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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Suchi

You are right. Her social conditioning since childhood is making her behave like this. But then, instead of uplifting her thinking or undoing her social conditioning, she is educating others!

I think she better learn a thing or two herself before trying to show the right way to others. Rather than becoming an activist herself, she needs therapy or rehabilitation from a professional activist herself!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#32
Has she not been socially conditioned to be a beendhni only since childhood? Has that not changed now -- is she not aspiring for education and social reform?
Then how come the other social conditioning is not changing in terms of filing a case?
If she were socially conditioned to be only one way - then so be it -- then that conditioning should continue regardless of the circumstances.
Even village women would not behave the way anandi has -- not gehna and not sumitra -- forget about anyone else.
All social conditioning is valid till the day she has a beendh, like her mother said. The day there is no beendh, the rest of the structure and all arguments fall apart.
And yes, suchi, I will see it with my own POV. I never put anyone else's POV above my own. That is a commitment I have made to myself.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: annika20

@Vasuja

Look I know that IAS or lawyers don't wield that much power. But I want her to be formally educated so that she has a position or say of her own and does NOT have to solely rely on Singh family's name!

It would have been more dramatic, realistic and interesting if they had shown her struggle to rebuild her life without Singh family's support. All on her own! But this lazy, lax stuff and making a mockery of social work showing it as some hobby that can be fulfilled and managed with housework and celebrations is pathetic!

And I 100% agree with you! She must file a case against him and break his confidence that Anandi will never do anything against him! This is the confidence which makes men get away with anything. They know that their ''wife'' is too emotionally attached to them and will never take any step against them! Plus I hate it even more how Jagya is not actually disowned! His funding must be stopped. He must be actually disowned and brought on roads!

He's not having to run from pillar to post, all due to Anandi's support!

The books that Shyam gave her were a joke. Books on social work, social change are really big and detailed. Not small social studies picture books of primary kids!

And Anandi is never shown reading books or studying or writing out plans of her class or making a model curriculum for them.

It's always traditions and housework, with a visit to someone's house shown like an evening walk!😡

Full focus on the adulterous couple is so puke-worthy! As if they are the hero-heroine of this show!



Annika: BV will never move out of haveli...that is for sure. They have invested on the set and they will use the set to the maximum😆😆😆😆...the singhs will be the integral part of BV...Anandi will always get only scenes to do, she will be ever loving to Singhs, may never send Jagya to jail😡 because wether we like it or not the majority of BV audience want the pattern to continue...I think the BV forum community is a tiny one and we do not contribute much to TRPS but the audience who contribute to the TRPs will always want haveli and DS to be involved...family drama will be expected and as I said earlier BV is not doing charity they are here to make money and they ae doing it will thoda social message...They may have one epi showing Anandi studying and next epi she will write the exam and top in India😆😆 all the other time she will be handling the rasam politics at home and village...at the current track style I feel Anandi will hardly leave Jetsar...their were some chances of her to go to Jaipur if she pursued medicine or IAS...to avoid Anandi going out of Jetsar CVs started this samaj seva track...Anandi will stay for ever in Jetsar and be the ideal beendini till the end of the show...If anandi leaves jetsar and goes to city...then Cvs need another shooting spot, more cast, new characters and all that means investment...Its cheaper to recycle the ghagras, use a jhola bag and make her roam in the village set...So no point expecting from CVs

JAGA may seperate in the future and CVs will redeem Jagya's character and he will come back to Anandi...I am hoping that Anandi will not get back with him but even if JAAN union happens I will not be surprised...In short I don't have much hope from BV...I will watch till it is bearable and simply quit or take a break...I stopped watching BV when teepri track( one of the stupidest track acc to me) started watching again only after J started ill treating A after loving G...

In short I don't think anything matters to hindi soaps than TRP...If JAGA marriage has more supporters then they may even show a successful JAGA marriage...that is why I just comment on the epis and not bother much...I don't trust CVs
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Posted: 14 years ago
#34
Yes annika , but who is going to provide that for her?
where is her teacher ji? left her thinking that she is all settled and all uplifted.

Does the singh family know a thing or two? No

what about her parents, they are conveniently happy that Anandi is staying in her sasra ( again conditioning)


Where is phooli? her friend well busy being pregnant ( thats fine its her life and she needs to take care of it hmm natha pratha? right)


Who is there?

Who is there for Anandi? No one , but Anandi

So what does Anandi do?

She thinks and she does what anyone would do , try to find happiness, with some sort of satisfaction ,and busying themselves in something that will help her forget her past

And the answer is

helping people. Thats what she likes and thats what she does.


Anandi is for Anandi and no one really knows what to do with that girl and what to provide as they themselves are lost. everyone around her is a well wisher but do not know what to offer and thus in the end. She is searching her own happiness.

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Sorry to get carried away but, I look at a character from their set of views not from mine and thats why I think she is amazing. She is amazing for what she is doing and trying to get out of that depression by finding her own lil ways so that she does not break, does not loose hope and yes, like many many many women, just stop living.


Kudos to such women.


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Posted: 14 years ago
#35
I agree tinoo and thats what I am saying its your POV and perspective of this whole scenario and good that you have kept that commitment but from my perspective its called victim bashing and thats what I consider it to be.


Gehna , sumitra bhago are all conditioned and they are behaving even worse than Anandi , atleast Anandi is trying to do what ever she can to get out of depression.

What ever really, no point arguing.

Anandi for me is an amazing girl with a great spirit showing strength and character and I do not like to criticize anyone without looking at their backgrounds and looking at the bigger picture.

Thats just me. so thats that.




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Posted: 14 years ago
#36
If anandi is doin right then wats the issue,the main thing here anandi doesnt feel anyone responsible for the situation ,child mariage is evil n she is goin to fight agaisnt it which is true.wats the issue abt gaga?n if ul feel they both r criminals then remember one thing ,if u have be wrongd then u hv to fight for it ,if no then leave it,We r saying gaga r criminals n on the other hand we r also wat anandi doin is right.how both the things can be right?if gaga r criminals then anandi is wrong n if anandi is right then gaga r nt criminals.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanvismile

If anandi is doin right then wats the issue,the main thing here anandi doesnt feel anyone responsible for the situation ,child mariage is evil n she is goin to fight agaisnt it which is true.wats the issue abt gaga?n if ul feel they both r criminals then remember one thing ,if u have be wrongd then u hv to fight for it ,if no then leave it,We r saying gaga r criminals n on the other hand we r also wat anandi doin is right.how both the things can be right?if gaga r criminals then anandi is wrong n if anandi is right then gaga r nt criminals.



JAGA are criminals and Anandi is doing wrong not sending Jagat to jail...That slime deserves to rot in jail and how much ever i condemn Gauri she needs to open her eyes and get a man for real and deserve a good life.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#38
@Vasu

I don't think haveli is all important! Their ratings did go down in the dumps throughout the last year. Didn't they? The TRPs only picked up when people saw Anandi facing real trouble, and became worried of her fate. Otherwise no one even bothered about GAGA romance or tamasha in haveli in previous year.

I also don't have much hopes from CVs. I still believe they handled all issues with kid gloves and basically redeemed every wrong character and absolved the Singh family of their sins.

TRPs will again fall if nothing conclusive happens or if they keep concentrating on the illicit couple. A DS or Bhairon couldn't carry the show on their shoulders last year!

Anandi in my opinion has got to be the weakest lead in the history of Indian television. There has never been total focus on her! Be it 80s, 90s or 2000s serials, all had stories in which the lead character never went out of focus and whether it was pain or triumph, it was always the lead character in focus. This is the only serial which keeps focusing on subsidiary characters!

I just think they should never have tried to be an issue-based show in the first place. Why give out morals at the end of every episode?! Why not unpretentious drama? Why this garb of social relevance?!

I am beginning to get tired of this show already and I think I would be able to tolerate it only to a certain extent. If they don't start focussing on Anandi, and if it remains about Singhs or Jagya then it's all off for me. I stopped watching it since the Sugna-Pratap-Shyam track and used to watch very intermittently. Completely stopped watching after the leap when it seemed that child marriage had been justified and Anandi had become a wallflower! I think I will stop watching it now also.

@ Suchi

I think Vasu is also right. I mean, if it is social conditioning effect then why is she even moving on or studying? Due to her conditioning, she should either be trying to get Jagya back, or commit suicide or live in shame, hiding her face from society and wallowing in self pity!

It is conditioning when it comes to taking action against J. But that conditioning has no effect when it comes to taking steps for social reforms? Her conditioning shouldn't have allowed her to take such steps!

Anandi can take help of some local organisation or keep sticking to her Teacher ji. Her teacher is anyday a better guide and role model than the useless Singhs!

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Posted: 14 years ago
#39
@Tanvi,

Are you saying its ok for a man to marry someone lse b4 getting divorce, are you saying its ok and there is no crime in spoiling a woman's lyf, Gauri is willing participant of all these crimes. Both of them are adult enough to be doctors and reponsible for some1's lyf yet they r not mature enough to pause and think for a sec what will happen to 3rd person involved in the picture. Jagat is "ok" for you if he is as u say was in luv Gauri to come bck to his wife all these years, side with his dadisa in makng sure she doesnt study further...putting her down at every second.. and continue an illegal relationship with gauri without thinking of her famly and her...

Well i dont know about u but indian law considers that bigamy and aperson is subjected to jail term... making it a CRIME...

It is upto a vicitm what she wants, she can easily throw him in the jail, but as much as v want for her unlike Jagu she doesnt want to harm the family which is standing by her...its out of pity she is doin it.

Child marriage is a sin, every1 was involved except the children, but during there tym together v saw a frnship and companionship between the two...they became adults , consumate their marriage...the trouble started when Jagya went to city and his wish to shed his village lyf including his wife...

trio-Jagya, Gauri and Anandi were subjects of BV-
Both J and G lived their lyf happily, studied have careers and somehow ended up finding each other...(dont want to comment on that as v differ on that)
yet v have Anandi, the most deserving, spending her lyf toiling in the haveli, no chance of education and no freedom and now deserted by her husband...is not a victim?

Mind you, however u deifne Jagya's luv 4 anandi hen he consumated the relations, u cannot deny he was educated and an adult , responsible enough to vote, study for medicine and aware of sins of BV ,yet he was satisfied...

Now imagine a husband after being ith his wife 4 2 yrs in india suddenly gets to study abroad ans he goes finds sum1 lse and marries her without divorceing his 1st wife... u dont think he is a criminal, how will u justify it...

With due respect to u, i wish u upen and look beyound the rose tints of luv and lust, how will gauri's parents react to their daughter's illegal marriage, her frns reaction and bade papa...if Jagya goes to jail what ill happen, if Jagya still refuses to divorce Anandi how will she stand ...what will b status of their child...

Every crime after u r a legal adult cannot be justified by a wrong when u r young...


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Posted: 14 years ago
#40
@Tanvi

If Anandi is not taking action then GAGA are not criminals? Is it supposed to be a joke?😆

GAGA will very much remain criminals whether Anandi takes any action or not! If victims don't report against the wrong doer for any reason - for sake of family honour, or if they are unable to afford a lawyer or any reason. It does NOT absolve the wrong doer of all his sins and crimes! Got it?

A wrong doer remains a wrong doer no matter what.

Child marriage was wrong. But doing more wrongs to correct a wrong done in past is no way to settle things.

Jagya stopped Anandi's education and tried to ''exercise'' his husband's rights on Anandi, curbing her freedom and growth even when he was not living with her and was attracted to other woman. He did not divorce her formally. He lied to his family, his college administration. He kept cheating Gauri also. He's willingly keeping Gauri knowing fully well that her status is that of a mistress but is ignoring that reality, living in a bubble! He hurt Anandi and her sentiments, he kept her in dark, he left her in the lurch!

Giving argument of child marriage being a social evil, DOES NOT absolve Jagya of the wrongs that he has done. Two wrongs don't make a right!

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