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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Hina - I am not a psych student, but I do have a level of empathy for genuine victims and I have taken a psych course or three as well. Anandi sitting in the rain was also bewakoofi. Self hurt like cutting...a manifestation of her emotional pain. Self destructive behavior. A SELFISH BEHAVIOUR...no matter who is doing it. But, I do differentiate btwn Anandi and Jugat is that Jugat is not a VICTIM. He is the AUTHOR of his OWN MISERY. So, no sympathy from me. I don't care about his WOE ME!

I have no issues with what the CVs are showing - absolutely none...cuz self indulgent breakdown is in keeping with the selfish essence of Jugya.

There was no point in him waiting there, Anandi was not going to return...that's why he left and did not wait. As for not wanting to interfere in her happiness he spewed that line of BS at the haveli infront of B after "learning" of her engagement...we all know how true that bit was...Likewise if he had meant what he told Bhairon about not wanting to interfere in Anandi's happiness and that being the wajah he left the Sagaai then what was he doing at her school again???

Agree with you about Gauri having to ask J for maafi b4 he's obligated to forgive her. I am not more fond of G's conduct then J's ...my only point is that he's done more to his family and if he thinks he's deserving of their forgiveness cuz he's "sorry" then he should forgive G when she is "sorry"
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Posted: 13 years ago
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arey no Anje dear i was not saying you should feel empathy for victims or any sympathy for him i am only saying his behavior right now is normal with every human being in his shoes or not but is burdened with guilt ...thats it

about G yeah here i agree if J expects forgiveness from his family and if they forgive him after he redeems himself and promises to himself he'll be loyal and understanding towards his parents , fulfill his responsibilities selflessly and proves by doing so to them ...and later if Gauri comes to him to ask forgiveness , from his family too about her mistakes and she promises she won't repeat those mistakes ..then he should forgive her ..give her a chance too.to prove herself ...if he cannot .do that to her then be sincere to her instead of forcing him and her in any unwanted relation part ways with a good note and fulfill his responsibilities towards his child ...but right now i think even this woman needs some realization without anyone lecturing her what is right and what is wrong ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Hina - i think we are on the same page about Gauri...I am all for her experiencing all the thiraskar and dard she has put Anandi through and I too don't want her to b forgiven by J until and unless she accepted her culpability for her share of their mutual misdeeds.

As for Jugya...his actions are consistent with his weak character and realistic...It does not, however, invoke even an iota of sympathy for me.
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i agree with you Anjana...even i dont want her to be forgiven by Jagaya so soon untill or unless she tastes real pain what she did with Anandi and singh family..realize all her mistakes , and try to correct them by doing something good for them ...sorry she has dong way too wrong that she can be forgiven so easily .i still remember that badi massi incident that monster who was dragging Jagaya outside lets go when BM fainted 😡that was so inhumane of her ...life has given her many chances but each time she proved she is worst so this time chance she needs to earn with lots of lots of hard work ...she has done many many many mistakes and she needs to repent them ..i will really hate this idea if cvs some day tapkofy her with baby and fall on everyone's feet sorry ...no way ..not acceptable at all ...🤢she and her mother needs to face all that what they have put other's into

Jagaya ...he is getting the taste of what he has done with others everything is being thrown back on his face with tit for tat😆he too needs somehow try to correct what wrong he did ..he cannot bring the lost time back to change everything but he can bring happiness to others whom he has given pain in new time without his selfish interests and also earn forgiveness for him from his family and from Anandi ..not just through crying bucket full of tears .but do something selflessly ..earn that forgiveness .
Edited by hina13 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Absolutely right Anjana,

Death would be too easy way to escape...Coward that he is, instead of facing life, the fact that he choose the easy path shows that he is a long way from the reality of realizing that what he did is something which can't be forgiven so easily...He has to pay for every insult and betrayal...!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Why should anyone melt at the sight of Jagya now? Anandi may not have physically slept on the road or her feet may not have stepped on thorns and stones but whatever she went through was actual hell. It is easier to go through physical pain but mental torture is unbearable.

Whether Jagya goes back to Gauri or not his life is hell anyway. While he was with Gauri he never had peace and now he craves for happiness from family bec he never got that from his own real so called love.

I can understand the creatives motive for showing Jagya in a pitiable state bec only then they can justify him reuniting with his family. But his troubles are not finished coz there is Gauri coming back at him with the fruit of the seed that he has sown 😆

The sins of a person follow him till his grave.😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Fast trak - could not agree more with you. J's journey of realization has just began. They may have to take him in due to health, but G will be BACK. J ka redemption will happen, but there will be miles and miles of reel b4 that happens...and some sins will haunt him till the very end especially as A moves ahead with S😉😆
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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he is not going to die😆 ...and i think cvs are not trying to gain sympathies for him .😆this is last stage of downfall cvs can show of him ...now he is totally alone , with burden of his mistakes that he realized he has done wrong and is hanging between life and death ...Jagaya's realization must have begin now but not his punishment ..he has been punished for a long time still going on ..where was his life at peace ?😆the day Bhairo came to know about him being having an affair with Gauri and he slapped him from then on where was peace in his life ..his downfall began and that continued and this is final stage for him when he is badly broken ..left alone .is hanging in between life and death ..

now i think cvs will start his journey to stand up and rectify his mistakes ..his punishment is never ending he will carry the guilt of his mistakes all his life but i think this will be unfair to say cvs have just shown two days of his punishment ...while i think from the day he married Gauri to now his life has been a total mess ..he is being rejected through out whether he do right or wrong..faced so many rejections and humilations from everyone ..he has been crying . screaming , yearning for his family for a long time but they kept on rejecting him and he kept on crying ...his relation with Gauri was a total mess , his career also destroyed , he has been living a complete restless life ..Anandi has been moving forward succeeding in her life while he has been continously going backwards .crying screaming ..Anandi has been dancing happily with shiv on spilt screen Jagaya has been shown depressed taking rain bath ...so where his life was at peace ...with one happiness he got 10 sorrows .and this has been going on for a long time and who says it is ending even if his family accepts him do you all think its over ...well in the position he is it will take him a long time to stand up on his feet moving ahead from his past ...so i believe this is not fair to say this is only two days punishment ..while it has been going on for a long time

as for rectifying his mistakes i believe cvs have always left space for him here and have shown to viewers he will rectify his mistakes one day ..though he cannot bring the lost time back but he surely can do something to rectify those mistakes i think he will do it ..because this is what they have been showing in between ..if he owes his life to Anandi she saved him Anandi too owes her life to him he too saved her selflessly..though being rejected again sumitra didn't even invite him in and he was made to go back from outside his house with tears in eyes but he never taunted for that ...varun .. Jagaya rejected his treatment before breaking poor child's heart and hurting his sister later he treated him thus making sugna proudly say to abhishek my brother is also a doctor he advised those exercises to us for varun ..so see he rectified his mistake ...so here he will too all we need to do have little patience 😆

Btw i have a question ..i have read it many times here about Jagaya Gauri SR in haveli ...😕i am kind of confused are you guys talking about that episode when Gauri closed door on Anandi's face? ..well if i am recalling my memories correctly please do correct me if i am wrong anywhere yes they tried poor Anandi was in deep pain i am not trying to prove them innocent but they didn't celebrate their SR there ...Jagaya was feeling a lot awkward there restless though Gauri was making full attempts but he wasn't paying attention to her, in deep thinking , Anandi's sad face hit him there he wasn't paying attention to Gauri's words ..they had an agrument ..he left room , was restless , punching wall and dadisaa saw him that raised her hope she can still get him back later he came back said sorry to Gauri they hugged till then both of them were feeling awkward so they didn't celebrate their SR rest were only Anandi's nightmares .but reality was something else and both J G were staying in guest room not in J 's room ...so 😕..they actually celebrated their SR in mumbai on Jagaya ;s birthday ..when Anandi's diya extinguished when she was sitting with his doll wishing him happy birthday but her lit diya or candle whatever was there extinguished marking all is over for her ...so JG celebrated their SR in mumbai not in haveli..they tried but couldn;t celebrate that in haveli...because J was not ready



Edited by mahi12 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Mahi - l so enjoy your posts and perspective on J.

I have never said J has not suffered to date for the consequences of his action. But, at time he whined and whined he didn't deserve such...kyun? kyun? kyun?... So, I don't give him credit fr that. He happily chose that MISERY.

He just rescued Anandi from Hethu, she took a bullet for him and the responsibility for most of his childish mistakes. She deffo wins the rescue round.

The SR at Haveli - agree it was imagined by the Havelites but, with good cause. Out of respect for the SInghs and Anandi's sentiment, they could have asked for separate bedrooms but, didn't.

I agree with you that J's realization is happening but, it isn't complete yet. When it is I will give credit for that not b4. And when he truly redeems himself I will say so, but for now please don't expect an ounce of sympathy from me because he chooses to act like a bhikari, takes a rain bath, and lands in the hospital that once was unworthy of him.
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Anjana...thank you for liking my posts😳 ...about Jagaya's punishment i was giving an over all view about comments here who are saying Jagaya didn't suffer much ...😆..yes i agree his punishment previously carried no realization with it he was in why why why mode why this is happening to me ...yes he happily chosen his misery ...no doubt in it ..he intentionally threw axe on his feet so now bear pain 😆now he realized why why this was happening to me ... cvs have now pushed him to last straw of his downfall which i think started from the day with his marriage to Gauri now this is the limit now how more they can push him ...i mean he is hanging between life and death..so now probably or must be beginning of rectifying those mistakes ...now even a ray hope again came back in his hopeless life dadisaa's caring hand so now he should try to win the lost trust back of his family selflessly..with realization of his mistakes realize what he needs to do to rectify those mistakes ..of course the path is still full of thorns for him not so easy ...but with flowers comes thorns too he should realize that ..life is not always a bed of roses it carries many thorns of hardships with it he should be ready for it ...about pain and guilt that he will carry for a long time with him definitely its a lot hard for him to come out of everything and move ahead in life not to sulk his all life in depression. but he needs to do that .make him strong enough to do so


@life saving mission ...yes Anandi definitely wins the round here she took bullet for him and reached close to death ..cvs didnt show him doing same but situation was very much smiliar at that time he was kidnapped by goons this time she was he saved her life putting his life at risk 😆 cvs have shown him twice saving her life once from hetho once from fire when her duppata caught fire in diwali during BM track ...so he saved her life too ..she too owes her life to him too just like he does


@Haveli SR...yes that was only haveli people's nightmare leaving DS who saw Jagaya outside room restless ... here the fault of him is when he realized he is not doing right .at first he was a lot happy when seeing pained face of Anandi he became restless all his happiness disappeared so he was left a lot restless and in awkward position ..Gauri's mission failed ..😆so if Jagaya cared about other's sentiments .. had a feeling a restlessness this is no right..then .care about their sentiments and sleep in another room but you slept there with gauri though not doing anything but still gave haveli people these nightmares of your happy SR with Gauri while reality was something else




Edited by mahi12 - 13 years ago

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