Jagya Sanchi ...are they really poles apart?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Now Anandi is getting more and more worried about the well being Sanchi Jagya alliance which is more or less doomed to fall apart given it's present state of mind of the two individuals involved.

Anandi's belief is that Sanchi Jagya are polls apart and that's why their relationship will not survive.But as Shiv said opposite poles attract and the relationship can work.

But Sanchi and Jagya - Are they really poles apart?

Or are they like poles who are being considered as opposite poles?

Or are they two bands of the same spectrum which starts of with one band and ends up with a different band when it is complete?

Or is Sanchi the past form of Jagya which Jagya is trying to leave behind?

Or is Jagya the future form of Sanchi who ended up as some one dead inside and just existing to make amends for his past deeds and has no thoughts for future and which Sanchi should avoid?


Sanchi - Child of a well to do family who was doted upon and bestowed with every good thing in life by her family.She was never ever expected to give back anything in return for all the love and care she got from her family - not even good behaviour.As a result of which the grown up Sanchi expects her family to honour every wish of hers.She sulks and throws tantrums when she does not get her way and refuses to see the point of view of her family.Because nobody in her family ever questioned her or her line of thinking she also ended up being someone whose thinking has not developed enough to look beyond surface.She makes assumptions based on a very superficial examination of things.

In short she is just someone who doesn't think beyond herself and her pleasures and sorrows and goes about trying to get what she wants irrespective of other's feelings no matter who gets hurt and consequences of her actions on her own self.

Sanchi's current state - Now she decided that Jagya is what she wants.She has been intrigued by him even before she met him and probably afer learning that he has been kicked out by the family made him more intriguing for her it must have appealed to her rebellious self.She met him and saw a side of him which she found very appealing and decided that she has to have him.Not once did she think how her life with him would be.To her he just seems like a doll which she can dress up according to her tastes and parade and his family she thinks she can manipulate to suit her wishes as well like they are some dolls.Her entire approach to this seems to be very similar to a doll play.This is how she thinks of her future.

Jagya - brought up by DS who spoilt him and indulged every wish of his which ended up in him becoming a weak minded individual who gets angry hurt and resentful if his wishes are not met because his choice of things and views were never questioned by his doting grand mother he ended up as someone whose perception of life is very shallow and who made decisions based on superficial appearances of things.

Jagya of once upon a time - Combination of the way he viewed things in life and his own selfish nature and his sense of entitlement has lead to his own down fall.He too viewed Anandi and Gauri as toys to be played with and thought they can be tossed away when he is bored with them.But unfortunately or fortunately life decided to toss him around until he learnt his lessons.

Jagya of the present and his state of mind - He considers himself as a failure in every aspect of life be it in his professional life, family life where he failed as a son person life he failed as a man and as a man as well as a human being. A part of him is dead which can never be revived.Now he does not even think of a future for himself.He just exists and tries to make amends for his past by trying to make his parents happy and lessening his guilt with regard his behaviour towards Anandi by trying to do something for Ganga.He also is a much wiser more patient man than before because of all that he has learnt from life

Sanchi's future state of mind and her life- Will it be somewhat similar to that of Jagya's current state?
What will happen if she gets married to Jagya and realises that marriage is no doll play and the price she needs to pay for getting her object of affection is much more than just wearing Gaghra's and try not to trip on them?Will she be able to pay the price and be happy with what she got?
What will happen when she realises that there is lot more to Jagya beyond the surface that she has seen and realises she cannot handle the burden of Jagya's past?What will happen when she realises she made a mistake?What will happen if she realises that she does not have it in her to pay the price?What will happen when Jagya breaks off the marriage?

After this failed relationship with Jagya whether it is an engagement that is called off or a marriage that disintegrated will she end up like Jagya, a walking dead person that he is now who is full of regrets over his past?Jagya now that he has grown stronger than he was before may come off it with less damage than Sanchi.

Shouldn't the respective families especially Shiv and Anandi who know both Jagya and Sanchi very well be thinking about it this way?

Instead of trying to break the alliance shouldn't they let it take it's own course and let everyone realise that Sanchi is the past that Jagya is trying to put behind and Jagya is the future that Sanchi should avoid?

These are my thoughts regarding the reasons why Jagya and Sanchi's alliance is bound to fail not because they are poles apart but they are two forms where one form has evolved from the other form.




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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well, I think they are poles apart, not just because of their upbringing, but because of their expectations from life. And that will be the reason why their relationship won't work.

Saanchi:
- Her attraction for J is not love but obsession, or some kind of possession she wants in life.
- Doesn't understand what 'marriage' refers to. Believes that marriage is more about remaining romantic and is an entry pass to keep close to J . Can't visualise life beyond that.
- She wants J but not his surroundings, hence she is making dire effort to change him, to what she perceives is right.
- Very dreamy, like any girl of her age, but clueless on consequences of life after marriage.

Jagya:
- A guy with 2 failed relationships and totally disinterested in marriage
- Does not find any comfort or solace in Saanchi. He is in dire need of solace, after what he has gone through. However Saanchi is far from bringing him this solace
- Is no longer dreamy with respect to a relationship, but needs a partner who can understand what it takes to have a broken relationship. For this a person with an experience of a broken relationship (pain) may be more compatible. They would then both find solace in each other.

Hence the needs and expectations of these two from each other are poles apart, and that's why the marriage can't work.

Sa in my opinion is not reflecting past Jagya. J in his past was selfish / self-centered but he was not a brat like Sa. He mistreated A, but he was quite a compassionate person in his own ways. Sa is just self-obsessed human being. She even hardly cares for her own family.

Can't really comment how Sa will end up as if this alliance broke. May be a combined version of Teepri & Gauri. Depends on how her family helps her out.


Edited by Missesha - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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It's true that poles apart people do come together and things work out for them but it's because they have the tolerance to tolerate someone who is completely opposite of them which Saanchi doesn't...do you think Saanchi has the patience to tolerate the lifestyle to Singhs and specially Jagya...is she stable enough that her feelings will remain strong for Jagya and give stability in their relation?...no...Saanchi's love is basically infatuation which has got stronger because everyone supported her...her love is not strong like Shiv's to make things work for her relation...she is instable and not someone who can adjust to changes openly...if she is not able to adjust with Anandi how is she going to adjust with the environment from where Anandi came? 😕

Shiv and Shekhars need to understand that opposite do attracts and makes stable relation but only if both partners are open with the difference of their partners which Saanchi isn't...she is trying to change Jagya completely instead of trying to understand his lifestyle whereas Jagya is ready to adjust with Saanchi's thinking to make this relation work...Gauri being a doctor herself knows how emergencies occur at anytime but not Saanchi...she can never understand that responsibilities of a doctor...i think it's totally stupid to come up with this logic that if Anandi and Shiv could adjust and live a happy married life then even Jagya-Saanchi can because AnSh are completely opposite of Jagya-Saanchi and have patience to understand each other's feelings...if Saanchi would have bee so understanding she would have never thought of marriage with Jagya without knowing his feelings...Saanchi present behaviour and madness is a perfect indication that she is not someone who can handle anything complicated...she will take every marriage issue to her mother or Sumitra and tell them to make it right then try herself


Instead of trying to break the alliance shouldn't they let it take it's own course and let everyone realise that Sanchi is the past that Jagya is trying to put behind and Jagya is the future that Sanchi should avoid?
Very beautifully put up thought but the problem is Singhs and Shekhars are already tied up by AnSh and if Jagya-Saanchi alliance breaks Saanchi will first blame everything on Jagya and Singhs will defend Jagya...after so much drama and embarassing insults to each other wouldn't it be difficult to bring back the sweetness b/w the relation of these families...if this alliance will happen saanchi may learn her lesson but not before creating drama and souring every relation b/w singhs and shekhars
Edited by libsrocks - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Aparna - a very thought provoking post- thank you..

Personally, I think Sanchi the past form of Jagya which Jagya is trying to leave behind..I can see the same I-me-myself attitude reflecting in Saanchi. Come what may, I do not care how it impacts my family - my happiness is important- What I say or wish must be fulfilled..

In this I can see the parallels on how J was brought up by DS and the way in which Shekhars particularly Daddu have pampered Saanchi. If anyone can show mirror to Saanchi, it has to be J.

Leave aside the question of marriage with J. Unless and until there is an attitudinal change in Saanchi, her future relationships will always be in peril. Her continuing to nurse grudges against anyone whom she perceives is a threat to her happiness will lead her to the path of self destruction.. This is what the Shekhars have to think about!! Why do they not question her responsibilities towards her family, make her aware of them??
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Esha at present they only look like poles apart.
Jagya started of exactly like the way Sanchi is right now a selfish immature and not knowing what is good for him very impatient when things did not go his way.This nature of him is what landed him in trouble.
Just like Jagya who thought he was in love with Gauri Sanchi also thinks that she is n love with Jagya.
Jagya rushed into a relationship with Gauri thinking it is love and he would get lot more from Gauri than he is getting from Anandi but he never really let go of Anandi and he could never really deal with Gauri's insecurities and he failed to make Gauri feel secure because of his own immaturity just like Sanchi is failing big time in giving him the solace he needs now.
The reason why Sanchi cannot handle Jagya is her selfishness and immaturity.

J was quite callous in the way he mistreated Anandi he never cared how hurt she got in the process.his was way before he walked in with Gauri. For him Anandi at time was just an obstacle in his path to happiness with Gauri. Same way Sanchi sees Ganga as an obstacle her happiness with Jagya. He tossed aside Anandi and Sanchi is trying to rid herself of Ganga.
He treated his parents also very shabbily.He did not care how he would be hurting them when he rejected the hospital that they built for them.For him family was just there to fulfil his wishes just like Sanchi expects her parents to dance to her tunes.


Sanchi is very much like Jagya of past who only knew how to take and for whom loving a person meant possessing that person.At present though Jagya wants to give he has got nothing to give and Sanchi knows only to take. Thta is the reason the relationship will fail.
The present J is a product of his past.If it had not been for his past he would not be this way.
Sanchi may end up in a bad shape and she may fall just like Jagya did when he was faced with failures.

Edited by aparnauma - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yes Jagya and Sanchi are poles apart.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice post..
I think only on the 'me, myself' front Sanchi is the past form of Jagya. Jagya also thought of his happiness only in the past. But he was never as spoiled brat as Sanchi. Neither he was as immature as Sanchi is currently. There were times when he was considerate towards his family and Anandi, even in the time when his relationship with Gauri was on high.. For example in Badi Masi's illness he stayed with the family. Also his relationship with Gauri was not as rushed as Sanchi's obsession with him. They studied together for entire 3 yrs of MBBS. (I think at the time of their marriage they had already completed MBBS and doing intern). Here Sanchi has hardly spent 2-3 months with Jagya and she is dreaming of life with him. I think the problem of Jagya was not immaturity but Sanchi's problem is she is absolutely immature.
Coming to Sanchi's future, she will get very big shock after the alliance breaks, but that will not be a lifetime punishment for her. First of all it's just infatutaion which she is feeling for Jagya, so it should be comparatively easier for her. Second thing is she will have her family to support her to come out of the trauma. Not sure if she will be reformed after the incident or more spoiled... In case of Jagya, he realized that he has lost everything that's why he was shattered from the roots. But Sanchi is not going to loose anything apart from her infatuation.
Edited by suzzane22 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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yeah they're poles apart...if they get into any kind of relationship, only one partner will be able to have what he/she wants...I think that will be Sanchi...Jagya is willing to change for Sanchi...which is ridiculous...because Jagya and Singhs should realize that he has already changed permanently...life, experience and pain has changed him from the inside out...but we have someone trying to impose her image of what's right and wrong on him now, namely Sanchi...he looks utmost unhappy with her right now...it won't be a relationship where both partners are willing to compromise...Sanchi loves Jagya selfishly and obsessively...and she doesn't seem to care that Jagya has diff likes/needs/interests...she thinks she'll change him, she'll get him to become a new person...which at this point in Jagya's life...is impossible...if you truly love someone, you will try to bring happiness into their lives...and I don't see Sanchi doing that...she tries to give him what SHE THINKS he needs... but in reality, she has no clue what he needs...if you love someone, you won't try to change them...you'll accept them as they are...and I don't think she's willing to accept Jagya as he is, in fact I don't think she'll even accept Jagya's family as they are...

keeping the past aside...they are at present...poles apart...billions of miles apart...Sanchi has negative inclinations...she is very mean spirited...and Jagya seems unaware of all this...it spells disaster, and a dangerous union...just my opinion.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I dont think Jagia was like Sanchi. His problem was different. He also went thru a child marriage.
Lived in a male domnated society. He was the victim of sudden exposure to another culture at a
delicate age. By nature he was a compassionate person. One could not call him a brat. Ds , though
She indulged him, he was petrified of her. She was ready to rip him apart with a cane once and
Gehna saved him. For messing up with his progress report Bairon beat him to death. If he
Mis spoke with any elders in the house he would have been slapped. But Sanchi's case is not that.
She misbehaves with A, and other elders. All she gets is a stare. She should ave been slapped
And slapped for her big mouth.
In fact in Jagia's case it was Ds who was cruel to A more than J. It is just that at some point he
Got attracted to another woman. Such things could happen with a woman also.
They were different before and they are poles apart now. Shiv is in denial about the character of his
Sister. Unlike poles attract provided the unlikeness are positive attributes which can complement
Each other. But here Sanchi s a total misfit. J can only eBnd a little and beyond that the bend will
Break him. If not him it will break his family that he and Anadi love. Sanchi can go to hell.
But i dont want Jagia hurt. He desrves a good life with a woman who loves him and his family and
Fit in.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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now jagya and sanchi r poles apart because for sanchi only her own happiness such going with friends watching movies only matter if anyone stop it she started crying like baby .for her family values family responsibility family respect does not matter at all wheras now in case of jagya family values family respect much matter than his own happiness .he may comprise with his own happiness but he will not compromise if sanchi disrespect his family values .he will not speak for himself but he will not tolerate if sanchi misbehave with his family so naturally marriage will break

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