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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: rohini55

@5cents,

You are so perceptive normally, I'm surprised you have not understood my post. I did not imply that Anandi is not strong. If that was the case, I would not have ended my post by saying she will speak the truth -- as always -- in the court regardless of the cost to herself,

I was looking at A's current position from the POV of others: Everyone expects her to speak the truth as they see it. J' s family wants her to defend J and speak the truth of coffeeshop. S's family wants her to oppose J and speak the truth from the POV of Sanch's pain and suicide attempt. In all this, somewhere, the concern for A -- from BH as well as Shiv -- has been lost.

Take DS: she did support A after J's desertion and found Shiv for her. But once J returned, he was her priority. The day she saw his shoes -- on the day of A-Shiv engagement -- she was crazed with emotion for him. She was willing to sacrifice A even though she was the one who pushed her to Shiv. She asked her to dump S and marry J because she could not bear the pain of her pota. A's pain did not matter to her at all that point. She backstabbed S for J and was awfully glad when he came to call off the marriage. Where was her concern for A? It was Anandi who stood strong at that point and saved herself.

DS used A to get J to agree to marriage. This despite knowing the delicate relationship between them. This is the genesis of the current crisis. After J-Ganga marriage she said A mattered to her but for just two days -- now its is back to MY Pota and he has to be saved -- even if A is the collateral victim.Once he is released via A's truth, she'd be sad for A but she'd be gladder for J. Her throwing him out etc was just for one day.

Now for Bhairon. I respect him a lot but am somewhat disappointed in him now. He has unreservedly accepted J and says he is proud of him. Proud of what? That he filled G's maang in front of a whole big audience? And two days after he broke a six-month old engagement?. He could have told him, I accept that Sa is not suitable for you but the way you went about marrying G was not right. That would have been the OLD Bhairon..

He has also disappointed me with his subtle EBing of A. Why did he tell her that J did not mention she was at the coffee house? This puts enormous pressure on her. This makes her hugely guilty and she will tell the truth at the cost of breaking up with Shiv. Is this not saving one rishta at the cost of another?.

Of course A will tell the truth and nothing but the truth.that truth would have come out anyway -- because A is A.. She need not have been gently pressured by Bhairon or Ganga. On the other side, Shiv should have had the courage of conviction to say let her state the truth as she sees it. He is equally putting pressure on her.One wants her to save J at the cost of her relationship with her own husband; the husband wants her to defame J at the cost of her relationship with BH.
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About Ganga. She is a nice girl but she can never be A. A would have never accepted a man who filled her maang in the way J did with G. She would walked out in anger and not had anything to do with him till he repaired his relationship with every single person -- in BH and in KB. Instead she keeps telling J he did nothing wrong. Really, he did no wrong?
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Jagya -- what can one say about a man who was so much in love with A that he refused to get married and wanted to spend the rest of his life in her memory? First he is in love with A, then in love with Gauri -- to whom he says I will love you till my dying day; this is true love not what I had with A. Then he gets back his love for A, tries all sorts of chicanery to snatch her from Shiv. He continues to pine for her after her marriage and tells her he cannot forget her till his dying day. He hugs Ganga thinking she is A.Two months later, Presto, he is in love with Ganga. And six months later, it is true love again with G, and once again the dialogue: till death do us part.

WHY Anandi, why do you want to save this man? Are you not scared he will enact a fourth marriage and proclaim undying love to yet another woman?

Sa is horrible and deserves to go to hell. But the fact is that people have forgotten J was engaged to her for SIX months during which time her family thought she had completely changed herself. That is what upsets Shiv. From his POV: he asked J if he had second thoughts on the engagement. J said he is fine with marrying Sa. He carried on the charade for six whole months, called Ira mummyji, promised never to hurt her and her daughter and then .broke up with Sa over the coffees house drama. Why would Shiv and family not believe he did this only because he was two-timing Sa with Ganga?. How can anyone,even A, accept the maang-bharo drama? Just two days after he breaks a six-month long engagement, he tells another woman he loves her to distraction and in full view of the former fiancee and her family. How can Ganga says, this is right?

When a distraught Sa questioned J, he said, "no, I don't love you." This after six months of engagement? He had said "no, I don't love you" to Anandi as well. " I love you" and "I don't love you" have become part of his drill now.

Sa may be awful but when a man says "I don't love you" in front a whole big audience, and at that after being engaged to her for six months, any girl will be upset, A broke down and collapsed, Sa plotted revenge.But revenge or not, she did attempt suicide and that cannot not be a concern to her brother and family.

I have gone off the original point. But in all this, the person worst affected is A. J would be released sooner or later --even without A's testimony. Simply because Sa is alive. Bu the damage to A will be difficult to repair.

@Skep I agree largely with you. People have used and misused A at will but my point of diff is she is, and has been strong despite this.


Ganga is not Anandi and she dont need to be Anandi. She is uniqe if one cant understand her or her feelings then they cant exprain her character too. I will always chose Ganga over Anandi even if Sriti not play this character coz Ganga know how to stand for herself.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#32
@kiran agree that Ganga is no Anandi...and absolutely she doesnt need to be Anandi's mirror image or to be like her...
Ganga has her own unique character.and people like her that way only.
They are two different character with distinct personalities...Each one having her own set of methods, logics & principles that contribute in their different perspective towards the situation & in turn to their ways of handling the situation.
I dont support their unnecessary comparisons or even comparisons as they both have different perspective & goals towards life due to their past experiences

.-Aashima.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33
Yes the problem is that everyone wants Anandi to tell the truth "as they see it". 😡

And Ira, who obviously has this "mann mein chor" type of feeling, is deliberately making this an issue of sasural and maiyka and threatening to break off connections with Anandi.

I feel bad for Anandi because most decisions of her life are dictated by others - be it marriage, remarriage, divorce, being Sarpanch, getting educated or the mode of education (DS was opposed to sending her to college and wanted her around for housework - poor Anandi herself chose distance learning before DS barked!).

The only decision that happened with her own free will was to be a teacher. There also DS meddled as she would come to her school anytime or ask her to call off classes when she was needed at home or shifted school to haveli drawing room when it came to adult literacy classes.

Everyone claims to give her freedom but no one really did it give it to her. And since she has been subjugated since childhood, she also does not demand freedom to take her own decisions.

Anandi seems to have it all but basically has nothing. Whatever she gets comes after a lot of struggle, strife and again with conditions. Shiv gives her freedom to be but women in his house always breathe fire at Anandi.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: rohini55

@5cents,

You are so perceptive normally, I'm surprised you have not understood my post. I did not imply that Anandi is not strong. If that was the case, I would not have ended my post by saying she will speak the truth -- as always -- in the court regardless of the cost to herself,

I was looking at A's current position from the POV of others: Everyone expects her to speak the truth as they see it. J' s family wants her to defend J and speak the truth of coffeeshop. S's family wants her to oppose J and speak the truth from the POV of Sanch's pain and suicide attempt. In all this, somewhere, the concern for A -- from BH as well as Shiv -- has been lost.

Take DS: she did support A after J's desertion and found Shiv for her. But once J returned, he was her priority. The day she saw his shoes -- on the day of A-Shiv engagement -- she was crazed with emotion for him. She was willing to sacrifice A even though she was the one who pushed her to Shiv. She asked her to dump S and marry J because she could not bear the pain of her pota. A's pain did not matter to her at all that point. She backstabbed S for J and was awfully glad when he came to call off the marriage. Where was her concern for A? It was Anandi who stood strong at that point and saved herself.

DS used A to get J to agree to marriage. This despite knowing the delicate relationship between them. This is the genesis of the current crisis. After J-Ganga marriage she said A mattered to her but for just two days -- now its is back to MY Pota and he has to be saved -- even if A is the collateral victim.Once he is released via A's truth, she'd be sad for A but she'd be gladder for J. Her throwing him out etc was just for one day.

Now for Bhairon. I respect him a lot but am somewhat disappointed in him now. He has unreservedly accepted J and says he is proud of him. Proud of what? That he filled G's maang in front of a whole big audience? And two days after he broke a six-month old engagement?. He could have told him, I accept that Sa is not suitable for you but the way you went about marrying G was not right. That would have been the OLD Bhairon..

He has also disappointed me with his subtle EBing of A. Why did he tell her that J did not mention she was at the coffee house? This puts enormous pressure on her. This makes her hugely guilty and she will tell the truth at the cost of breaking up with Shiv. Is this not saving one rishta at the cost of another?.

Of course A will tell the truth and nothing but the truth.that truth would have come out anyway -- because A is A.. She need not have been gently pressured by Bhairon or Ganga. On the other side, Shiv should have had the courage of conviction to say let her state the truth as she sees it. He is equally putting pressure on her.One wants her to save J at the cost of her relationship with her own husband; the husband wants her to defame J at the cost of her relationship with BH.
.
About Ganga. She is a nice girl but she can never be A. A would have never accepted a man who filled her maang in the way J did with G. She would walked out in anger and not had anything to do with him till he repaired his relationship with every single person -- in BH and in KB. Instead she keeps telling J he did nothing wrong. Really, he did no wrong?
.
Jagya -- what can one say about a man who was so much in love with A that he refused to get married and wanted to spend the rest of his life in her memory? First he is in love with A, then in love with Gauri -- to whom he says I will love you till my dying day; this is true love not what I had with A. Then he gets back his love for A, tries all sorts of chicanery to snatch her from Shiv. He continues to pine for her after her marriage and tells her he cannot forget her till his dying day. He hugs Ganga thinking she is A.Two months later, Presto, he is in love with Ganga. And six months later, it is true love again with G, and once again the dialogue: till death do us part.

WHY Anandi, why do you want to save this man? Are you not scared he will enact a fourth marriage and proclaim undying love to yet another woman?

Sa is horrible and deserves to go to hell. But the fact is that people have forgotten J was engaged to her for SIX months during which time her family thought she had completely changed herself. That is what upsets Shiv. From his POV: he asked J if he had second thoughts on the engagement. J said he is fine with marrying Sa. He carried on the charade for six whole months, called Ira mummyji, promised never to hurt her and her daughter and then .broke up with Sa over the coffees house drama. Why would Shiv and family not believe he did this only because he was two-timing Sa with Ganga?. How can anyone,even A, accept the maang-bharo drama? Just two days after he breaks a six-month long engagement, he tells another woman he loves her to distraction and in full view of the former fiancee and her family. How can Ganga says, this is right?

When a distraught Sa questioned J, he said, "no, I don't love you." This after six months of engagement? He had said "no, I don't love you" to Anandi as well. " I love you" and "I don't love you" have become part of his drill now.

Sa may be awful but when a man says "I don't love you" in front a whole big audience, and at that after being engaged to her for six months, any girl will be upset, A broke down and collapsed, Sa plotted revenge.But revenge or not, she did attempt suicide and that cannot not be a concern to her brother and family.

I have gone off the original point. But in all this, the person worst affected is A. J would be released sooner or later --even without A's testimony. Simply because Sa is alive. Bu the damage to A will be difficult to repair.

@Skep I agree largely with you. People have used and misused A at will but my point of diff is she is, and has been strong despite this.

Rohini, agree with each and every word of your post. You have written it so well👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@TM, beautiful post!! well written👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: rohini55

@5cents,

You are so perceptive normally, I'm surprised you have not understood my post. I did not imply that Anandi is not strong. If that was the case, I would not have ended my post by saying she will speak the truth -- as always -- in the court regardless of the cost to herself,

I was looking at A's current position from the POV of others: Everyone expects her to speak the truth as they see it. J' s family wants her to defend J and speak the truth of coffeeshop. S's family wants her to oppose J and speak the truth from the POV of Sanch's pain and suicide attempt. In all this, somewhere, the concern for A -- from BH as well as Shiv -- has been lost.

Take DS: she did support A after J's desertion and found Shiv for her. But once J returned, he was her priority. The day she saw his shoes -- on the day of A-Shiv engagement -- she was crazed with emotion for him. She was willing to sacrifice A even though she was the one who pushed her to Shiv. She asked her to dump S and marry J because she could not bear the pain of her pota. A's pain did not matter to her at all that point. She backstabbed S for J and was awfully glad when he came to call off the marriage. Where was her concern for A? It was Anandi who stood strong at that point and saved herself.

DS used A to get J to agree to marriage. This despite knowing the delicate relationship between them. This is the genesis of the current crisis. After J-Ganga marriage she said A mattered to her but for just two days -- now its is back to MY Pota and he has to be saved -- even if A is the collateral victim.Once he is released via A's truth, she'd be sad for A but she'd be gladder for J. Her throwing him out etc was just for one day.

Now for Bhairon. I respect him a lot but am somewhat disappointed in him now. He has unreservedly accepted J and says he is proud of him. Proud of what? That he filled G's maang in front of a whole big audience? And two days after he broke a six-month old engagement?. He could have told him, I accept that Sa is not suitable for you but the way you went about marrying G was not right. That would have been the OLD Bhairon..

He has also disappointed me with his subtle EBing of A. Why did he tell her that J did not mention she was at the coffee house? This puts enormous pressure on her. This makes her hugely guilty and she will tell the truth at the cost of breaking up with Shiv. Is this not saving one rishta at the cost of another?.

Of course A will tell the truth and nothing but the truth.that truth would have come out anyway -- because A is A.. She need not have been gently pressured by Bhairon or Ganga. On the other side, Shiv should have had the courage of conviction to say let her state the truth as she sees it. He is equally putting pressure on her.One wants her to save J at the cost of her relationship with her own husband; the husband wants her to defame J at the cost of her relationship with BH.
.
About Ganga. She is a nice girl but she can never be A. A would have never accepted a man who filled her maang in the way J did with G. She would walked out in anger and not had anything to do with him till he repaired his relationship with every single person -- in BH and in KB. Instead she keeps telling J he did nothing wrong. Really, he did no wrong?

Jagya -- what can one say about a man who was so much in love with A that he refused to get married and wanted to spend the rest of his life in her memory? First he is in love with A, then in love with Gauri -- to whom he says I will love you till my dying day; this is true love not what I had with A. Then he gets back his love for A, tries all sorts of chicanery to snatch her from Shiv. He continues to pine for her after her marriage and tells her he cannot forget her till his dying day. He hugs Ganga thinking she is A.Two months later, Presto, he is in love with Ganga. And six months later, it is true love again with G, and once again the dialogue: till death do us part.

WHY Anandi, why do you want to save this man? Are you not scared he will enact a fourth marriage and proclaim undying love to yet another woman?

Sa is horrible and deserves to go to hell. But the fact is that people have forgotten J was engaged to her for SIX months during which time her family thought she had completely changed herself. That is what upsets Shiv. From his POV: he asked J if he had second thoughts on the engagement. J said he is fine with marrying Sa. He carried on the charade for six whole months, called Ira mummyji, promised never to hurt her and her daughter and then .broke up with Sa over the coffees house drama. Why would Shiv and family not believe he did this only because he was two-timing Sa with Ganga?. How can anyone,even A, accept the maang-bharo drama? Just two days after he breaks a six-month long engagement, he tells another woman he loves her to distraction and in full view of the former fiancee and her family. How can Ganga says, this is right?

When a distraught Sa questioned J, he said, "no, I don't love you." This after six months of engagement? He had said "no, I don't love you" to Anandi as well. " I love you" and "I don't love you" have become part of his drill now.

Sa may be awful but when a man says "I don't love you" in front a whole big audience, and at that after being engaged to her for six months, any girl will be upset, A broke down and collapsed, Sa plotted revenge.But revenge or not, she did attempt suicide and that cannot not be a concern to her brother and family.

I have gone off the original point. But in all this, the person worst affected is A. J would be released sooner or later --even without A's testimony. Simply because Sa is alive. Bu the damage to A will be difficult to repair.

@Skep I agree largely with you. People have used and misused A at will but my point of diff is she is, and has been strong despite this.


I could like this post a hundred times😳.

Totally agree with the highlighted parts especially, exactly my thoughts. 😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Rohini 😊
Wonderful posts from you - both the initial one and the subsequent one.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

Rohini 😊

Wonderful posts from you - both the initial one and the subsequent one.

I agree, great posts Rohini. My thoughts too.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Rohini

Great posts and great points raised! Agreed with all words! 👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Anandi is truly an orphan ...how ? Her parents were always very much alive , even now Khajan is alive ...besides biological family she got a whole set of godfatherly family who stood rock like behind her , educated her , willed financial assets to her , gave her a grand wedding and resettled her , lady who has 2 families to look out for her ...how is she an orphan ?

On the other hand Ganga's family is dead . Her sasural did not improve or protect her like godfather or godmother but abused her so much she fled . She was character assasinated by Ira, Alok and Sumitra simply coz she had no parents to fight back for her and come flying at them ...THAT is an orphan . She has nothing willed to her as a compensation for abuse in the past but has a vocation that someone guided her to learn so that she can earn her living herself like Chanda ...THAT is an orphan .

From one rich family Anandi goes in another rich family and does social work like hi fi ladies by roaming in cars , sits on financial assets willed by the previous godfather family but conveniently ditches them to the extent that she does not welcome or speak up for Bhairo and does not speak to them outside court and she is a poor orphan ? 😕

And how is Ganga comparable to this goddess in anyway ? Ganga had a totally different life and different form of abuse ! Rape ! Repeated rape ! What will she do when her husband is taken to another city on arrest , when his family does not speak to her , when the one giving her shelter is away ...laugh heehee haa haa and show teeth ? She is oh so justified to shed tears but she wipes them and works in hospital and EACH scene is dominated with Anandi and her tortoise walks and screwed up face with TEARS and Kanhaji monologues that STUN [ they r THAT stupid] and Ganga is the WORST of all ?

Then who is the BEST ? Anandi ?

And why in the world FOR ONCE will Bhairo not bother a bit about his son languishing in jail due to the cockamime story of a spoilt brat ? How is that not caring for Anandi ...where does Anandi even come into this ?😕

And how does telling her about the fact that her name was not taken and hinting that now its upto her is putting enormous pressure on her ? His son is in jail for gods sake ! And she really WAS there ! I say forget hinting he should BLUNTLY tell her to testify on son's behalf !

And lets get something straight here . Anandi will not 'SAVE' Jagya . Coz she CAN'T LIE under oath . Compulsorily she has to tell truth to save her own butt . She REALLY was there . Even Saanchi's Friends can't lie on oath . Jagya will be saved by TRUTH not Anandi the great .

How he treated her in the past does NOT give her a CHOICE to save or turn her back on him ...she CAN'T lie on oath . Lawyer will ask her , judge will look piercingly at her and she has to tell AS IT HAPPENED bas .

Thats all there is to it ...so lets not make it her personal mahaan deed . If she has guts she should LIE and see the repercussions coz if Saanchi's friends squeal and back up Jagya's version , she will be in LEGAL SOUP .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 12 years ago

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