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Posted: 11 years ago

Anandi character itself is enigmatic to many ...because the complex relationships she carried with her through out her life ...

Earlier she accepted Gowri as Jaggiya's wife ...but adamant to free herself from loving ...thinking about him...later accepted Shiv as her Husband ...but was unable to come out of those memories and association with Jaggiya ...that is the biggest paradox in her life ...in that character !

To portray such iconic character ...an issue of complexity , artistic talent required and she expressed the evocative feelings of a woman's intricacies...in challenging times , in a beautiful and subtle manner !

It is a story of being a woman in an exceedingly male chauvinistic society !

We are analysing this point from Shiv's point of view ...but i think not from Anandi's point of view !

Erasing all the memories instantaneously and adjust in new life with some other person is not an easy task for any woman ! For some time Anandi loved and lived with Jaggiya happily and

forced to hate him because of his astounding insults and audacious deceit ...but still she has a soft corner towards him ...which she is carrying throughout her life ! That is the riddle ,, unsolved puzzle in the inner self of a woman !

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: SEETHA.K

Anandi character itself is enigmatic to many ...because the complex relationships she carried with her through out her life ...

Earlier she accepted Gowri as Jaggiya's wife ...but adamant to free herself from loving ...thinking about him...later accepted Shiv as her Husband ...but was unable to come out of those memories and association with Jaggiya ...that is the biggest paradox in her life ...in that character !

To portray such iconic character ...an issue of complexity , artistic talent required and she expressed the evocative feelings of a woman's intricacies...in challenging times , in a beautiful and subtle manner !

It is a story of being a woman in an exceedingly male chauvinistic society !

We are analysing this point from Shiv's point of view ...but i think not from Anandi's point of view !

Erasing all the memories instantaneously and adjust in new life with some other person is not an easy task for any woman ! For some time Anandi loved and lived with Jaggiya happily and

forced to hate him because of his astounding insults and audacious deceit ...but still she has a soft corner towards him ...which she is carrying throughout her life ! That is the riddle ,, unsolved puzzle in the inner self of a woman !



Well said, Seetha. some are born to love others. And some are born to be loved by others.



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Posted: 11 years ago
The problem is that anandi can be easily manipulated. Even now sanchi manipulated anandi into going to Kabra's house with the invitation card. An assertive woman could have said No.
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Posted: 11 years ago

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@Shankythebest - When Jagya came to help during Badi maasi's help at that time Jagya and Anandi have settled into a friendhip.

Anandi was appreciative of what Jagya was doing for the family despite them being so cold towards him and he also rescued her from kidnappers.
She was being friendly with him and he was the one who was reading more in that.
She clearly told him after Gauri came and created ruckus and revealed that she was Jagya's wife she told Jagya don't abandone Gauri the way he abandoned her.
She would have never accepted him back if he left Gauri and came to her and at that time Shiv was never in picture.

She was willing for a friendly relationship with him considering the shared childhood and the love they share for Singhs and nothing more than that.

The relationship was strengthened before thye decided to bring the curtains down on the JA marriage for a bigger impact.

If Anandi divorced Jagya without any drama happening in between it wouldn't have made the impact.

Sorry to say but Purnendu Shekhar did mention in one interview that he got the inspiration from a lady who was married off in childhood and husband left her when they reached adulthood and said that pained him a lot and that's what has inspired him to write this story.
He also said ANANDI will never stop caring for Jagya. That doesn't mean that he had reunion on his mind.

Jagya Anandi reunion was never on cards.



First of all,Jagya Anandi union was never in cards.Don't agree.It was on cards till Badi Maasi track...Otherwise they wouldn't have dragged it and they would have introduced Shiv much earlier...And about the dialogue Anandi said,that one dialogue of Anandi proved that he would never take back Jagya?But what about the dialogues they uttered from Jagya's mouth in initial episodes,what about the dialogues Jagya uttered after slapping Gauri and realizing his mistakes for two three episodes and what about that dialogue that he said that he can't ruin Anandi's happiness after seeing Anandi Shiv together...Dialogues are dialogues,writers change it according to their mood and wish...That dialogue of Anandi didn't proof that she will never took him back.It was the dialogue to show us that though Anandi always remains quite and hears all the blah blah of Gauri that doesn't mean she doesn't have karara jawab,she is not interested to snatch the husband from a psycho,briefly she doesn't care at all.Anyways,its all my point of view,the way cvs showed it and I saw it.So probably we have to leave this here...

Sorry to say Purnendu Shekhar did mention...Why sorry?Didn't get the reason...He said a husband abandoned his wife and it pained him a lot thats why he wrote this story...Just the story that a wife will be abandoned by his husband,then whats the future story...Did he mentioned?Did he mentioned that husband returned to her and that woman didn't accept her and married some other person...Then I have nothing to say because he wrote the story according to the incident he saw...But if not then the story might be portrayed in two ways...One punish the husband and bring him back,thats what they were thinking of doing till 2012 and two,introduce a equally positive character like Anandi,which they did.It doesn't prove that Jagya Anandi re-union was never on cards.

On one side I read people saying that writers are showing how child marriage is wrong and it was inspired from the movie Balika Vadhu on the other side I got to know Purnendu Shekhar got inspired from a real life story.Was that lady a Balika Vadhu?If she was then its all correct but if she is not then show one message clearly,why messing up the central character?On one side you are trying to say Child marriage is wrong and then you are taking a route of bigamy to show child marriage wrong...What is the connection!!!When the husband is committing bigamy and only the woman is suffering then how child marriage is wrong.So are they trying to show child marraige was wrong for only the girl because if u do a child marriage your equally young husband will commit bigamy when he will be 18!What were they thinking,actually!

And last but not the least Anandi was doing it in gest of friendship and Jagya was taking it all wrong!!!!!!I am watching a tv show,in a tv show when the screen blurs or they zoom on some candles or flowers or tree or hut thats because they want us to understand something which they cant show directly.When the heroin and hero have eye locks,she lands up on hero's arm from a tool,when the holi color falls on heroin's head at the exact point where she puts vermilion and camera zooms on her head,its called romance and indicates they are going to be together.If they jokingly showed those things to show that see, we can also copy IPKKND stuffs then its fine.But this happened and it was not like Anandi was taking Jagya as a friend and Jagya was eyeing to have some mushy moments with her at Gauri's back.It was not at all like Anandi was feeling awkward to apply the medicine on her back,Jagya was also shown equally embarassed while doing it.All these happened in Badi Maasi track which was shown on March 2012.Only after some news were floating here and there that Anandi is going to have a new hero then in April,Jagya accused Anandi that she is the reason of Gauri's miscarriage.Then one month they took to low him more by claiming the property.And here comes the new entry.

I am not talking about the characters,which is the grey one,which is the ideal one.I am trying to say that what creatives were thinking and showed the things.Because of their confusion they very badly handled Jagya character.Anandi will always be the central character but its not more important than Jagya character.I heard that the story Balika Vadhu is inspired from ,there Jagya character dies at a small age and Anandi becomes widow.So it proves they changed the whole story according to their wish and viewers demands and for sake of dragging it.There story was just a sentence like 'Its a story of Balika vadhu who got married to a equally young boy' or 'Its a story of Balika Vadhu who's husband abandoned her' thats it.Then all other things and scenes were developed by the writers thinking about the TRP.



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Posted: 11 years ago
From the begining they were claiming that their show is not about glorifying child marriage.
They were very clear that bonds that would have formed because of association naturally were given twist saying it is because of marriage.

All the relationship and encounters were to show that the bond they share is strong because of the time they spent together in their formative years and that's why they had a huge influence on each other.This relationship is not enough to sustain marriage.

They were too young to handle the problems that come with marriage and that's the reason why their marriage did not survive despite the bond they shared.

They were shown together during badi masi track to show the kind of bond they share and not to reunite.

If they show them reuniting because of that bond they share it amounts to endorsement of child marriage.

But the question was not about reuniting them or not.It was about whether Anandi should be remarried or not and since they have shown Jagya making mistakes how to show him correcting those mistakes.They did the survey and found that viewers wanted Anandi to be remarried instead of single life and that's how the entry of new man in Anandi's life came about.

He was very clear that the bonds of childhood which form naturally between two children who are thrown in together have been given a name called marriage and how that bond affects their lives till the end.He wanted to show this natural bond between Anandi and Jagya being mutilated because of child marriage.

In subsequent relationships they had with others namely Shiv and Gauri they were made to feel guilty about their feelings for each other all because they have been married in childhood and their memories of child hood is all about their first marriage.
Shiv was an understanding partner Gauri was not and Ganga is an understanding partner.That's how they meant to use the bond of Anandi and Jagya.

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Posted: 11 years ago
If they wanted to convey the message that child marriage is wrong, then even anandi should have been seen as developing some feelings for another man when she grew up to be a woman.
But anandi continued to long for Jagya.

I think they wanted to put the horse behind the cart. That is they first thought about the message and then wove the messy story. They played with the feelings of the audience.

Marriages fail for many reasons which include child marriage.
They wanted to be politically correct and thus butchered a good story.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

If they wanted to convey the message that child marriage is wrong, then even anandi should have been seen as developing some feelings for another man when she grew up to be a woman.
But anandi continued to long for Jagya.

I think they wanted to put the horse behind the cart. That is they first thought about the message and then wove the messy story. They played with the feelings of the audience.

Marriages fail for many reasons which include child marriage.
They wanted to be politically correct and thus butchered a good story.

An unseen angle ...a new twist you have given Leaves !
Well ...well...a good topic for discussion !!
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Posted: 11 years ago
JaGan topic became JaAn topic 😲
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

If they wanted to convey the message that child marriage is wrong, then even anandi should have been seen as developing some feelings for another man when she grew up to be a woman.
But anandi continued to long for Jagya.

I think they wanted to put the horse behind the cart. That is they first thought about the message and then wove the messy story. They played with the feelings of the audience.

Marriages fail for many reasons which include child marriage.
They wanted to be politically correct and thus butchered a good story.

They could have shown Anandi developing feelings for another man. That's where the commercial viability comes in😆. She is a telly bahu.😛
Telly bahus are pristine pure.
The way they have shown the child Anandi as someone strong willed and bright and all the other virtues it would have been unrealistic to show her to give in to feelings for another man.
Jagya has been shown from childhood as someone fickle minded always in need of guidance inability to distinguish good company from bad company bowing down to peer pressure and what not.It is not like he was mutilated in adulthood he has been same since childhood only when reached adulthood his blunders had bigger consequences.
They wanted to show what happens when one partner wants out of the childmarriage and that's what they have shown through Jagya Gauri story.
They wanted to bring about awareness of that law which made child marriage legal after they reach the of 20 /21.
When Jagya married Gauri he was under the impression that his marriage was legal like most of us thought until they mentioned the law.
They wanted to show the consequences of illegitimate relationship so Gauri and Jagya illegal marriage continued and of course people loved this track and it went for longer than they intended.
It is not just adultery that ruined Jagya Anandi's marriage.Dsa stopped Anandi's education and Jagya's education continued and with that there was a gap produced which led to communication gap and widening of the rift because of divergent views.These are part of every marriage but when these happened in JA marriage they were just teenagers. How will thye manage these problems?Aren't they just kids?
And another thing they really did not show what happened behind the closed doors of their bed room after Jagya met Gauri.They just showed Jagya imagining Gauri in Anandi's place we don't really know how much damage that would have caused to Anandi.Jagya changed after he met Gauri the more he appreciated Gauri the more he found lacking in Anandi.So that aspect was not shown.This is because of partly selfishness and partly immaturity.
Arent these enough to break a marriage even if they were best of buddies at one time?
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Posted: 11 years ago
They showed so much chemistry between Jagya and anandi in their childhood, that people got the message that child marriage is cute.

Even grownup Jagya had no problem with grownup anandi until he met gauri.

I think if he did not go to to mumbai for higher studies, there would have been little to distract him from anandi.

To create a big rift, they sent Jagya to mumbai and made him meet gauri who was his second child bride.

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