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Posted: 12 years ago

#801

Originally posted by: dixie123
The BV Cvs really lurk around the forum both in the FT and the AT..
People who were bashing AnSh for bailing out their hero hopefully got the answers today direct from their hero's mouth.

Still i'd say that AnSh need not have involved and created so much drama during that track. That drama was irritating and sheer nonsense. This twisting of J's words is just another crap by CV's.

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mahi12

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Posted: 12 years ago

#802

Originally posted by: -Perseus-

Still i'd say that AnSh need not have involved and created so much drama during that track. That drama was irritating and sheer nonsense. This twisting of J's words is just another crap by CV's.

agreed cvs are trying to prove their nonsense as right they are twisting Jagaya's words now they fooled us then changed their plan i mean seriously they told us Jagaya is redeeming then wrong promotion of self discovery with that send him out then deliver one lecture to lal singh i don't want any comfort of my family an easy way to me for my penance then making him try to call at home making his father accept Bhairo is the most wise person in this serial in my opinion he accepted jagaya's decision and supported it but then cvs named it escapism now trying to accept from Jagaya's mouth it was escapism not a fan of jagaya speaking here just a neutral viewer but i still call that track was dismissed by cvs wrongly AnSh were wrongly forced there twice wrongly forced one for bailing out and second dragging him back home .. cvs can never ever prove to me this mess they did as right no matter how many confessions they make of Jagaya in this case its nonsense

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Libra123

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Posted: 12 years ago

#803

news in sbs, that jagya is running away to Mumbai without informing his family, but informing anandi. What kind of redemption is this? First tell us that jagya has become matured, then again make him run away without informing... Cvs again proved that jagya is their favorite play toy...they will continue to play with his character as they want, twist his words and tracks to make anandi matajee and shiv maharaj mahaan, continue to use jagya to make story for anandi...nothing new...this is going on from day 1. Sad part, even though it was gong on from day 1, they always left clues that he will be strong and matured one day...but no...they deceived me terribly and many too...

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divine_ram

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Posted: 12 years ago

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@libra123. I agree with you completely. Why does jagya not inform he family while going to Mumbai ? When ur showing that jagya has matured a lot but then again a matured person will not save his family without informing his whereabouts. Instead informs anandi and shiv. I am sure jagya will disturb ansh during the night time while anandi is trying to confess her love to shiv. Why do thy show bth jagya and anandi interfering in each other lives. Stupid Singh family blaming anandi for jagya immaturity of not informing them in the first place. We have to listen to anndi bhashan to Singh family about Gaya POV regarding gauri.plz mar both their Iives lead minimal intervention otherwise the trps will fall even more below.

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Sukanya

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Posted: 12 years ago

#805

Originally posted by: -Perseus-

Still i'd say that AnSh need not have involved and created so much drama during that track. That drama was irritating and sheer nonsense. This twisting of J's words is just another crap by CV's.

Agreed. It was sheer drama to show some one as a fool and that person can only understand if some one else rubs his nose in.

The only thing that CVs have in mind is to show some one as bad as bad can be so that some one else will look next to god.

I believe,Jagya had his realisation and that is why he went away for a while. He had already written to convey as such.

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stuti..

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Posted: 12 years ago

#806

Originally posted by: -Perseus-

Still i'd say that AnSh need not have involved and created so much drama during that track. That drama was irritating and sheer nonsense. This twisting of J's words is just another crap by CV's.

Cvs defended evasively. For when they put this 'agreeing' dialogue in Jagya's mouth, they conveniently sidelined entirely different and sound reasons they themselves had put in Jagya's letter or in his explanation to Lalsingh's much stronger exhortation. Namely, a spartan life, consideration of their shame on him, and a sound promise to return after self cleansing. These had nothing to do with 'running away from pain' that Cvs have planted today in his speech. Anyways, take a bow. Their subtlety, artfulness and crafts.😆

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Yash Pal Dhavan

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Posted: 12 years ago

#807

Sorry to say, it seems to me a mountain (albeit a small one) is being made out of a molehill. I saw nothing in yesterday's episode that I found rebuke-worthy. Of course it is true that Jagya ran away from pain, from shame, and to do work amongst the poverty stricken to feel in his own mind a 'mukti' from his mistakes. Much like we go to a gurdwara and sweep the floor or clean people's shoes, it is a sense of atonement. To say that CVs is hell bent on denigrating his character is an exaggeration of the truth. He did make mistakes and the general feeling is/was that he had not properly atoned for them.

His Ganga interlude was great, a confession from the heart, just flowed out naturally, and Ganga was a simple and well meaning listener who was not going to judge him.

He could not have done this with DS, as DS would have said "Oh mera ladesar, naashta lao ladesar ke liye", Sumitra would have not even understood, Gehna/Basant let us leave alone, only Bhairon, but with him Jagya had a strange relationship where he wanted father to accept him and hence he would not have been free to express his thoughts which he was not proud of and which he had kept to himself all this while.

Ganga's responses were outstanding, script, delivery, facial gestures, quiet dignity. For the first time since she has arrived, I understood what she said.

I found the episode perfect.

Magar kuch toh log hai jinko kuch na kuch kehna hee parega. As I said earlier in a post, let us not bang CVs all the time, some of the times let us appreciate and give them some encouragement on a job well done.

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stuti..

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Posted: 12 years ago

#808

To put the things in perspective, that all is not 'frustration'- am copy, pasting a note that I put in andv's WU earlier...

That was a beautiful script. For two reasons; 1.) The confession was impromptu and artless. 1.) Self appraisal was honest and unrelenting- to the point, he is not inclined to defend even some inadequate charge re Gauri. Though, Cvs evasively defended a humbug gaffe- a current hauling an ex- I don't care much. For beauty of the 'end'- today's conscious remorse- far exceeds ugliness of one of the 'means'.

Depth was bestowed on two characters. On Ganga, by demonstration of a perceptive mind that quickly grasps a latent fault. On Jagya, by way of an unwavered admission of mistakes and guilts. There was no desire for any 'beatification', as Ganga tried to laud him initially, or later, when she oscillated to a rap on the knuckle that he accepted artlessly. This steadiness, honesty far better convinces the purpose than the kind of a haphazard 'redemption' that they were strewing- some bombastic frills like, 'Jagat to Jagdish' name plate and dialogue,uh.

His acceptance of the 'charge', with a prompt thanks, also answers all the cacophony over his alleged 'third affair'. So far, there is None. Beside, setting him up for a clearance on a legitimate din over 'Bombay blues'.

One notable manifestation of this altered person is in a fine change of the expression by actor or his director. No longer 'shifty' eyes.😆A steady, penetrating gaze, matching an underlying steadiness! Will they maintain this new found poise when tomorrow he stumbles on the other 'confession'? Curious.

Edited by stuti.. - 12 years ago

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Uma

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Posted: 12 years ago

#809

Originally posted by: stuti..
To put the things in perspective, that all is not 'frustration'- am copy, pasting a note that I put in andv's WU earlier...

That was a beautiful script. For two reasons; 1.) The confession was impromptu and artless. 1.) Self appraisal was honest and unrelenting- to the point, he is not inclined to defend even some inadequate charge re Gauri. Though, Cvs evasively defended a humbug gaffe- a current hauling an ex- I don't care much. For beauty of the 'end'- today's conscious remorse- far exceeds ugliness of one of the 'means'.
Depth was bestowed on two characters. On Ganga, by demonstration of a perceptive mind that quickly grasps a latent fault. On Jagya, by way of an unwavered admission of mistakes and guilts. There was no desire for any 'beatification', as Ganga tried to laud him initially, or later, when she oscillated to a rap on the knuckle that he accepted artlessly. This steadiness, honesty far better convinces the purpose than the kind of a haphazard 'redemption' that they were strewing- some bombastic frills like, 'Jagat to Jagdish' name plate and dialogue,uh.
His acceptance of the 'charge', with a prompt thanks, also answers all the cacophony over his alleged 'third affair'. So far, there is None. Beside, setting him up for a clearance on a legitimate din over 'Bombay blues'.
One notable manifestation of this altered person is in a fine change of the expression by actor or his director. No longer 'shifty' eyes.😆A steady, penetrating gaze, matching an underlying steadiness! Will they maintain this new found poise when tomorrow he stumbles on the other 'confession'? Curious.

Stuti.,

Per me., the 'means' was never the Current...

Its always been the 'alleged third affair' (though its too early to say that)...😉

The character was bought in only for that sole purpose...but since this character could not have shown him the supposedly right track., it had been done by the 'sane' other...😆

As I have argued many times earlier...its not the situation of Current vs Ex at' al...per me.

A situation of a Good Son vs. disillusioned...😆

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CV's have done a really good job w.r.t J - Ganga convo y/day...the rap on the knuckle was subtle yet., strong enough...and J had been humble enough to see his immeadiate responsibility.

Anyhow., me too curious...on how he will handle the other confession as well as what is the situation that would be awaiting him...

Hoping he will maintain the steadiness...😆

Edited by adi2512 - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago

#810

i want suspense of jagya gauri relationship in future to be disclosed by bv cvs soon .aur ganga ka gauri ke prati itni sympathy ??? khair koi baat nahi tum usse mili nahi ho na jub tum usse milogi to woh tumhe apni awaj se tumhare kaan ko bhi nahi chodegi tumhe bhi bura bhala kahegi .phir aur dikhana uske prati sympathy

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