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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: yaherd15


BUT you are telling a certain group of people what to think/feel/do, though aren't you?? it's not up to you do so by giving people advice. So just leave it alone. You can take a horse to a pond to drink water, but you can't force it to drink the water. #truestory

And again, it's naive to think these people would be out of work or would be hurt when the truth of the business is that one show ends and another one pops up to take it's place. Also what storyline??? I have been keeping up with the WUs and I don't even recognize the show anymore through reading just the WUs. As for viewer's feelings, shows have to end eventually and BV has had a fairly long run anyways.

Also what about the many who have been hurt/angered by the replacement. it's not a few people dear. It's not generalizing either. It's been all I have heard about on those who watch BV say.

Again, thanks, but no thanks for the free advice.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: yaherd15


Also what about the many who have been hurt/angered by the replacement. it's not a few people dear. It's not generalizing either. It's been all I have heard about on those who watch BV say.

Again, thanks, but no thanks for the free advice.


Yes of course they have been hurt and its a huge population. What channel did was absolutely wrong. There is no doubt about that (assuming it was channel's fault). But now there is no way to remedy that. In the current situation, they will be hurt even if the show goes on or shuts down. They are not getting their favorite actress back in this show. But when they want revenge in the form of shutting down the show, then they are not considering that in this process, another large number of people will be hurt, just to satisfy their revenge. Yes, you have been wronged, but then u also feel the pain when u r wronged. Why do u want to put another group of people in that same scenario and hurt them? They will also undergo that pain which u r feeling for no wrong done by them. You were innocent and the channel has done wrong with u, but u want to punish the other viewers in ur form of taking revenge, and doing wrong against another group of innocent people.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Whiterider,

Great post! Agree 100%, and like this the best:

Any kind of hateful or negative thinking is bad for the mental health of that person and also the people around them. If we hate something we should not only try to stay away from it, but also try to talk and think as less about it as possible.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Since the TM has specifically directed the thread at me I feel I shld give my POV.Yest I was too upset to reply.
Since u are a male probably u wont undestand why suddenly sane n intelligent people hav turned so called negative.But I will try.
First of all we r not Pratz fans thts the biggest misconception u people hav.Pratz leaving the show is not a big deal.She will come in another show and her loyal fans can see her there.
We are AnSh fans...Shiv Anandi fans.
That AnSh which had amazing chemistry...their screen presence was scorching...most of their scenes left me with a silly grin on my face.
They had a surreal quality which M&B stories are made of.
So woman all over fell in love with AnSh...they inspired stories...VMs..etc.
All was going fine...ppl were eagerly anticipating the culmination of their live track wen suddenly they broke the dream by replacing Pratz.
Lets not get into detail as to what happened in the back end...weather it was PH channel or pratzi's decision it dosent matter.
This replacement was done in a very haphazard way n its def not planned.
i am not claiming any high level source just few calls to colors and PH office has confirmed it.
Anyways coming back to the replacement.Give me ur honest answer...is Toral good enough?

The ans which I get frm even most practical viewer is that..yeah she lacks X factor..she will improve etc etc.
Just accept the fact the she cant be Anandi atleast never part of AnSh.
This is the ans I got from an exhausted PH guy wen I called them "Yeah we knw ppl r not happy...we r getting lot of calls frm foreign audience and angry channel operators..."
I asked him "do u think she is good enough"
he replied "no mam we know she is not upto it but we dont hav a choice"
wen the makers themselves are not convinced how do u expect us to accept her.
I am displeased because I feel cheated and taken for granted.The channel has acted in very haughty manner...Its like a slap on our faces.We will show whatever we want u hav to accept it.
I know BV is not a love story and I dont expect them to keep showing AnSh story forever but atleast complete gracefully wat u hav started...why didnt they plan the replacement properly...They shld hav finished the AnSh story then bring in the replacement The outrage would hav been less.
Wat they hav done now is pure cheating and I dint buy the story tht pratzi left suddenly actors r bound by contract they cant leave the show in middle.
I really tried giving toral a chance coz I m big Sid fan
I tried warching BV for Sid but I couldent...its getting worse.
Frankly yest's confession was cringworthy with no magic no chemistry.
As a viewer I hav full right to express my displeasure.And I dont want BV to end ciz its a torture now..
Not just want I am ardently wishing tht it ends and I hav every right to do that
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ok, thanks Neha, for giving such a sensible reply, and its one of the nicest posts I have seen from u regarding this topic, post replacement. I will try to answer some points one by one.

Originally posted by: nniks

Since the TM has specifically directed the thread at me I feel I shld give my POV.Yest I was too upset to reply.
Since u are a male probably u wont undestand why suddenly sane n intelligent people hav turned so called negative.But I will try.


I am sorry to say that being a male has nothing to do with this. I used to watch Kairee - Rishta Khatta Meetha. I started watching the show because of Preeti Chaudari. She was beautiful and I loved her. But after starting to watch the show, I fell in love with all the characters and actors. For quite some time that was my most favorite show. But then they suddenly changed Jay Bhanushali and brought in a new actor JUST before the love confession scene of Ambi and Anuj. Just like u guys tried, I really tried to like the new actor but just couldnt. He just couldnt take Jay's place and the chemeistry was missing. I was really hurt and at the same time the storyline also started going downhill. I was really hurt. So I stopped watching the show (my most favorite at that time) and never watched it again. So I actually know EXACTLY what u r going through now.
But I never ever wished for the show to end because of that. Because there were people watching it and some people still loved it. One of my friends still liked it after the change. So I just switched over. I was hurt, but I had the power to switch to another show. Why should I wish for the show to end and also hurt those that are still loving and watching it?

Originally posted by: nniks

First of all we r not Pratz fans thts the biggest misconception u people hav.Pratz leaving the show is not a big deal.She will come in another show and her loyal fans can see her there.
We are AnSh fans...Shiv Anandi fans.


Well then I have to beg to differ with u slightly. U do not speak for all of u. There are people among u who are specifically upset that Pratyusha has left, and they are specifically PRATZ fans. While there are others who are like u and just ANSH fans. Just like among those who support the change, some of them are Toral fans, while the others are just BV fans for the story.


Originally posted by: nniks

Give me ur honest answer...is Toral good enough?
The ans which I get frm even most practical viewer is that..yeah she lacks X factor..she will improve etc etc.
Just accept the fact the she cant be Anandi atleast never part of AnSh.


Well let me put this the most HONEST way. The first 2 days of the replacement I liked Toral because she was good in the strong bold scenes. And I am sorry to say much better than Pratz. Then when the soft, romantic scenes came, I WHOLE HEARTEDLY agree with u that she was below par and not upto the mark. But I wanted to give her a few days and enjoy the show bcoz of the story. For few days she didnt improve much in this dept. But then suddenly in the day before yesterday, in the car scene with Shiv, I saw a remarkable change in her acting. The simple SHY expression that was missing from her had suddenly come back and I loved it. And that shy expression was not similar to Pratz. This was the shy expression of a grown and matured woman in love.
And then finally yesterday's episode. I am leaving aside the water scene. Dont want to get in another argument on that. But the scenes before that, she was just OUTSTANDING. Every SINGLE piece of emotion was perfectly played and made me fall in love with her truly for the first time.
I know that ur opinion will never change, but I just wish u can rewatch yesterday's episode once more (upto before the water scene at least) without any prejudice and give an honest opinion. I know that u will still say the same, but I just wish u could do it.

Originally posted by: nniks

I am displeased because I feel cheated and taken for granted.The channel has acted in very haughty manner...Its like a slap on our faces.We will show whatever we want u hav to accept it.
I know BV is not a love story and I dont expect them to keep showing AnSh story forever but atleast complete gracefully wat u hav started...why didnt they plan the replacement properly...They shld hav finished the AnSh story then bring in the replacement The outrage would hav been less.
Wat they hav done now is pure cheating and I dint buy the story tht pratzi left suddenly actors r bound by contract they cant leave the show in middle.
I really tried giving toral a chance coz I m big Sid fan
I tried warching BV for Sid but I couldent...its getting worse.
Frankly yest's confession was cringworthy with no magic no chemistry.
As a viewer I hav full right to express my displeasure.And I dont want BV to end ciz its a torture now..
Not just want I am ardently wishing tht it ends and I hav every right to do that


Yes u have every right to it, but PLEASE also consider the fact that if u have been hurt due to the channel's fault, u know how it feels to be hurt. Why do u want to put another group of people through the same hurt feeling that u r feeling now. They still love the show and will be as much hurt as u r currently. Why do u wish that same hurt to happen with other people too, who have done nothing wrong to u? Why do u want to punish them due to the channel's fault?
I am sorry if I am being judgemental. Tried to give my answer as best as I could.
Edited by whiterider - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: whiterider

Hi guys. I am posting here for the first time because I am just fed up with all the negativity going on around here. The last time I actively took part in forum discussion was in DMG forum, during the SR/AR fighting. I was an ardent SR fan and actively defended it from all the bashings from AR fans. But after few days, when I realized that its simply a waste of time and energy, I gave up and have stayed away from ever commenting in any posts.

I have been following this forum for a long time now, and read all the posts here, but never comment. Just to stay away from all kinds of arguments since I am peace loving. But today I am finally sharing a few thoughts. I dont care if people bash me for it, coz I dont think I will comment back much.


1. The very reason we live is to look for some happiness. Now happiness is very subjective and depends on ur own definition of happiness. But one thing is certain. If we try to look at the POSITIVE side of everything, it can make us happy. But its not possible to bring out the positives from all situations. In a case when its impossible for someone to look for something positive in a particular situation, then he/she should try to avoid that as much as possible. Because the more u hate something or someone, it will create more negativity in u, and if u discuss about it with others, then it will spread that negativity to them also.

Any kind of hateful or negative thinking is bad for the mental health of that person and also the people around them. If we hate something we should not only try to stay away from it, but also try to talk and think as less about it as possible. Because discussing about something we hate, with other fellow minded people may make us feel good for the short time, but in the long run, it only adds to the negativity inside u people, and when u r doing it in the presence of people who love that thing, then it also adversely affects them. This only starts a useless bickering war, and adversely affects the mental peace of all those people.

2. My complain here is NOT against those who do not like the new actor or the new Anandi. Its NOT against those who dont like her acting and criticize her. Its perfectly normal to not like the acting of a particular actor and express ur feelings. That is not negativity. Thats a healthy discussion.

My complain is against THOSE, who are constantly bashing the channel, and above all the SHOW BV. They are WISHING for the TRPs of the show to come down, and for the show to shut down. They are doing it inspite of knowing the fact that there are still a huge number of people who love this show and always want it to continue.

If u hate the change u have the perfect liberty to stop watching it and move on. U have the right to go to posts specifically made for u and show ur discontent. But to wish for the show to go down the drain in the very forum of the show, because u personally do not like a change, and knowing the fact that a large number of people will be extremely hurt and sad if the show closes down; that is NOT ACCEPTABLE in any manner.

3. Let me give an example. I watch a lot of english tv series, and 'The Big Bang Theory' is my most favorite. It is a sitcom about a group of nerds and their day to day lives. It has a huge fan following all over the world, and its current season has the highest ratings and viewers among all US shows. Now there is another show called 'Community' which is also about nerds but not so popular. Now according to the Community fans, Community is "supposedly" a much better show than TBBT(the big bang theory), and deserves a much larger audience. Theres no problem with that.
But what they do is, they come to the reviews of BBT episodes in IGN, and bash BBT as much as possible saying that its a crappy show and should be closed down. Now initially I was interested in Community and wanted to check it out. But after seeing so much negativity from the fans, who need to constantly bash another show just to prove that their show is better, I decided to stay away from Community forever.
They dont understand that while bashing BBT they are hurting the feelings of all the fans of BBT who love the show and want a healthy discussion about the show in the comment section of the episode review. But that becomes impossible due to the constant bashing from Community fans, and the BBT fans have to spend their time defending their show.

4. Its the same thing here. There are a lot of people who LOVE this show because of its plot and storyline. HECK. The show was IMMENSELY successful for a LONG TIME BEFORE this particular actor even joined the show. So why should we want the show to stop and shut down, because of one actor change, when there are a LARGE cast of immensely talented actors in the show (Surekha Sikri, Anup Soni) who have AS MUCH HAND in making this show so popular as ANYBODY else.

5. BV was always about the story and social message and never about a particular couple or love track. No matter how awesome, the love track between 2 people is always secondary in this show, and the overall plot and social situation is always primary. As long as the plot is good, the show will go on.

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I dont care if people bash me or call it moral policing. I have not even taken the names of the actors in my post except in an example. I have no right to tell someone to like or dislike something or to post or not post something. But I have every right to retaliate against those who are trying to demean my favorite show and wishing for it to end publicly in its very forum, and spreading negativity and harming the healthy discussion of the show in this forum for those who love the show for what it is and not for any one particular actor.


Wonderful post👏- U told everything that i always wanted to tell- always backed out coz am not so good in expressing. Thank you for a beautiful post
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Posted: 12 years ago
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thank u so much for this wonderful post.. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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How long did kairee survive after the replacement ? not even one year even though it had much smaller audience
I tried very hard i just cant accept toral... i rewatched n it seemed as if Shiv is cheating on anandi.
i kept on thinking with P this scene wld hav been out of this world...I am too stubborn to settle for less...its eaiser for ppl who didnt invest too much emotions in ansh but foolishly I did.
they might be able to pull it off for this week but wat abt the rest??
n that P's flashback actually ruined it for them.
bv might continue but its just ab ordinary show now and ansh an avg tv couple.
and I do consider other viwers feelings too but just with so much backlash can it counter MCI and IPL ?
i m.not talking abt online backlash but normal audience.
My in laws live in a small town where everone knows everyone n believe it ir not...100% ppl hav stopped watching..my sister in delhi said all her frns colleagues hav stopped watching..n backlash frm europe and US is even more severe...
I asked almost everyone abt their openion till now I hav not received any positive feedback...infact my aunties r criticising shiv for going arnd with another girl :-D
Ignore the trps they dont represent the whole population n they r often fixed..
how long will BV survive with such negative response
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: nniks

How long did kairee survive after the replacement ? not even one year even though it had much smaller audience
I tried very hard i just cant accept toral... i rewatched n it seemed as if Shiv is cheating on anandi.
i kept on thinking with P this scene wld hav been out of this world...I am too stubborn to settle for less...its eaiser for ppl who didnt invest too much emotions in ansh but foolishly I did.
they might be able to pull it off for this week but wat abt the rest??
n that P's flashback actually ruined it for them.



Kairee's storyline did not have such a big scope as BV. It was a small family drama serial and it ended becoz it had been past its run. Not because of actor change. The writers were running out of plot points.
Yes I absolutely understand if u r not able to accept the replacement, bcoz I have been in ur shoes once. I feel sorry for that, and I wish that this had not happened.

Originally posted by: nniks

bv might continue but its just ab ordinary show now and ansh an avg tv couple.


Thats exactly the attitude we hope to get from u. U r hurt and we feel sorry for that. It was not our fault. We know that u will have grievances which is perfectly natural, and u r not being able to like BV anymore, which is perfectly understandable. U can express ur discontent as much as u can and no one will stop u. We only hope that u give us ur best wishes so that we can continue enjoying the show we love, and not curse it since that unfortunately and indirectly comes back to us.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well i hav already cursed bv so much tht its bound to rub on it :-D
N sorry to say I m not the only one...thrre r millions like me how many will u stop

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