Superfast Express - Page 2

Originally posted by: SPuja

Rat story is as already expected (Mannu not going away from Ganga), except that no one knew till now how he changed his decision. It feels so nice to see that creatives made it clear that Ratan loves his son. Since I made a thread about Father's right, most of the people were saying Rat or his parents do not love Mannu.

I do not have any complaint regarding fast paced story - at least it is moving.

Nice topic leaves,

I am quite convinced with the way Ratan is changing his heart. I don't find it so hard to believe him. In his revenge from Ganga, and his pride to be a son's father, he could never think of Mannu's future. He is illiterate, brut, and chauvinist and has never thought of anyone's happiness above his own, so thinking of Mannu's safe future was out of question. He needed to have an eye-opening experience, and that's what he saw in Shankar-Gunjan duo. He realised how much his son would end up hating him. I won't say Ratan is a good father. Because if he was, he would have loved Padma's daughter too, but I would say that Ratan loved Mannu, because Mannu is his male-heir and is a reason for Ratan's pride. We could say Ratan's love for Mannu is selfish.

I am ok if this was super-fast. At least it will now put an end to Ganga's tears. The blood cancer track was nothing but to bring more drama for trps. I always knew (even before the spoilers were out) that nothing will happen to Mannu and he will remain with Ganga. So the track never interested me. And I was too fed up with Ganga crying. She has been crying track after track from the time she realised she has fallen for J. Hope they give some interesting track to JaGan.

Similarly I had hopes from Saanchi's rape case track, but I realised it was once gain for trps. So that Saanchi could redeem and Anandi can get more praises for being a perfect bhabhi, apart from being a perfect bahu, wife and mother. And also so that CVs can recycle one more track of Saas-bahu (Mrs. kobra & Saanchi).

Is Anandi really that perfect that she always gets praises from everyone and anyone? From what I see she makes blunders everyone now and then, and doesn't even realise it. Why can't for once Cvs point out her flaws too? Couldn't Anandi sense that it is stupid to go and invite Kobras like that. Can't she pass on the message to elder Shekhars and make it look more meaningful as concerned DIL and SIL? What she did was stupid given her maturity; yet Vivek praised her. Too much of praises for goodness in Anandi & Ganga is getting sickening. Cvs show something real.

I am a DIL / SIL to someone, and I know what limits one has in the family, yet be part of the family and add to family's welfare. I can never connect to Anandi's ways of handling family affairs, and that's why my blood boils to see the 'plastic / non-practical bahus' in the shows.

I was happy for the last 2-3 tracks of Anandi regarding beggar racket and Suhasini. The stories were not long-lasting but interesting. I can ignore some blunders here in the name of creative liberty as long as the underlying message makes sense. Yes in real world, buyers are not that ready with money, but the property selling -buying was convincing based on the convo between Suhasini and the buyer. The underlying message was how a mother can teach a lesson to his son. And I appreciated that without going into much detail. I also liked Anandi's role in that. Suhasini took the lead but Anandi stood there as a good support.

Originally posted by: aparnauma

In real life too doing the right thing all the and getting it right all the time is not all that easy.If it is shown to be easy and she getting things right every time will pass on a message that being good and doing good is an easy job. She does gets accolades when things go well and she does get brickbats when things go wrong too.

So I don't think that it's only praises that get heaped on her.

Aparna, I totally agree with your statement at bold and but I differ with you at the statement in red. In my POV Anandi has hardly ever got any brickbats for her mistakes.

Running away with Mannu while Ratan Singh was shooting her - no sanity, yet rewarded for bravery.

Forcing J for 3^rd marriage - Never thought what J is going through - never reflected if marriage was the only solution for him or something else - But Singhs praised her.

She goofed up in the way she handled SaJa engagement. You either shut up or speak out with guts, but she shuts up when she needs to speak and speaks when things have already gone worse. If she was a real true friend to J and beti to Singhs, she would have done her part to stop SaJa from happening. Or if she was indeed a well-wisher to Saanchi and Shekhars, she would have stepped up at the right time. She failed completely as bahu/beti/bhabhi and friend. Yet she never sat to think, how she could have controlled this better. Yes everything was not up to her, but she didn't even do what was up to her. Why no focus on her mistake?

Saanchi's rape: I can't blame her for the rape that happened to Saanchi, but I can surely blame her for not keeping Ira in loop after finding out sure shot information on what Saanchi is up to. Shekhars have never scolded Anandi for withholding info, but all praises in supporting Sa post rape.

Finally, supporting Sa in inviting Kabras: What if Mrs. Kabra barges into KB and starts yelling at Shekhars, insulting them? Will this be taken in rights spirits by Shekhars, given that A-Sa Jodi kept them in dark? But Vivek praised her for supporting Sa's thoughts, yet again glorifying A.

And so many other such repetitive, impulsive mistakes by Anandi, but yet Anandi is glorified. In real life no one changes with one lecture, but Anandi can attain that in minutes.

Mistakes can happen, and no one is perfect, but one needs to also reflect on where they went wrong. Anandi never seem to do that.

Basically Anandi cannot act practically despite a great exposure and has too many flaws, yet she is never scolded by anyone. All she ever gets is praises. I can applaud her for being a good-at-heart person, and someone with softness in her heart. But I can't even say that she truly cares for others. No she doesn't. Truly caring is not limited to being good and soft or silently accepting other people's tantrums. It is about stepping up for the right reasons at the right time, even if it means taking tough routes to convince the family.

Originally posted by: Missesha

Aparna, I totally agree with your statement at bold and but I differ with you at the statement in red. In my POV Anandi has hardly ever got any brickbats for her mistakes.

Agree Anandi always had noble intentions but her execution has always been messy. Yet She never sits back to think or reflect if she could have handled the said situation any better. But yet she is always praised for the outcome, no matter how lamely she would have handled the case.

Running away with Mannu while Ratan Singh was shooting her - no sanity, yet rewarded for bravery.

Forcing J for 3^rd marriage - Never thought what J is going through - never reflected if marriage was the only solution for him or something else - But Singhs praised her.

She goofed up in the way she handled SaJa engagement. You either shut up or speak out with guts, but she shuts up when she needs to speak and speaks when things have already gone worse. If she was a real true friend to J and beti to Singhs, she would have done her part to stop SaJa from happening. Or if she was indeed a well-wisher to Saanchi and Shekhars, she would have stepped up at the right time. She failed completely as bahu/beti/bhabhi and friend. Yet she never sat to think, how she could have controlled this better. Yes everything was not up to her, but she didn't even do what was up to her. Why no focus on her mistake?

Saanchi's rape: I can't blame her for the rape that happened to Saanchi, but I can surely blame her for not keeping Ira in loop after finding out sure shot information on what Saanchi is up to. Shekhars have never scolded Anandi for withholding info, but all praises in supporting Sa post rape.

Finally, supporting Sa in inviting Kabras: What if Mrs. Kabra barges into KB and starts yelling at Shekhars, insulting them? Will this be taken in rights spirits by Shekhars, given that A-Sa Jodi kept them in dark? But Vivek praised her for supporting Sa's thoughts, yet again glorifying A.

And so many other such repetitive, impulsive mistakes by Anandi, but yet Anandi is glorified. In real life no one changes with one lecture, but Anandi can attain that in minutes.

Mistakes can happen, and no one is perfect, but one needs to reflect also where they went wrong. Anandi never seem to do that.

Basically Anandi cannot act practically despite a great exposure and has too many flaws, yet she is never scolded by anyone. All she ever gets is praises. I can applaud her for being a good-at-heart person, and someone with softness in her heart. But I can't even say that she truly cares for others. No she doesn't. Truly caring is not limited to being good and soft or silently accepting other people's tantrums. It is about stepping up for the right reasons at the right time, even if it means taking tough routes to convince the family.

Esha all these things have been discussed in the past in great detail.Did any one reach to any conclusion?

It could very well be argued that why she did not shut up when Sanchi Shekhars and Singhs are messing up their lives?Did any one listen to her when she spoke up? Did anyone think of asking her opinion and they all assumed what ever they wanted to assume and went about doing what they wanted. She was not only seeing the situation as bahu beti bhabhi but as an abandoned wife of Jagya too.She was the only one who saw the situation from so many sides while everyone just saw it from their own perspective and didn't care fr other's perspective.That's the reason why the situation deteriorated.

As for Sanchi and her relationship with her mother the less said the better.A mother who can't tell when her daughter is being true and when she is putting up a show for her own benefit is more at fault than Anandi is. She let them handle the situation during SaJa and post breakup of SaJa DId the way they handle things made the situation any better?Why is Ira not keeping tabs on her own daughter?Why do people not question that?Will informing Ira change anything?No then why is she being questioned?

All the things that went wrong not just because she didn't get her act right but others got it wrong too.So it is unfair to blame her.

Do you think Kabra couple wouldn't have known if Anandi and Sanchi did not go to their place to tell them?

The couple would have got to know about it any ways and still would come and create ruckus at the wedding.That is a fact.

It is Vivek Kabra who wanted to marry Sanchi and it is Sanchi who agreed to marry Vakil all this despite knowing about the resistance from the Kabras

Isn't that reason enough for the Kabras to create ruckus?

What did Sanchi lose by trying to offer an olive branch?She only gained in the bargain by going one step higher on the ladder to Mahaanta.😛

At some point in life they ahve to make peace moves so why finding fault with someone who made paeace moves?There was nothing gained but nothing lost either.

Anyways I am not really interested in seeing Sanchi's Mahaanta but since Anandi came into picture I am talking about it.

Aparna in any situation, there are somethings which are in our control and some which are not. I am talking about doing things which are in one's control. Is Anandi doing all that is her control? Does she think for before making decisions?

The examples I gave above are some of those where I am not satisfied with Anandi's thinking process and hence dislike it when she is praised for her goodness but overlooked for her mistakes. My grudge is against the unnecessary praises she gets, but never gets scolded for her mistakes. No one ever tells her, 'Anandi, how could you?'

I know of examples when Anandi was so convincing that one would applaud her for her positivity and broad mindedness.

The way she fought to get permission for J to study medical, or the way she realised her own studies are important after being introduced as Nandini. Or also the way she chose to be social worker post J-G1, or her acts as sarpanch are all convincing. Even little Anandi who cared for Gehna, Sugna and other family was great.

Mrs. Shekhar is quite confused. And it is fine if she is confused or makes mistakes, as long as she is not glorified as the best bahu, beti, bhabhi, friend, etc. time and again by her family. They also need to know that Anandi makes blunders and need to direct her for that. That way it would look balanced.

Since Anandi is a role model for many, people will only believe that as long as you have good intent at heart life is easy. That's not true. In real life everyone is questioned at every stage until the outcome is proven. And sometimes even after that. One does not get lee-way with just having good intention at heart. Cvs need to consider that.

Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

As anandi suffered too much in the past, I am ok if she gets these claps. But Vivek praising seemed to me odd. Because the idea of going to the Kabra house was sanchi's very own and the way she stopped anandi from being tactless was also sanchi's. So sanchi needs that praise. As anandi was sitting there, vivek must have felt obliged to praise her as a matter of nice gesture.

Even sanchi's becoming good has less to do with anandi and more to do with the way saurabh betrayed her trust. anandi's efforts to find sanchi and the way sanchi was supported by anandi must have won sanchi's trust.

Even Vivek taking up sanchi's case was due to sanchi meeting Vivek accidentally and pleading. That made Vivek to suspect his brother and search the drawers for some clue.