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Posted: 11 years ago
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The district collectorate is usually a huge complex, not just a single-level office where only the collector sits. There may or may not be CCTVs but people mill around -- security guards, peons, junior employees, and hordes of ordinary people.
In the late evenings, crowds thin out but it is never the case that there is no one. So this whole business of the collector's office being bang on a desolate road, so that the burning man runs inside, is loads of rubbish.
@aparna
I know many of you have been asking for a woman lawyer but that is unrealistic given that the "town's best lawyer" is the family's son-in-law.
It makes no sense for Shiv's family to go searching for a woman lawyer when the ace legal brain is with them. Besides women lawyers are predisposed to being sympathetic to the woman. It is also not clear to me whose side the public prosecutor will take in this case.
The objection to Kabra is because he is expressionless but in itself a court case need not be boring. Far from it, it can be riveting -- speaking for myself I love well shot court room battles -- provided evidence is collected properly, forensics are examined, the post-mortem doctor is summoned, finger prints are lifted, and other clues searched out.
Cross examination of witnesses, and Rasikaa herself can be engrossing. A clever lawyer can catch her on the sequence of events : For instance, where did the kerosene come from? If he carried the can from home, how did he reach the office, in which vehicle? If there was no vehicle, it means somebody dropped him there.
Where was Rasikaa at the time? If she accompanied him, why did she not try to save him/ alert Shiv's staff on what he was about to do?
But the problem is, Shiv will be shown fumbling because he did hug her etc, and will admit to doing so. The staff will say they saw Rasikaa trying to escape his clutches.
The matter will end here, and the family will shed tears and pray before various gods before a chamatkaar happens.
I hope for once CVs avoid the easy route and opt for the proper legal course.
Edited by rohini55 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Who is that moustachioed man screaming at the family? Who are all the people on Rasikaa"s side?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rohini55

The district collectorate is usually a huge complex, not just a single-level office where only the collector sits. There may or may not be CCTVs but people mill around -- security guards, peons, junior employees, and hordes of ordinary people.
In the late evenings, crowds thin out but it is never the case that there is no one. So this whole business of the collector's office being bang on a desolate road, so that the burning man runs inside, is loads of rubbish.
@aparna
I know many of you have been asking for a woman lawyer but that is unrealistic given that the "town's best lawyer" is the family's son-in-law.
It makes no sense for Shiv's family to go searching for a woman lawyer when the ace legal brain is with them. Besides women lawyers are predisposed being sympathetic to the woman. It is also not clear to me whose side the public prosecutor will take in this case.
The objection to Kabra is because he is expressionless but in itself a court case need not be boring. Far from it, it can be riveting -- speaking for myself I love well shot court room battles -- provided evidence is collected properly, forensics are examined, the post-mortem doctor is summoned, finger prints are lifted, and other clues searched out.
Cross examination of witnesses, and Rasikaa herself can be engrossing. A clever lawyer can catch her on the sequence of events : For instance, where did the kerosene come from? If he carried the can from home, how did he reach the office, in which vehicle? If there was no vehicle, it means somebody dropped him there.
Where was Rasikaa at the time? If she accompanied him, why did she not try to save him/ alert Shiv's staff on what he was about to do?
But the problem is, Shiv will be shown fumbling because he did hug her etc, and will admit to doing so. The staff will say they saw Rasikaa trying to escape his clutches.
The matter will end here, and the family will shed tears and pray before various gods before a chamatkaar happens.
I hope for once CVs avoid the easy route and opt for the proper legal course.

I am interested in seeing a woman lawyer handling this case because the stereo type need to be broken.
Why should it be assumed that woman lawyer would be more sympathetically disposed towards Rasika?
They have shown a male lawyer who was arguing against a woman in a rape case turning pro woman after it has been proved that the man he is fighting for is a rapist.

I want to see how a woman lawyer would cross examine a woman like Rasika.

And of course there is a great reluctance see this wannabe Shiv Anandi pair too and asking for a woman lawyer is our way of showing the creative that we have better idea .😛

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I am more interested in seeing Anandi Shiv solve the case by themselves and hire a lawyer to guide them thru court procedures in case the it goes to court.
I'd rather see Anandi and Shiv digging Rasika's past gathering evidence against her and ask for post mortem report to prove his innocence.
They have put a strong man in a vulnerable position and weakened him and they should show him fighting back and it should be his battle with his wife as a support or back up.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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@aparna
I was arguing from a common sense POV. If your brother-in-law is the best lawyer in town and a has reputation of fighting for the truth and winning cases, would you go out of your way to find some other lawyer? You wouldn't unless your bi-I-l was unavailable.
Shiv's case is so sensitive, I'm sure the family would not like to gamble.
If a family member has a heart problem, and another family member is a top rated cardiac surgeon, would you consult him or go out to find some one else?
CVs could have shown the Sabra couple out of town, which made the family hire another lawyer. But if Kabra is in town and available which family would not trust one of its own?
Isn't it too much hassle to find a woman lawyer and convince her that Shiv was the wronged one? If she looked at the circumstances, prima facie it would look to her as if R was innocent. Because the question arises: which woman would tarnish her own reputation in order to spite someone else? The woman lawyer would have to do a lot of investigation before she agrees which is a waste of precious time.
Kabra on the other hand would not need convincing.
The symbolism of a woman lawyer fighting for a man is also lost on me, especially in a serial which goes out of its way to empower the male while confining the female to the kitchen.
Of course, it is not clear to me how the departmental enquiry leads to the court case,
One critical question neither Anandi nor Shiv has asked is: How did Narendra who ill treated his wife to the extent that she bore deep lashes on her body, turn so sympathetic to her that he immolates himself? Where did the cruel husband go?
To me it doesn't matter who argues as long as the case spans out intelligently and we are not taken for morons.
And Shiv and Anandi are shown as assisting the probe with intelligent analysis of the situation
Edited by rohini55 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rohini55

@aparna
I was arguing from a common sense POV. If your brother-in-law is the best lawyer in town and a has reputation of fighting for the truth and winning cases, would you go out of your way to find some other lawyer? You wouldn't unless your bi-I-l was unavailable.
Shiv's case is so sensitive, I'm sure the family would not like to gamble.
If a family member has a heart problem, and another family member is a top rated cardiac surgeon, would you consult him or go out to find some one else?
CVs could have shown the Sabra couple out of town, which made the family hire another lawyer. But if Kabra is in town and available which family would not trust one of its own?
Isn't it too much hassle to find a woman lawyer and convince her that Shiv was the wronged one? If she looked at the circumstances, prima facie it would look to her as if R was innocent. Because the question arises: which woman would tarnish her own reputation in order to spite someone else? The woman lawyer would have to do a lot of investigation before she agrees which is a waste of precious time.
Kabra on the other hand would not need convincing.
The symbolism of a woman lawyer fighting for a man is also lost on me, especially in a serial which goes out of its way to empower the male while confining the female to the kitchen.
Of course, it is not clear to me how the departmental enquiry leads to the court case,
One critical question neither Anandi nor Shiv has asked is: How did Narendra who ill treated his wife to the extent that she bore deep lashes on her body, turn so sympathetic to her that he immolates himself? Where did the cruel husband go?
To me it doesn't matter who argues as long as the case spans out intelligently and we are not taken for morons.
And Shiv and Anandi are shown as assisting the probe with intelligent analysis of the situation



And both Sanchi and Kabra have a debt to repay. Sanchi for ill treating shiv during his adoption story days and Vivek for Saurabh's sins.

Even I am wondering how a departmental case is becoming a court case and who moved the court? anandi can move the court while I think shiv has to take permission from the government.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rohini55

@aparna
I was arguing from a common sense POV. If your brother-in-law is the best lawyer in town and a has reputation of fighting for the truth and winning cases, would you go out of your way to find some other lawyer? You wouldn't unless your bi-I-l was unavailable.
Shiv's case is so sensitive, I'm sure the family would not like to gamble.
If a family member has a heart problem, and another family member is a top rated cardiac surgeon, would you consult him or go out to find some one else?
CVs could have shown the Sabra couple out of town, which made the family hire another lawyer. But if Kabra is in town and available which family would not trust one of its own?
Isn't it too much hassle to find a woman lawyer and convince her that Shiv was the wronged one? If she looked at the circumstances, prima facie it would look to her as if R was innocent. Because the question arises: which woman would tarnish her own reputation in order to spite someone else? The woman lawyer would have to do a lot of investigation before she agrees which is a waste of precious time.
Kabra on the other hand would not need convincing.
The symbolism of a woman lawyer fighting for a man is also lost on me, especially in a serial which goes out of its way to empower the male while confining the female to the kitchen.
Of course, it is not clear to me how the departmental enquiry leads to the court case,
One critical question neither Anandi nor Shiv has asked is: How did Narendra who ill treated his wife to the extent that she bore deep lashes on her body, turn so sympathetic to her that he immolates himself? Where did the cruel husband go?
To me it doesn't matter who argues as long as the case spans out intelligently and we are not taken for morons.
And Shiv and Anandi are shown as assisting the probe with intelligent analysis of the situation

@ bold - I think by the time Narendra came over to their place both Anandi and Shiv realised that Rasika had told them a pack of lies.
Shiv was patiently trying to make Narendra understand what happened in his chamber and probably by then they realised that she duped him also.

But I still would like to see a woman lawyer.

The family lawyer can keep himself busy with his brother and how is this man a great lawyer when his rapist brother is putting up such an act that he cannot see what the creep is doing to his wife????

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Better to trust a known devil than an unknown devil. If Vivek Kabra is not a great lawyer, how can one assume a lady lawyer will be great one?
And even if they win in a lower court, rasika may try to move higher court until it reaches supreme court. Unless there is irrefutable proof against her.
Usually in serials, they dont go to higher court and the story ends there in the lower court itself.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ aparna
Isn't getting woman lawyer and breaking the stereotype just peanuts?
CVs have not bothered to break the biggest stereotype of the female in the kitchen and the male as a politician, so we can at best get cheap thrills via the woman lawyer.
If Kabras have to be around, I would rather they were in this role than putting up with the rapist at home. Can't bear the Kabra House's domestic horrors.
And I know why you are pissed. Could VKabra please get some expressions, and not appear so robotic?
VKabra wanted to move out -- and is still deeply unhappy about the brother -- it is the wife who stopped the move and who is piously putting up with sexual the harassment.
And Shiv the astute IAS officer needs to get out of being sullen and defeated and wear his famed thinking cap.
Btw, do you know who that screaming man is?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@leaves
"Usually in serials, they dont go to higher court and the story ends there in the lower court itself."
So true. People are hanged on trial court orders😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

Better to trust a known devil than an unknown devil. If Vivek Kabra is not a great lawyer, how can one assume a lady lawyer will be great one?
And even if they win in a lower court, rasika may try to move higher court until it reaches supreme court. Unless there is irrefutable proof against her.
Usually in serials, they dont go to higher court and the story ends there in the lower court itself.


court set must be costing heavily for PH 😉

but BV PH love court set 😆

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