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Posted: 13 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: mansimat

I am new here & have been following all posts and topics for the last one month. I am very passionate about Balika Vadhu & have been watching since day one.


I ususally don't reply but seriously, I can't believe that fans of Gauri have become so passionate about her that they refuse to what the serial itself is saying.

If Gauri is shown as depressed after the loss her baby, how can someone assume the thoughts in her head?? How can they assume that SHE is feeling guilty herself & not still blaming Anandi in her mind??How?? This is really insane. To suit their argument, people are using mind boggling logic (or non-logic?)

My suggestion: Then just put the TV on mute during BV & assume your own dialogues.

She is mostly pathetic, vicious, plotting & revengeful. How can someone not see it??? This is mind boggling. Yes she has a few redeeming points like 1. she is an efficient doctor & 1. right now she is at the receiving end of some MCP behavior from Jagya & therefore what she says back to him, makes her look good. That's about it. That doesn't right all her blunders and mistakes of the past.

And let me be very clear about Jagya's behavior - yes it looks bad, but 95% of males in India are like this. This is more of an indian behavior. Is Gauri from the US, that she can't understand Jagya's POV? Is she not herself from the same background wherein her mom is also saying that about men. So why the hell can't she not adjust?

I JUST FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THIS DISCUSSION & so much hoopla about Gauri being a positive character. So she scored 1/100 in goodness for her current behavior. Overall she is still a gross failure as a woman.



Perhaps but just because all men are like that is it necessary that like a typical perception an Indian woman puts up with Indian males MCP behaviour? In fact to stamp out such nonsense I am exceedingly happy that they are showing Gauri rising fast above Jogia. In any case why is it that the woman is always meant to adjust? Is it right that Jogia is not doing any of the housework or wanting to share the responsibilities? I for one cannot commend such MCP behaviour😊 As for all the past blunders we all have different perceptions on that. Im pretty sure alot of people on this forum said Gauri would continue to blame Anandi and Singhs even after the signing of divorce papers. I for one am more than happy that she is leaving them alone and now teaching Jogia a lesson😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr



Perhaps but just because all men are like that is it necessary that like a typical perception an Indian woman puts up with Indian males MCP behaviour? In fact to stamp out such nonsense I am exceedingly happy that they are showing Gauri rising fast above Jogia. In any case why is it that the woman is always meant to adjust? Is it right that Jogia is not doing any of the housework or wanting to share the responsibilities? I for one cannot commend such MCP behaviour😊 As for all the past blunders we all have different perceptions on that. Im pretty sure alot of people on this forum said Gauri would continue to blame Anandi and Singhs even after the signing of divorce papers. I for one am more than happy that she is leaving them alone and now teaching Jogia a lesson😳


I think very conveniently you have left out the answer to my first question about how you found out that Gauri is feeling guilty about her own miscarriage. When people don't have answers they usually talk about something else. NO PROBLEM.

Also my last post was ONLY about Gauri, not about Jagya. Because I was analyzing her behavior, her reaction to Jagya.

And if you read it carefully I said the good points about Gauri are " 1. she is an efficient doctor & 1. right now she is at the receiving end of some MCP behavior from Jagya & therefore what she says back to him, makes her look good. "

Its pretty obvious but since you choose to not understand it, i will say it again - I mean there are two good things about her that she a good doc & that she is giving reasonable answers to Jagya - In fact I am agreeing that Yes those are the good points about her currently. SO what are you replying here?? When have i said that its bad behavior?

I am nowhere "recommending" the MCP behaviour, I just said that since its prevalent in most parts of India, Gauri should not be an alien to it & CAN adjust to it. That's because I assume she must have seen it at her own home, her "gaon", even her beloved shehar (Mumbai).

In fact i meant to say that Gauri scores 1/100 for goodness due to these two points. so??? In my opinion she is complete failure as a woman.

My advice to you: please understand what a member has written then comment.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: mansimat


I think very conveniently you have left out the answer to my first question about how you found out that Gauri is feeling guilty about her own miscarriage. When people don't have answers they usually talk about something else. NO PROBLEM.

Also my last post was ONLY about Gauri, not about Jagya. Because I was analyzing her behavior, her reaction to Jagya.

And if you read it carefully I said the good points about Gauri are " 1. she is an efficient doctor & 1. right now she is at the receiving end of some MCP behavior from Jagya & therefore what she says back to him, makes her look good. "

Its pretty obvious but since you choose to not understand it, i will say it again - I mean there are two good things about her that she a good doc & that she is giving reasonable answers to Jagya - In fact I am agreeing that Yes those are the good points about her currently. SO what are you replying here?? When have i said that its bad behavior?

I am nowhere "recommending" the MCP behaviour, I just said that since its prevalent in most parts of India, Gauri should not be an alien to it & CAN adjust to it. That's because I assume she must have seen it at her own home, her "gaon", even her beloved shehar (Mumbai).

In fact i meant to say that Gauri scores 1/100 for goodness due to these two points. so??? In my opinion she is complete failure as a woman.

My advice to you: please understand what a member has written then comment.



I didn't answer you because you did not even understand the context of my Gauri guilty statement😆 Hence I decided to leave it but now that you have broached it I will definitely answer you. I asked how can one say that she was NOT repentant for losing her baby and how can one say she had no pain for the loss when we SAW that she went through depression. Yes I did say I think her tears during that time were due to pain and regret for her accident which she very well knows happened because of her phone call.

You mentioned Jogia in your post AND you asked why she cannot adjust to him why she cannot understand his behaviour because he is like most Indian men.😆 I replied hence. My advice to you: same as your last line😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr



I didn't answer you because you did not even understand the context of my Gauri guilty statement😆 Hence I decided to leave it but now that you have broached it I will definitely answer you. I asked how can one say that she was NOT repentant for losing her baby and how can one say she had no pain for the loss when we SAW that she went through depression. Yes I did say I think her tears during that time were due to pain and regret for her accident which she very well knows happened because of her phone call.

You mentioned Jogia in your post AND you asked why she cannot adjust to him why she cannot understand his behaviour because he is like most Indian men.😆 I replied hence. My advice to you: same as your last line😉


Hmmm.. Now you are changing your statement that you made about her guilt, according to your convenience. Just like the character Gauri.

Where has Gauri admitted this - "which she very well knows happened because of her phone call." This is in your mind, YOUR ASSUMPTION. how will any normal/rational viewer believe it unless Gauri says it or EVEN THINKS ABOUT IT ALOUD (sometimes they show people reflecting or saying their thoughts aloud)

- If Gauri felt guilty, blaming herself for the miscarriage, why was she silently depressed.. Are the CVs crazy who engage in such voluminous dilog baaazi for everything in the serial, would let Gauri's guilt be "silent inward thinking".

That's the most absurd thing FRANKLY. You are imagining everything in your mind. Gauri's dialogues/Gauri's thinking. I think you have literally put yourself in her position & answering for her character as if it's really happening to you. I cant argue this extent of ill-logic.
I am beginning to understand why you defend her so much...

For the other argument - When you replied to my post, talking only about "typical perception an Indian woman puts up with Indian males MCP behavior", "recommending MCP behavior"
- To this argument I had said that you got my meaning wrong that I was actually saying Gauri looks good because she answers back. Hence you talked so much about something I was already agreement to. So obviously you didn't understand my comment & responded in circles.

But still I will clarify the issue from my end - I didn't discuss about Jagya's behavior/whether he is at fault/right or wrong/how he is doing or what. I just took him as a reference point that this is what Guari is faced with & this is how she is reacting. As if she has not known how indian men are.

That's all. You are still responding in circles.



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Posted: 13 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: mansimat


Hmmm.. Now you are changing your statement that you made about her guilt, according to your convenience. Just like the character Gauri.

Where has Gauri admitted this - "which she very well knows happened because of her phone call." This is in your mind, YOUR ASSUMPTION. how will any normal/rational viewer believe it unless Gauri says it or EVEN THINKS ABOUT IT ALOUD (sometimes they show people reflecting or saying their thoughts aloud)

- If Gauri felt guilty, blaming herself for the miscarriage, why was she silently depressed.. Are the CVs crazy who engage in such voluminous dilog baaazi for everything in the serial, would let Gauri's guilt be "silent inward thinking".

That's the most absurd thing FRANKLY. You are imagining everything in your mind. Gauri's dialogues/Gauri's thinking. I think you have literally put yourself in her position & answering for her character as if it's really happening to you. I cant argue this extent of ill-logic.
I am beginning to understand why you defend her so much...

For the other argument - When you replied to my post, talking only about "typical perception an Indian woman puts up with Indian males MCP behavior", "recommending MCP behavior"
- To this argument I had said that you got my meaning wrong that I was actually saying Gauri looks good because she answers back. Hence you talked so much about something I was already agreement to. So obviously you didn't understand my comment & responded in circles.

But still I will clarify the issue from my end - I didn't discuss about Jagya's behavior/whether he is at fault/right or wrong/how he is doing or what. I just took him as a reference point that this is what Guari is faced with & this is how she is reacting. As if she has not known how indian men are.

That's all. You are still responding in circles.





Well lets say its an educated guess based on my understanding of Gauri's character😊 Or I am not sure what all the tears were for. If she didn't blame herself they were more likely to be angry tears angry looks. Im sure the cvs had some other motive in keeping her silent such as...oh I dunno maybe showing her in DEPRESSION?😆😆 I could say the say😊 Clearly you did not understand the context of my Gauri and depression comment the first time😆 You clearly used phrases such as "why can't she adjust" and I replied WHY should she adjust?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: di_vya

Showing internal family differences in front of outsiders is insensitive. Talking rudely is insensitive.
Just beause your husband is a Male Chauvinistic Pig, doesn't mean it gives you the license to be a Female Chauhinistic Pig.
Regarding Karz, Gauri has Jagat's family's karz on her...i don't see that being on her radar right now.

Dear divya, I disagree. I perceive that Gauri did the right thing. It is a matter of paying rent. Tomorrow if they dont pay the rent on time, they can be evicted and she doesnt want to take any risks. Deshpande may say yes for fifteen days extension, but he can also change his mind tomorrow and slap them with an eviction notice. She didnt want to take the risk of that - and gave him a post dated cheque.
Could she have done this in a sensitive way. Sure, but Jagat was behaving like an ass with Mr. Deshpande... promising six months rent in next fifteen days. She had to show the landlord that they were not irresponsible. She doesnt have time to go house hunting now with a stressful new job.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

Dear divya, I disagree. I perceive that Gauri did the right thing. It is a matter of paying rent. Tomorrow if they dont pay the rent on time, they can be evicted and she doesnt want to take any risks. Deshpande may say yes for fifteen days extension, but he can also change his mind tomorrow and slap them with an eviction notice. She didnt want to take the risk of that - and gave him a post dated cheque.
Could she have done this in a sensitive way. Sure, but Jagat was behaving like an ass with Mr. Deshpande... promising six months rent in next fifteen days. She had to show the landlord that they were not irresponsible. She doesnt have time to go house hunting now with a stressful new job.



Thank You Tinoo😊 Lets just say if Gauri really intended to be rude to Jogia she would have told him off in front of the landlord. Jogia always gets into trouble when he uses the high and mighty tone of his and says big things without conviction. Gauri took the practical approach and she was correct in that.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr



Well lets say its an educated guess based on my understanding of Gauri's character😊 Or I am not sure what all the tears were for. If she didn't blame herself they were more likely to be angry tears angry looks. Im sure the cvs had some other motive in keeping her silent such as...oh I dunno maybe showing her in DEPRESSION?😆😆 I could say the say😊 Clearly you did not understand the context of my Gauri and depression comment the first time😆 You clearly used phrases such as "why can't she adjust" and I replied WHY should she adjust?


You are yourself admitting - "guess based on my understanding of Gauri's character".
I believe that proves my whole argument, that its just that, a guess which a rational viewer can not believe.
My case is proven.
Alright I remembered that you said "educated guess" and it might give you point for another argument. So I will tell you I am pretty much educated with a masters degree. Its definitely not as educated a guess, as you might think it is.

Second - Clearly you forgot to see that my FIRST, ORIGINAL post was an individual post & not a direct reply to your post. I covered a few points that I cared about and since it was not a direct reply I wasn't really answering your question of why can't she adjust or Why should she adjust.
So again your logic is flawed.

If you want, I can have a discussion on that too. I will be happy to give my points.
Edited by mansimat - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRKLuvr

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Thank You Tinoo😊 Lets just say if Gauri really intended to be rude to Jogia she would have told him off in front of the landlord. Jogia always gets into trouble when he uses the high and mighty tone of his and says big things without conviction. Gauri took the practical approach and she was correct in that.

Exactly. atleast the landlord turned down the ridiculous 6 months in one go offer. Can you imagine what would have happened if he had accepted? ... . Like an ass he says "six months rent in one go"... instead of dealing with the issue on hand.

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