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aparnauma

@GoodDoc_2105

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Posted: 10 years ago

#91

Mangala did what she thought was right at that time to stop Akheraj's sword.

The girl was never accpeted as family by the couple.

She saved that girl from being beaten up time and again. But could she save that girl from the pain that she suffers every time she is rejected. and called Manhoos?Was she able to spare that girl from the pain one feels when people reject her?Could she save that girl from the insecurity she feels?

Yes that girl gets punished quite often and she is quite a handfull while the punishments may be out of proportion to what she did most of the times she did something that warranted some kind of action.

Kamili gets punished and beaten by Akheraj even Kundan on occasions get yelled at.

But Kamili is loved by her mother Kundan is loved by his parents and that little girl also wanted that love from them.

Could Mangala stop her from yearning for that love?

She got food and shelter beyond that she can't do anything for that girl.Now she knows that the girl needs a lot more than she could give her.

What prevents her from calling Anandi if she loves that girl and is so concerned about her?Only her reluctance part with that girl.

What is there in that house for that girl? Free food shelter? That now Mangala knows that she can get it from Anandi too. That girl is getting attached to Chudailsa.She knows that Anandi will care for that girl like she herself does.

Before she got to know about Anandi or any social worker who helps people like Nandini it was fine but now?

Are her needs so great that she is willing to over look that girl's well being?

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SPuja

@SPuja

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Posted: 10 years ago

#92

If the girl's need is the most important thing - perhaps all those who are advocating Mangla to hand over the girl to Anandi would have been happy had the girl had been handed over to some other social worker 😆. I am sure if it would have been some other social worker - no one would have demanded that Mangla should hand over the girl to that person. And another thing is - does Mangla has absolute authority over that girl that she is authorised to send the girl to anybody she wants?

We get used to anybody we care for - even for pets. People do rescue baby birds who are fallen from nest - though experts advice that such birds should not be kept at home - generally people do get attached and keep the birds at home - though it is not good for the birds. People do bring stray dogs to home - and though they may not provide best facilities - they will not agree to part with even a sick dog - who can be better taken care of by a vet. What is wrong in Mangala getting attached to the girl she cared for more than 11 years..

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SPuja

@SPuja

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Posted: 10 years ago

#93

One more thing - because it is said that now Mangla knows that the girl wants something more than Mangla can provide - would this yardstick be applicable for parents also? A lot of parents cannot provide for all their children's needs and wants - should they handover their children to the social worker they get to know? Most of the middle class and lower middle class parents cannot provide their children what these children desire and want - how about them? Just because parents/guardians are not capable of fulfilling wants - they are bad and are hampering the child's growth and selfish and what not ??

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aparnauma

@GoodDoc_2105

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Posted: 10 years ago

#94

Mangala is NOT her parent.

Expectations from parents are way different.

She is just a self appointed guardian of the child.

Harki and Akheraj are more responsible for the child's life because they married her to their son.But people don't expect anything from them because of their basic selfish nature and their use and throw policy.

Yes people have more expaectations from somebody who took on a responsibility which is not really their job and keep talking about what is right and what is wrong.When they volunteer themselves to take up a responsibility it they should make efforts towards fulfilling the expectations.

She is the one who has contempt for Akheraj and Harki's ways of handling life and keeps talking about what is right and what is wrong.

She should stop talking about what is right and what is wrong and look after her own interests in this keeping the child with her because it suits her to keep the child close to her.

She should stop judging Akheraj Harki and Kundan and do everything to prevent the girl from meeting Anandi or do the opposite.by juding Akheraj and Kundan by their actions and try to rise above her own self interests.

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SPuja

@SPuja

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Posted: 10 years ago

#95

Mangala is not parent - but she cared for the girl and is attached to her - why it is wrong? Just because the girl happens to be daughter of Anandi and Anandi is not searching for her and so it is Mangla's duty to see beyond normal rural needs and hand over the girl to Anandi 😆. Almost all the girls in that area are being treated like Nimboli (Nimboli's friend is also being treated like this) why not people expect Pampo's mother in law to hand over her to Anandi? Nimboli is in this condition because of Anandi - Mangla is the reason may be one day Anandi will get to meet her daughter and should be grateful for Mangala for that. And if we really care for Anandi - we should be grateful to Mangala that she saved Anandi's daughter.

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aparnauma

@GoodDoc_2105

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Posted: 10 years ago

#96

This is present scenario.

Mangala saved that baby 11 years ago and after that she survived like all other bahus do and the girl child does in their society. Mangala has not done anything that great after that

She was saved from Kundan mainly because Akheraj did not want anything to do with a girl whose caste he did not know.

Mangala is not her parent but she did take up the reponsibility by saving that girl and marrying her to Kundan.

If Kundan's parents didn't want the girl any more and they are just keeping her as a dasi why is she not doing anything?

She now knows there are other alternatives.

If she loves her like a mother then do what is best for that girl like mothers do or if she wants to keep the girl with her because she is attached to her then admit it that her need overweighs her love for that girl

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SPuja

@SPuja

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Posted: 10 years ago

#97

Good that people now accept that Mangala did saved the girl. Mangala is not doing anything great - "Mangala the great" title was given to mock her. She is just as normal as Anandi - just like Anandi helps others - Mangala also helps others. Anandi had the advantage of education, good people and young age - Mangala does not have those advantage. She has limited means and limited visions. Why not appreciate what she is doing with that?

Everybody says that once we see that Mangala becomes roadblock after knowing the truth of how Nimboli landed up in that place and Anandi is the mother - then Mangala can be ridiculed and criticised. Before that and till she is not harming anyone - this tirade against Mangala looks very bad. Expecting Mangala to do something beyond her means is from the same people who did not ridiculed Anandi who just duped the saviour of her Amol in some anathashram type institution and forgot all about him. Even Amol or Shiv or any other Shakhers never remembered the boy who risked his own life and helped Amol. Anandi/Shiv/Shakhers had the means and vision about the needs and wants of a boy somewhat older than Amol - what did they do?

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RTee

@RTee

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Posted: 10 years ago

#98

Originally posted by: anshurg5
11 years ago Teesa might have been a more vulnerable person, less experienced and less proficient in worldly matters. She did not have any courage to directly question Akhiraj for her husband's murder , how she would have questioned Akhiraj about that kidnapping business and whereabouts of child's parents when he was seething with anger?
As Devi Ma she did what she was able to quickly think to save that child. It was not easy to think methodically when one has little time or under stress . Remember! she was doing the act for someone else for first time , perhaps she might not be sure about it's success and she might not have successful if her order was not associated with the benefit of Akhiraj also.
I will not blame her, making attempts to search that child's parents was beyond her thinking and beyond her capacity.

Anandi lost her child , Akhraj snatched it . How Mangla became responsible for returning that child?

@Anshu

Mangala cares for the child as she should. That was the reason she kept her, in order to quieten her maternal stirrings. And there is nothing wrong in her loving this child and not wanting to separate from her now after 11 years.

But 11 years ago it was a different story. 11 years ago Kundan was 8, Kamli a few years older.

Teesa had already been living under Akhiraj's roof as a widow for over 10 years. She had already been enacting her Devi act and keeping him at bay. She had already exposed him to his parents as the murderer of her husband in the guise of Devi. By now she knew how petrified he was of Devi. That was the reason she was certain she could save the child who had brought out her maternal instinct in her.

She did not have the courage to question Akhiraj directly. Quite possible. No issues. What about under Devi act?

Or for that matter did she even for a moment question herself about the whereabouts of the baby's mother/parents? Did she spare a thought for them is the question. Nothing was stopping her from talking to herself.

Originally posted by: anshurg5

Anandi lost her child , Akhraj snatched it . How Mangla became responsible for returning that child?

Mangala is not responsible for returning that child. But she had no right to keep her either at that time. If a family member brings home something that he/she clearly could not have acquired rightfully, other members have two choices in front of them. They tell the erring member to return it. Or they feel happy at the new acquisition and also become party to that act.

We understand Mangala to be the voice of reason in that house. Her words may not be accepted, but that does not stop her now and then from telling Harki and Akheraj that they are doing wrong. Which means she does know the difference between right and wrong.

Did she even once tell even herself that Akhiraj is wrong and he should return the child. That there must be a mother somewhere pining for her baby. Irrespective of who the mother is.

Has this thought ever occurred to her all these years? Or is she just petrified of losing this unexpected gift that her DevarSa brought with him that fateful day?

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Muktchand

@Muktchand

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Posted: 10 years ago

#99

well

Imagine this what if Mangala saw little Nandini's pic with Anandi during Anandi's visit to school in Jhalra ... Pic drop from her purse ... Mangala picks it & recogzine ... Anandi told this is her daughter who is lost named Nandini

So now Mangala able t reveal truth to Anandi... Reading update ... Now I am bit doubtful will her love for Nimboli stop her ..since she keep saying she can't live without Nimboli

No denying Mangala saving kid till now .. I m sure Anandi will be forever greatful to her

But seeing her attachment towards Nimboli making her weak .. I mean Mangala. Mangala didn't knew Anandi so well agree but she meet her talk with her & imp know what kind of work Anandi does ...still for sake of her she keeps Nimboli with her. I guess Mangala saw Anandi with MLA Jagdish too so she knew Anandi is powerful with connection too. So saying she is afrid of Akhi is bit ... What stopping her telling Anandi there are two Bal Vivah in family ... Fine her being uneducated or live in orthodox background makes her do so ... Obviously Writers wish to drag serial so in coming episodes if we see Mangala show her grey shades or selfishness it won't be shocking

till now no one come further looking for Kid ... And how much Mangala knew regarding kidnapping...since CV always forgot many past tracks hence Mangala making Nimboli close to her

May be writers wanted to show n matter how much Mangala attached with kid but she handover kid to her real mother

But seeing CV Writers it seems they won't show Nandini Anandi unite anytime soon so possible that knowing truth about Nimboli being Nandini she won't reveal it hence all this scene where Mangala keep saying she can't live without Nimboli

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Missesha

@Missesha

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Posted: 10 years ago

#100

I beg to differ Rtee.

Where has Mangala kept the child? Has anyone come to claim this child?

Anandi who came was a social worker and not as a girl's mother.

So WHO should Mangala hand away this child to? Just any random social worker? Why?

Even if she thought the Akhi should return this child to her mother, then did she have means of returning? Does she even know who the mother is?

People say that she should have suggested for the child to go to orphanage instead of getting her married to kundan in her devi act. My question is ' Is returning the child to orphanage same as returning to her mother?'

It is very simple.Mangala took pity on the child and saved her in spur of a moment with whatever idea came in her mind. Later on loved and cared for this child and treated her as another human unlike Harki and gang who had made a slave of this child.

11 years have passed and till date no one has come to claim this child yet. Now also mangala is saving her from kundan and supporting Nimboli's education. Where has she been a block?

Or is not handing over your loved one to a social worker who comes out of the blue at your door step, such a big hinderance?

Edited by Missesha - 10 years ago