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Posted: 13 years ago
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Kunda Tai acted beautifully, what a fantastic delivery of emotions which looked so real... great acting, true actors are not the ones with pretty faces and plain dialogues, but faces that bring the character alive, that we stop looking at the actor & look at the character and hear it out .
Great acting.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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kunda tai's word were apt in describing anandi's situation...but why did she say ' mard bhataktah nehi, aurat use bhatak ne mein...' blah blah! did kunda tai think her husband or jagat were 5 yr old kids who have been 'snatched' from their wives!!! this is weird - if a woman leaves her husband, it is the characterless woman but when a man leaves a wife, it's the other woman who is t fault and then it's the incapability of the wife who cud not keep her husband with her and lastly the man is blamed! in most cases he is not blamed at all and ppl even sympathisize with them !!!!! while the reality is itls the man who is responsible the most! - even if all the women in this world refuse to marry the jagats even then anandis of this world wil not be happy becoz jagats will remain with them for their own selfish reason- to get the confort od home and will find other ways to have fun!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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this is by far the best epi of BV in a long time (the last good one was where A's mom came to haveli and yelled at J after finding out about G). All the truth and reality has been clearly shown to them.

You know, it's one thing if they were really in love and nothing else in the world mattered. But in this case, everyone else in the world matters to G. Omg what will they think of me bla bla bla. A is making me look bad bla bla. You can't expect to do something so totally wrong and then be accepted by everyone. Otherwise every married man/woman would run off saying sorry but I don't love you, I love this other person.

Kunda tai is fantastic!

I dont even understand why G hates A so much. At first I guess J said bad things about A to get G. But now when J says good things, G still hates A. She didn't even do anything! So confusing...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: doyelpakhi

kunda tai's word were apt in describing anandi's situation...but why did she say ' mard bhataktah nehi, aurat use bhatak ne mein...' blah blah! did kunda tai think her husband or jagat were 5 yr old kids who have been 'snatched' from their wives!!! this is weird - if a woman leaves her husband, it is the characterless woman but when a man leaves a wife, it's the other woman who is t fault and then it's the incapability of the wife who cud not keep her husband with her and lastly the man is blamed! in most cases he is not blamed at all and ppl even sympathisize with them !!!!! while the reality is itls the man who is responsible the most! - even if all the women in this world refuse to marry the jagats even then anandis of this world wil not be happy becoz jagats will remain with them for their own selfish reason- to get the confort od home and will find other ways to have fun!


I get what ur saying. But think of this way. If some married guy was flirting with me with the intention of forming a relationship, I wouldn't give him the time of day. If he lied and i found out later, I would break all ties and refuse to see him again. I wouldn't care about the fact that he doesn't love his wife anymore or she sucks or whatever. I can't be the reason that someone leaves his wife. If he wants to leave afterwards anyway, then it's his choice. But that man would not be in my life anymore.

There would be a good chance that that guy would go back home to his wife if the other woman dumped him for good. However, if she said ok i'll marry u cuz u hate ur wife, then obviously there's no going back.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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While not agreeing to Kunda Tai's all dialogues, the essence was all true. First time Cvs articulated and mirrored Anandi's pain to her wreckers. Many times it was argued, what moral obligation does Gauri have towards Anandi?-In the first place, none perhaps. But the moment she chose to overstep and ignore Anandi's natural right, even after believing J's stand- or perhaps precisely because of believing and partnering such stand without any thought to other side, she made herself obligated to Anandi's miseries. Her later acrimony only intensified her fault. Kundatai highlighted her mistakes in no uncertain terms and this time around Gauri can not even blame Anandi's 'manipulative' power- unless she now accuses her of supernatural, Para- psychic powers to influence others on telepathy.

On other level, I am feeling sad for this once lively and upbeat girl-who is finding her whole life disintegrating rapidly. She is paying dearly for her one misstep.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: stutishah

While not agreeing to Kunda Tai's all dialogues, the essence was all true. First time Cvs articulated and mirrored Anandi's pain to her wreckers. Many times it was argued, what moral obligation does Gauri have towards Anandi?-In the first place, none perhaps. But the moment she chose to overstep and ignore Anandi's natural right, even after believing J's stand- or perhaps precisely because of believing and partnering such stand without any thought to other side, she made herself obligated to Anandi's miseries. Her later acrimony only intensified her fault. Kundatai highlighted her mistakes in no uncertain terms and this time around Gauri can not even blame Anandi's 'manipulative' power- unless she now accuses her of supernatural, Para- psychic powers to influence others on telepathy.

On other level, I am feeling sad for this once lively and upbeat girl-who is finding her whole life disintegrating rapidly. She is paying dearly for her one misstep.

Great writing skill you have, Very well described.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Gauri's only fault is she married Jagat. Very few people want to bring the other side of the story..Kunda Tai doesn't know if Gauri was the one in Jagat's life in childhood too.CVS is totally ignoring that fact. She was in haveli as beendni. There existed a connection..and Gauri is at a big fault today for not understanding the relationship at a time when Jagya himself dedicated to Gauri.We live in a world where we beleive, put faith...Gauri s insecurity stems from Jagya s still caring attitude towards Anadi. Gauri wants to live a peaceful life ..if she can't she can blame Jagya , Anadi or Her luck...NOT ANYONE ELSE.'

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: IBserenity

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There would be a good chance that that guy would go back home to his wife if the other woman dumped him for good. However, if she said ok i'll marry u cuz u hate ur wife, then obviously there's no going back.

IB serenity -- hi. I think that this is an "illusion" that all women who have been abandoned hold -- that if only the other woman had not entered my life then my husband would still be with me.
I think one of two things will happen
1. Guy will not go back to his wife and will find yet another woman -- The guy is obviously straying because there is something he wants which his wife is not able to provide him with. If woman # 2 refuses to marry him on grounds that he is already married ... he will go and look for woman # 3.
I have no idea about kundatai's husband -- but if we examine Jagat's needs -- he wanted a modern wife, whom he could carry on his arm with his friends, whom he could have intellectual discussions with about medicine, who smelled of perfume etc. etc. etc.
He was embarassed about anandi. He found her inferior in every other respect. If gauri had refused to marry him -- I doubt he would have accepted anandi again (in that time and space). He would have found someone eventually who fit the Gauri mold.
OR
2. Guy would have got back to wife and resent her -- Once again, cant speak for kundatai's husband -- but let us say that gauri refused to marry jagat -- and he went back home.
His reasons for going would not be because he was in love anandi -- it would be because he had needs and anandi would be a cheap default option.
In fact, if gauri had refused to marry him, and he returned home because he was financially not independent or other reasons at that time -- and there was anandi -- i am sure he would resent anandi and be mean to her. In his mind, he would always hold anandi as the cause that Gauri left him.
That so called "renewed marriage" of Jagat and Anandi would be a living hell for anandi.
Personally, I feel that if people are not joined to you emotionally, and dont want you for you, but want you for what you can do for them, it is best to let them go. I dont want to have to convince a man, an employer, an employee etc. to stay with me. If they cant see the good in me and dont want to be with me, why should i break my head over it, and have someone stay with me because it is just a cheap default option.
Kundatai is deluded that her husband would have returned to her. I'm sure he would have found another woman in dubai.
But even if he did return to her -- it would be some sort of "physically present, mentally absent" relationship -- where he would indeed be in her home as a physical entity, but the relationship would not be the same.
It depends on what kundatai is looking for -- if a physically present man signifies an income source for her then sure yes, it will be great. But if she is looking for a "husband" in the emotional sense of the term, I think this emotional relationship was finished already.
Personally, I dont classify gauri as a home breaker. That would be true, if Jagat had been honest with her -- and she still kept throwing herself at him, and he fought her off saying "I am married, I have someon"... and she still kept persisting.
Here, she had no idea.
I do blame gauri for marrying him after knowing the truth ... but not because she had some great humanitarian obligation to anandi and anandi's grihasthi.
I blame gauri for marrying him... and staying with him even after she knew the illegality just because of the damage it does to her own status as a mistress and mother of an illegitimate child.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Gauri's insecurity is not from what she did...but it s Jagyas feeling and still attachment to Anandi that is causing Gauri insecurity...AS you said we don not know Kunda Tai s case...but here Jagya himself gone back to Anandi ..and is definitly a cause for Gauri to feel insecure,...a sense every woman has if she puts a faith on her husband ...doesn't mnatter who he is
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

IB serenity -- hi. I think that this is an "illusion" that all women who have been abandoned hold -- that if only the other woman had not entered my life then my husband would still be with me.
I think one of two things will happen
1. Guy will not go back to his wife and will find yet another woman -- The guy is obviously straying because there is something he wants which his wife is not able to provide him with. If woman # 2 refuses to marry him on grounds that he is already married ... he will go and look for woman # 3.
I have no idea about kundatai's husband -- but if we examine Jagat's needs -- he wanted a modern wife, whom he could carry on his arm with his friends, whom he could have intellectual discussions with about medicine, who smelled of perfume etc. etc. etc.
He was embarassed about anandi. He found her inferior in every other respect. If gauri had refused to marry him -- I doubt he would have accepted anandi again (in that time and space). He would have found someone eventually who fit the Gauri mold.
OR
2. Guy would have got back to wife and resent her -- Once again, cant speak for kundatai's husband -- but let us say that gauri refused to marry jagat -- and he went back home.
His reasons for going would not be because he was in love anandi -- it would be because he had needs and anandi would be a cheap default option.
In fact, if gauri had refused to marry him, and he returned home because he was financially not independent or other reasons at that time -- and there was anandi -- i am sure he would resent anandi and be mean to her. In his mind, he would always hold anandi as the cause that Gauri left him.
That so called "renewed marriage" of Jagat and Anandi would be a living hell for anandi.
Personally, I feel that if people are not joined to you emotionally, and dont want you for you, but want you for what you can do for them, it is best to let them go. I dont want to have to convince a man, an employer, an employee etc. to stay with me. If they cant see the good in me and dont want to be with me, why should i break my head over it, and have someone stay with me because it is just a cheap default option.
Kundatai is deluded that her husband would have returned to her. I'm sure he would have found another woman in dubai.
But even if he did return to her -- it would be some sort of "physically present, mentally absent" relationship -- where he would indeed be in her home as a physical entity, but the relationship would not be the same.
It depends on what kundatai is looking for -- if a physically present man signifies an income source for her then sure yes, it will be great. But if she is looking for a "husband" in the emotional sense of the term, I think this emotional relationship was finished already.
Personally, I dont classify gauri as a home breaker. That would be true, if Jagat had been honest with her -- and she still kept throwing herself at him, and he fought her off saying "I am married, I have someon"... and she still kept persisting.
Here, she had no idea.
I do blame gauri for marrying him after knowing the truth ... but not because she had some great humanitarian obligation to anandi and anandi's grihasthi.
I blame gauri for marrying him... and staying with him even after she knew the illegality just because of the damage it does to her own status as a mistress and mother of an illegitimate child.

Good analysis!! and good points
@ bold...its not necessarily true with all men... Some men just look around for the sake of it!! and In case of Jagya...fine...he was embarassed with Anandi...but if you see the circumstances...it was all his ego...when Gauri confessed her love to him...he said no...but when Gauri was about to say to the other guy...he confessed his love...In jagya's case its all about himself...he doesn't necessarily care about other's feelings...if he is feeling bad he will act on it!! It just satisfies his ego!! If Jagya thought Anandi was not upto the mark and not better than gauri..he would have stopped defending Anandi long time ago...the fact that he is defending Anandi proves that Anandi is very much able and mature!!! For guys like Jagya its Chit bhi meri, phat bhi meri funda...Its all about I, me, myself!!
Yes...its gauri's fault now...since she had a choice to say No to Jagya!!
I will not be surprised if in the future he blames Gauri saying..."it was you who accepted me after knowing the truth, you know you had a choice to say no"...
P.S: There are not just men like these...some women are like these too!!
Edited by Snehabr - 13 years ago

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