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Posted: 14 years ago
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❤️ Vasuja - thank you for such a soothing reply. ❤️ I am not very pretty, and people have told me that - and it is to 'teach them a lesson' - but I seek value in their eyes by getting a trophy husband to say 'ha ha, well see, even if i was not pretty - I got this great guy'.
Anyway, all this triggered off in me when i watch Balika vadhu.
I am sure that different people see different things in Jagat and Gauri - like different parts of an elephant described by seven blind men.
The one thing that resonated with me - my part of the elephant - is the deep shame that Jagat felt for his village roots and his wife - and his desire to redeem that shame through a relationship with gauri - a modern city woman and wife. I honestly cannot see any great "chemistry" which he and G share ...nor any great incompatibility that he and A shared - so in my mind J chose G just to compensate for his shame.
I have to work on my own self-esteem issues first ... but the last lines of your post gave me extreme peace of mind. Thank you.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

Hi everyone, I really appreciate your insights - but this is turning into another thread on why jagya did what he did, and why gauri did what she did ---

and really my question was how to become like lal singh? someone who doesnt care about others.
Yes, I want a trophy husband. 😆😆😆.
But I want it to come from a point of being comfortable with myself and wanting him for myself ... rather than coming at it from a point of lack, where I feel a trophy husband will compensate some sort of lack in me... to look good in the eyes of others.
I do believe Jagya was ashamed of his village background, which is why he lied about his city... and he felt gauri was modern and a trophy girlfriend. He did want to make himself look good with gauri on his arm as his trophy wife.

tinoo dear, nothing wrong in wanting a 'trophy husband' . But dont u think it would be 100 times better to have a partner who love u selflessly, admire u, stand by u in difficult times than a man who others may envy but turn out to be not -so- sweet as others suppose.
take the case of the star wives as examples. Their husbands have fans who envy them and wish to take their place. But most of their marital lives seem to be anything but bliss
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Shamil, From a rational perspective, I agree with you that all the other quality traits are important. But I dont know why, this trophy husband thing is something i am obsessed with emotionally. I really want to unravel what is at the root of this.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

❤️ Vasuja - thank you for such a soothing reply. ❤️ I am not very pretty, and people have told me that - and it is to 'teach them a lesson' - but I seek value in their eyes by getting a trophy husband to say 'ha ha, well see, even if i was not pretty - I got this great guy'.

Anyway, all this triggered off in me when i watch Balika vadhu.
I am sure that different people see different things in Jagat and Gauri - like different parts of an elephant described by seven blind men.
The one thing that resonated with me - my part of the elephant - is the deep shame that Jagat felt for his village roots and his wife - and his desire to redeem that shame through a relationship with gauri - a modern city woman and wife. I honestly cannot see any great "chemistry" which he and G share ...nor any great incompatibility that he and A shared - so in my mind J chose G just to compensate for his shame.
I have to work on my own self-esteem issues first ... but the last lines of your post gave me extreme peace of mind. Thank you.



Tinoo any time dear... Don't think you are not pretty and all...Its sad that we live in a society so driven with looks..In fact I used to tell my friends that women inspite of freedom and education are still fit into beauty standards and figure standards. I hate fairness cream adds, I hate the craze in bollwood for thin very thin women...And the trend is global...Even in English movies and dramas we can see a fat husband or boyfriend but the girl is always thin and picture perfect. All I say is that anyone can look good these days... Parlours give endless options for face and hairdos and gyms can give good figure...

Tinoo don't think low about yourself...everyone is special...We need not be super confident and bratty but at the same time we don't need to feel low about ourself...Looks may matter in the beginning or initial stages of relationship but believe me it takes the last priority in a strong relationship. No man will want a beautiful wife who is just abusive...Women need to be well educated, stand in their own legs, smart and practical...You will get an awesome guy and you will be very very happy.

So stop thinking you are not pretty enough...Not all men are Jagyas...Their are a lot of Lal singhs who love their wife unconditionally and stay together in thick and thin...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: vasuja

[So stop thinking you are not pretty enough...Not all men are Jagyas...Their are a lot of Lal singhs who love their wife unconditionally and stay together in thick and thin...

omg!!!! i never even thot of trophy husband leaving me!!!!!😆
i never identifiedwith anandi at all or lal singhs wife.
i identify myself with jagya😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

omg!!!! i never even thot of trophy husband leaving me!!!!!😆

i never identifiedwith anandi at all or lal singhs wife.
i identify myself with jagya😕



Then don't identify yourself with Jagya... If you were really like him you will not even want to ponder on your thoughts and try to think about being like lala singh. If you were like jagya u will be happy the way u are and never ever feel that their is teeny weeny possibility that u are wrong. I believe that people display atleast a little bit of what they are when they write things. I have read all your post and you seem to be too rational and smart person. You are not biased and criticize Anandi and gaga when they do mistakes... you don't have traits of jagya... So stop worrying.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hi Tinoo Just saw ur posts and wanna add my 2 bits U dont have to like Jagya or Lal sing or anybody for tht matter...just be urself...
If u want a trophy husband there's no harm in tht...I hope u get one 😉...There shld be love and respect between couples so just be sure tht ur trophy hubby gives u tht 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: vasuja



Tinoo any time dear... Don't think you are not pretty and all...Its sad that we live in a society so driven with looks..In fact I used to tell my friends that women inspite of freedom and education are still fit into beauty standards and figure standards. I hate fairness cream adds, I hate the craze in bollwood for thin very thin women...And the trend is global...Even in English movies and dramas we can see a fat husband or boyfriend but the girl is always thin and picture perfect. All I say is that anyone can look good these days... Parlours give endless options for face and hairdos and gyms can give good figure...

Tinoo don't think low about yourself...everyone is special...We need not be super confident and bratty but at the same time we don't need to feel low about ourself...Looks may matter in the beginning or initial stages of relationship but believe me it takes the last priority in a strong relationship. No man will want a beautiful wife who is just abusive...Women need to be well educated, stand in their own legs, smart and practical...You will get an awesome guy and you will be very very happy.

So stop thinking you are not pretty enough...Not all men are Jagyas...Their are a lot of Lal singhs who love their wife unconditionally and stay together in thick and thin...



Loved your reply vasu, very well said 👏👏
And tinoo, I also agree with what vasu said, it's not about the looks. When someone falls in love with you, he appreciates an inner quality and personality, not always your outside appearance. Beauty totally lies in the eyes of the beholder, not in a facialed face or a salon done hair. But yes, if your self esteem is being haunted by your worries about your looks then you can always touch urself up--------no you can't change your features but a clean look, a good haircut and a smart outfit might boost your confidence.

In fact, I personally think it's actually a boon to be not born too pretty. 😉 So when people like you and fall in love with you it's not because of your pretty face but your qualities. It saves you of the trouble to assess if a man loves only for your physicality or you as a person, and I have seen many stunningly beautiful women go through this doubt.

Now coming to the men, not all men want blonde bimbos-----when it comes to serious relationships the emphasis is mostly on mental compatibility, the joy of companionship and common interests. You too have to look beyond the physical appearance of a guy and look for those inner qualities. Do you feel happy being with this guy? Do you have a great time in his company? Are there qualities that you appreciate? Can you share your laughter and tears with each other? Is he a good human being?----------all these questions matter much more for a long term relationship.
And yes definitely not all men are like Jagya, there are many more men like Lal Singh who love and appreciate their partners as they are. Jagya is a typical case of "grass is greener" syndrome, please don't judge all men by his standards



Edited by woman11 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@TM i don't think that wishing 4 a "trophy husband/wife" is bad !!! and even if sum1 wants 2've sum gud qlties in their spouses isn't bad either!! even i want a 'trophy husband" 2 sum extent but i know that once i get the prsn who may not b "trophy husband" but is loving, caring, having gud ckt & understanding i won't mind but 1st i've 2 get impressed by that prsn. i don't want 2've a husband whos gud luking or whom i can flaunt in the society if he doesn't've an iota of humanity & understanding 4 me!!
but 2 leave ur present partner bcoz he/she doesn't fulfill ur sum requirements which r physical or external then its not humane & can't b justified by any reason whether it may b right 2've choice or true luv or in the name of child marriage. if sum1 is getting suffocated in the marriage by sum unchangeable traits like abusiveness, obsession or evilness or totally difft temperaments then its acceptable but even in that case where difft temperaments r in the focus, u can't go on humaliting ur spouse & leave just like that. atleast 1st cum clean by giving respect ur spouse & wid dignity handle the situation!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Tinoo...there's been lot said here and I agree with all. I just wanted to say ki in the society we live in and specially ASIAN societies are very much about looks...its a sad fact. And specially about a female...gori hai ki nahi, patli, lambi ...those are the first thing ppl look at so I understand that to all those you want to show that their views about you are baseless as you have a "trophy husband" and its a feeling that I completely understand. But at the same time, I believe proving people wrong in other means...by showing them that gori ho ya kali...patli ho ya moti...your sanskars, your achievements, your values, your being-nice-to-all behavior, being a good human counts far to much than having a good looking bahu who will sit and not do any work because her hair/nail might get ruined, by having a bahu who kicked out the in-laws as she wants her own house and not have to take care of anyone...etc.

Even if I have my insecurities, I am confident that I am the best daughter to my parents, that I am the best friend anyone can have and I am the best hamsafar my bf can have. And after all of this...I know my hubby is my trophy because he is the only man who believed in his love for me rather than caring about what the "society" might say about me. And trophy ke liye just good looking hubby ki jarurat nahi hoti...a guy who can charm ppl is far more better for "society" cause then they say wah kitna dhayan rakhta hai sabka, kitna hasmukh hai, sab ke saath mil jata hai and those are the characteristics that ppl def. envy...(this is just for the society, cause personally a person needs to have lot more character to be in my best hubby books)


So forget people, unka kya hai. Agar ladki "best looking" hui to they will gossip about her making her hubby "gulam" and her not working etc...agar ladki "average looking" hui to they will gossip about her hubby looking better than her and that Dhel (wife of peacock) ko peacock hubby mil gaya...so duniya to bolti hai unhe bolne do...its how you yourself view yourself that matters and jab tak you know you are righteous, good human, and have all the good qualities then duniya bhi jak marke kabhi na kabhi yeh dekh hi legi...dont work for them...work for yourself and let them realize their mistakes through your good deeds 😊

I hope you get your trophy hubby who has all the qualities that a women will envy not just one 😉

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