatched the revolver and strike back like a tigress


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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: hisusmita



Yes, bus in desert case if he would have seen properly or atleast without proper checking not confirmed him dead Akhi would not have escaped nothing would have happened, neither DS not A had to die.



I agree on that.

At that time, we had already pointed out on how a doctor neglected doing post mortem, and why didn't it click to him that vultures will only pounce on decayed body and not a fresh dead body. We had also pointed police's lapse on not doing post mortem.

The best part then was, everybody agreed and moved on.

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When Anandi had lost her child, many sympathised, even though they thought it was her fault. However, her flaws were majorly pointed post leap, when 11 years had passed and she had not found her daughter. Moreover she had lost her daughter in Udaipur and was spending a comfortable life in BH. A mother who has lost her child 11 years back is busy in everyone's affair except finding her daughter.

And what's worse? In Anandi's defence people supported CVs saying "so what if CVs have not shown her searching, we have to assume she has."

Well, why assume? When CVs can show endless hugs of Anandi- Nandini, and Anandi carrying trays in Saachi days, they can also show Anandi's search a bit more in detail.

If they have not shown, then it is safe to assume, that Anandi was quite laid back as far as searching N was concerned. And this is exactly, what she is being criticised for.


Edited by Missesha - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
moreover this time a opponent of MLA i.e anoder politician is also supporting akhi so hes hiding & no1 is able 2 catch him.
i don't know how ppl can compare this wid A's not telling abt akhi's face 2 cops at jaitser wen she again saw Ak.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Missesha

I agree on that.

At that time, we had already pointed out on how a doctor neglected doing a post mortem, and why didn't it click to him that vultures will only pounce on decayed body and not a fresh dead body. We had also pointed police's lap on doing post mortem.

The best part then was, everybody agreed and moved on.

------

When Anandi had lost her child, many sympathised, even though they thought it was her fault. However, her flaws were majorly pointed post leap, when 11 years had passed and she had not found her daughter. Moreover she had lost her daughter in Udaipur and was spending a comfortable life in BH. A mother who has lost her child 11 years back is busy in everyone's affair except finding her daughter.

And what's worse? In Anandi's defence people supported CVs saying "so what if CVs have not shown her searching, we have to assume she has."

Well, why assume? When CVs can show endless hugs of Anandi- Nandini, and Anandi carrying trays in Saachi days, they can also show Anandi's search a bit more in detail.

If they have not shown, then it is safe to assume, that Anandi was quite laid back as far as searching N was concerned. And this is exactly, what she is being criticised for.




She has not lost her daughter in Udaipur. It is some other place. She went there with Sarita but all of her family members fled away.

When kidnapping or any such thing happens , it is not possible to sit there.One has to return back to one's place . It is not possible for any civilian to find a baby who cant talk and when except the description didnt have any clue.

She had already given the description to police. It is the job of the police. She had to followup.

11 years who has done what has not been shown. But they have shown before and after leap that she is following up, running there if she gets any clue, she is talking to J.

Obviously , J was also not sitting quietly. Police WAS definitely searching as the case is related to MLA

Post leap the story is about mannu Puja teen pregnancy and intro of the new characters. So that has been shown extensively.

trust me I would have been the happiest if they would have shown only A.

The story is she will not get her , so it has to be like that, If it is so it was same police, same administration.Now also I am telling the story is like that so it will go like that.

Why we have to assume.? Preleap , post leap it has been shown.

Did they show how M took care of N? But we are assuming she must have taken care as they have shown 2,3 scenes of her taking care

Same way it is not possible that Anandi has not searched. 2,3 instances are enough to say for the story that she was doing, They will not show everyday.

Endless hugs were shown when her track started.

She has not shown remembering Shiv , does that mean she forgot Shiv?

At the end they proved how much she remembered Shiv
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Posted: 9 years ago
@ Sushmita - if the story had to be like that then the story had to be presented in a logical way.


Cvs can't make a character act stupid, or out of character and then expect us to buy that story or to empathise with that character.

I couldn't empathise with Anandi throughout the post leap season, because logics were not in place. Her flaws were loud and clear for them to be overlooked and empathised with.

Point is, Cvs are very capable to show a well designed story with it's logics in place. And if they cannot, they will be criticised through the criticism of their character.

There is no reason why Cvs cannot adjust a couple a sensible episodes for their leads. And if they didn't so, they either deliberately wanted their lead to appear dumb, or their lead was nothing more than standby in their own eyes.

When CVs can't care enough for their lead and when the actor playing Anandi herself feels the drag, why can't normal viewers like us point out the same?

Toral herself says, Anandi is not practical (an interview a while back). but we say that, we receive endless defense for Anandi. Why?

Both you and I are disappointed that CVs didn't show us Anandi's life as promised. Then why are you still supporting CVs, and even justifying those actions of Anandi, by assuming that "she must have done her part?"


p.s. no offence intended towards you. I am not intending to question your choices. I am just trying to discuss, why is one character of CVs, so much defended, when CVs themselves are taking us viewers for granted, by ruining their own creation called Anandi.


Edited by Missesha - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Missesha

@ Sushmita - if the story had to be like that then the story had to be presented in a logical way.



Cvs can't make a character act stupid, or out of character and then expect us to buy that story or to empathise with that character.

I couldn't empathise with Anandi throughout the post leap season, because logics were not in place. Her flaws were loud and clear for them to be overlooked and empathised with.

Point is, Cvs are very capable to show a well designed story with it's logics in place. And if they cannot, they will be criticised through the criticism of their character.

There is no reason why Cvs cannot adjust a couple a sensible episodes for their leads. And if they didn't so, they either deliberately wanted their lead to appear dumb, or their lead was nothing more than standby in their own eyes.

When CVs can't care enough for their lead and when the actor playing Anandi herself feels the drag, why can't normal viewers like us point out the same?

Toral herself says, Anandi is not practical (an interview a while back). but we say that, we receive endless defense for Anandi. Why?

Both you and I are disappointed that CVs didn't show us Anandi's life as promised. Then why are you still supporting CVs, and even justifying those actions of Anandi, by assuming that "she must have done her part?"


p.s. no offence intended towards you. I am not intending to question your choices. I am just trying to discuss, why is one character of CVs, so much defended, when CVs themselves are taking us viewers for granted, by ruining their own creation called Anandi.




Esha, I know what I am watching. How much logic can I expect. Moreover Anandi is an established character, They have shown her life extensively. So after 8 years if they want to develop other characters and for that they keep A 's action limited does that change her nature?

It's not defending CVs

When I know it is not in my hand what's the point watching it and complaining?

Has any replacement, anything changed for that?

But we have seen a beautiful story thru these CVs too. Just because they had only 3 months time to develop Jhalra characters so they have to keep A 's action limited.

But knowing A how can you think that she is a mother who intentionally lost her child?
Can you imagine she will not search her daughter.

How much you have seen M? But you can assume that she has changed N's nappy

I told you I would have been happy if they would have shown A only. But is it in my hand? No.

But then knowing the character A so well why would I think that she has forgot her daughter, lost her daughter intentionally?


Edited by hisusmita - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: hisusmita


She has not lost her daughter in Udaipur. It is some other place. She went there with Sarita but all of her family members fled away.

When kidnapping or any such thing happens , it is not possible to sit there.One has to return back to one's place . It is not possible for any civilian to find a baby who cant talk and when except the description didnt have any clue.

She had already given the description to police. It is the job of the police. She had to followup.

11 years who has done what has not been shown. But they have shown before and after leap that she is following up, running there if she gets any clue, she is talking to J.

Obviously , J was also not sitting quietly. Police WAS definitely searching as the case is related to MLA

Post leap the story is about mannu Puja teen pregnancy and intro of the new characters. So that has been shown extensively.

trust me I would have been the happiest if they would have shown only A.

The story is she will not get her , so it has to be like that, If it is so it was same police, same administration.Now also I am telling the story is like that so it will go like that.

Why we have to assume.? Preleap , post leap it has been shown.

Did they show how M took care of N? But we are assuming she must have taken care as they have shown 2,3 scenes of her taking care


Same way it is not possible that Anandi has not searched. 2,3 instances are enough to say for the story that she was doing, They will not show everyday.

Endless hugs were shown when her track started.

She has not shown remembering Shiv , does that mean she forgot Shiv?

At the end they proved how much she remembered Shiv


Whenever anyone says anandi did not search for her daughter, M's topic has to show its face 😆... How can anandi's actions be justified if M does not come in the argument?


Anyway, we have seen post leap what mangala did for the child, how she kept her alive and how she loved her and listened to her, how she played with her.

on the basis of those evidences, we know mangala looked after her for 11 long years... we are not assuming it. And even if we are assuming, those are not baseless assumptions.

But to assume that anandi was searching for her daughter , when all that we were shown was anandi teaching karate and some other irrelevant work, is a baseless assumption.




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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Missesha

@ Sushmita - if the story had to be like that then the story had to be presented in a logical way.



Cvs can't make a character act stupid, or out of character and then expect us to buy that story or to empathise with that character.

I couldn't empathise with Anandi throughout the post leap season, because logics were not in place. Her flaws were loud and clear for them to be overlooked and empathised with.

Point is, Cvs are very capable to show a well designed story with it's logics in place. And if they cannot, they will be criticised through the criticism of their character.

There is no reason why Cvs cannot adjust a couple a sensible episodes for their leads. And if they didn't so, they either deliberately wanted their lead to appear dumb, or their lead was nothing more than standby in their own eyes.

When CVs can't care enough for their lead and when the actor playing Anandi herself feels the drag, why can't normal viewers like us point out the same?

Toral herself says, Anandi is not practical (an interview a while back). but we say that, we receive endless defense for Anandi. Why?

Both you and I are disappointed that CVs didn't show us Anandi's life as promised. Then why are you still supporting CVs, and even justifying those actions of Anandi, by assuming that "she must have done her part?"


p.s. no offence intended towards you. I am not intending to question your choices. I am just trying to discuss, why is one character of CVs, so much defended, when CVs themselves are taking us viewers for granted, by ruining their own creation called Anandi.



@bold - there cannot be any justification to defend whatever is shown through this one character. Anandi was not made dumb to develop Jhalra characters - just like they could show both Bhairo and Shyam as mature and good character, just like they did not destroyed BH people to develop character of Shiv - actually, there was no need to make Anandi do whatever she did since that day when she met Sarita. The kidnapping could be done by some unknown person - then it would have been so easy to believe that Anandi could not find her daughter all these years. Or even if Anandi had seen Akheraj - his get-up could have been changed just like he became mauni baba. He could have been shown living in some far away place - where even Rajasthan police would find difficult to search etc. The story of BV.2 had so many bloopers and illogical elements - and the flaws were more visible in case of Anandi - more so because she is the lead.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Shinya


Whenever anyone says anandi did not search for her daughter, M's topic has to show its face 😆... How can anandi's actions be justified if M does not come in the argument?


Anyway, we have seen post leap what mangala did for the child, how she kept her alive and how she loved her and listened to her, how she played with her.

on the basis of those evidences, we know mangala looked after her for 11 long years... we are not assuming it. And even if we are assuming, those are not baseless assumptions.

But to assume that anandi was searching for her daughter , when all that we were shown was anandi teaching karate and some other irrelevant work, is a baseless assumption.


M has to be brought 😆. For me it is simple - a three months old child cannot survive on its own - someone has to take care and the child will be more close to that one person than everyone else. Nimboli was close to M and M even kept the child's clothes safe - that is enough indication who took care.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: hisusmita



U have only seen her running like a chicken which is very natural in such cases.

But along with it I have also seen how she snatched the revolver and strike back like a tigress



I have seen that but I dont feel like appreciating it because it did not help her in anyway.

She died in the end and akhi was not killed by her but by jagya.

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