Gaur, a serial FETUS killer - Page 5

Also, if Gauri tries to get back with Jagya, with complete honesty, keeping in mind the welfare of her baby. Then I would not condemn her decision.

Thanks

Mansi

I understand what you are saying.

I said in point 2 that the decision to abort is in the hands of the mother now. This decision is going to be influenced by a lot of factors. I mentioned 2 factors - in point 3 & 4. But they are not the only factors. Here's another one-

As a viewer I feel Gauri has been vindictive, manipulative, insecure, jealous & egoistic. Jagya was justified in leaving her. But the woman in her shoes feels that she has been left by her love. Her characterization is such that she still hasn't realized any of her faults.

In this hateful frame of mind, her first reaction is that she doesn't want to be associated with anything that reminds her of Jagya. Including the baby. And this again is one of the influencing factors in the decision to abort. For her, this factor super-cedes all others. That would be a character flaw, in many people's eyes. But, to each, his own.

Also, we can't really say let's do away with point 4. That's the reality of the situation. Yes Gauri was 100% at fault for the situation she is in. Yes she is an illegal mistress. That's her actual status. But the reality is also this - that if she does bring a child, that would be an illegitimate, father less offspring. One can't ignore this factor when looking at this particular case.

I also agree to your opinion that she is yet to be shown to realize the reasons that I have mentioned here. She might abort only out of hatred, without much consideration for the baby's future, etc. That would be in morally grey region for me. I still can't decide if I am completely against it. But that's a very personal moral compass, with complex opinions about fetus stage/ right stage to abort, etc etc. I guess that would differ with different women.

But you are also right in saying that its too early to comment, because that was just the initial reaction. They might show mummyjee brainwashes her and tells her to blackmail Jagya/Singh family with the baby.

We have to wait and watch.

Originally posted by: Missesha

Hi Mansi,

I agree with you on your first 3 points and for discussing this matter let's just sideline the 4th point for a while. Let's not bring legalities of their marriage into picture as it will bring a lot more other issues and we will lose focus from main topic.

Let's go by the fact that J-G were in a relationship and have parted ways on a bad note, therefore its G's decision to keep her child or not. Even then is she right to abort her child just because it is J's child?

I am ok with her decision but I can't digest her reason for doing so? Shouldn't her decision be based on whether she wants the child or not, rather than whether she wants J's child or not?

The earlier depicts her perspective towards parenting while the latter depicts her hatredness, pure hatredness.

Anyways, it is a bit early to comment on G's decision as she was not in the right frame of mind yesterday. Let's see how she takes it further.

See I agree to everything you are saying in your below post. About Jagya cheating & then Gauri cheating. My opinion is that Jagya indeed left everything for Gauri. He was very bad with his family, with Anandi, but to Gauri , he was as true & loyal as he could be. Whatever cheating he did , he only did it before marriage. From Anandi's perspective and Sigh perspective, he was characterless, graceless, worst than scum & unfaithful. But for Gauri, he did everything.

But Gauri didn't give back the same honesty. Even if we not even comment about the SR episode & the way she was rude to his family. Within the marriage, she was very manipulative, looking to 'own' Jagya & was not genuine. Not the partner anyone would want.

But here I was only talking about the abortion issue as such. I guess we both agee that abortion isn't wrong, only intentions are to be questioned.

I already posted a reply to Esha for the intention part and I am copying here again. You can see my view -

I said in point 2 that the decision to abort is in the hands of the mother now. This decision is going to be influenced by a lot of factors. I mentioned 2 factors - in point 3 & 4. But they are not the only factors. Here's another one- As a viewer I feel Gauri has been vindictive, manipulative, insecure, jealous & egoistic. Jagya was justified in leaving her. But the woman in her shoes feels that she has been left by her love. Her characterization is such that she still hasn't realized any of her faults.

In this hateful frame of mind, her first reaction is that she doesn't want to be associated with anything that reminds her of Jagya. Including the baby. And this again is one of the influencing factors in the decision to abort. For her, this factor super-cedes all others. That would be a character flaw, in many people's eyes. But, to each, his own.

I also agree to your opinion that she is yet to be shown to realize the reasons that I have mentioned here. She might abort only out of hatred, without much consideration for the baby's future, etc. That would be in morally grey region for me. I still can't decide if I am completely against it. But that's a very personal moral compass, with complex opinions about fetus stage/ right stage to abort, etc etc. I guess that would differ with different women.

Thanks

Mansi

Originally posted by: ankit111

@mansimat, i m replying u, just becoz u hv raised a genuine question, even if i dont afree with u, not like people who even dont LOOK AT my FALTU post, but still bother to Reply or people, who just 5 days old in the forum, but still hv very BAD experiences of my posts, finding it TASTELESS, NOT HUMOUROUS AND PROBLAMATIC , but still bother to reply in my thread😉

If u read carefully my posts, my objection is not the abortion itself, but the reasoning and intention behind it. Even sometime a murder can be justified, if it hs been done in self defence or to defend someone, a robbing can be also justified if its done with larger welfare motive. Our freedom fighters commited such so called crimes, but still we respect thm👏 the same way, if any woman do the abortion with good reasoning thn i hv not objection, but here Gawari madam, even didnt give a second thought, she didnt even thought abt her or child future. Her reasoning was tht its JOGIA nishani and she dosnt want to keep his ANY nishani of his. Thn wht abt the degree, which she got as bhikh of Singh family, it can also reminnd her him and his family. Why not she burnt it or atleast try to pay it off and free from tht obligation. This is the question of a life not a nishani, which Jogia gifted her in their make up adventures😆😆 Even first time, whn she got pregnent, she only kept the child, whn she was convinced abt her own interest, but never cared abt tht and was busy in her own selfish action, withput thinking how badly it cd effect the child inside her😆 and i m sure she will keep this child too for only her selfish reason. The child is only Tool for her, if needed keep it if not abort it. This is the dangerous mentality and cant be justified as per me.

People talk a lot abt Jogia cheating before marriage and on tht basis justify Gauri cheating. But first of all before marrying Gauri, he confessed his cheating in letter. Secondly, whn Gawari madam found his cheating, she also shouted at him, same way as he shouted at her. But he didnt left her and kept trying and finally she accepted him with all his cheating knowingly. Here Gawari madam, confession is far away, she cant even tolerated anyone can shout at her after being caught and on tht basis want to kill the HIS nishani, as if she hs no participation in it😆

In short, for me anything, even so called crime can be justified if intention is good, but a welfare work, with bad intention ,can be denounced. INTENTION MATTER MOST😆