Aug 20 : Shazaan scene ❤️ + Senseless episode

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Episode starts with Shaira asking nurse about her Azaan, nurse asks if she is talking about the handsome man, Shaira tells them his name is Azaan, nurses start drooling over Azaan telling Shaira that she is very lucky to have a husband like him. Shaira thinks about Noor's demand and is sad.

She comes out of the hospital room and sees a rose petal carpet laid in front of her, Nurse tells her that number of flowers laid down in front of her are directly proportional to the kismet of same number of women combined. Shaira sees Azaan and walks down the carpet towards him ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Azaan has a red rose for her 🌹 Azaan notices a flower with thorns on the carpet and covers it with hand before Shaira could walk on it ❤️ and gets hurt in the process 💔

Azaan says a shayri for Shaira

Khwab Humne har wafao ke bune!!

Humne to teri raah ke Kaatein bhi chune!!

Par Phool banke bhi tune kaaton ko panah di!!

Hum dono ke bich me teesre ko jagah di!!!

Shaira asks Azaan why did he do all this for her, Azaan replies that she might have forgotten about their love but he hasn't and he hugs her, Shaira recalls everything which happened in hospital room and couldn't hug him back. She says that they should go home. Azaan says that he knew how important her existence is for her, but he did not know that thought of losing her, will kill him. He begs her not to leave him and Shaira hugs him back ❤️❤️❤️❤️😢 Shaira says that time doesn't stop for anyone, Azaan says that time and kismet have to concede in front of his love ❤️❤️ Shaira is indeed a very lucky woman 😢❤️

Azaan gives her a rose, Azaan picks her up, Shaira asks why is he doing this? Azaan replies that it is imhis right, he brings her home. Shaira asks him to put her down as they are home now, Azaan says that his home is broken, Shaira says that it can be mended but he should not break, he should stay strong. Shaira acknowledges that she is a very lucky woman.

Razia comes there and all three are shocked seeing decoration. Noor declares that she has invited everyone. Razia sees her Paasa? on Noor's hair. Noor thanks everyone for attending this event and declares her and Azaan's wedding.

Noor says that Shaira came between her and Azaan, now Shaira has realized her mistake and she is going to divorce Azaan. Razia says that she is not ready for this marriage, Noor replies that Shazaan are ready for this, what can Bahu Begum do? Noor starts her tamasha and pushes Shaira 😠😡

Someone brings the nikahnama, Noor asks Azaan to sign it, Razia tries to stop him. Azaan looks at Shaira and he signed it. Razia says that it is wrong, Azaan replies that everything is beyond right and wrong, he is not doing right or wrong, he is doing what Shaira wants him to do. Noor ordered Shaira to read nikahnama.

Saba yells at Noor and Noor misbehaves with Razia, Azaan is angry but Shaira stops him.

Shaira declares that Azaan and Noor will be getting married in 5 days from now 💔

Upcoming -

Azaan puts forward a condition that he will sign divorce papers only if preparations of hks wedding events are done by Shaira.


I am trying to make a sense of everything but it is not making sense. Who is Noor for Shaira? Till now we thought that Shaira is trying to protect Noor because 1 she can't go against her God 2 Noor is very important for Azaan.

Now Shaira is seeing how everyone is upset because of Noor, what future is she giving her husband and his family? Why is Noor's happiness so important for her?

Azaan is being stubborn, I am giving him benefit of the doubt here.

How come a servant has access to money and jewelry of Bahu Begum?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Special Mention :

Pain of losing a mother - Noor's pain and agony on losing her mother is unmatchable, if you have a heart, you won't be able to see her dying in misery for her mom 💔

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I think the writers are still banking on the promise Shaira made to Yasmin for justifying why Shaira is so willing to bend to Noor's wishes.

However, I still don't think that makes sense, just because she made a promise to someone... doesn't mean she needs to fulfill it when it's not the right thing to do (i.e. supporting Noor in her journey right now - trying to marry Azaan).

Wasn't Shaira supposed to be the sensible one? Where's her sensibility in all of this ? Everyone is against this and Noor is clearly not the same Noor as before, why does she think her promise to Yasmin holds any weight in this situation? Why does Shaira think this is the only way to save Noor? There are other ways to take care of and support Noor. First would be to get her a grief counselor/therapist.

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Originally posted by: fria319

I think the writers are still banking on the promise Shaira made to Yasmin for justifying why Shaira is so willing to bend to Noor's wishes.

However, I still don't think that makes sense, just because she made a promise to someone... doesn't mean she needs to fulfill it when it's not the right thing to do (i.e. supporting Noor in her journey right now - trying to marry Azaan).

Wasn't Shaira supposed to be the sensible one? Where's her sensibility in all of this ? Everyone is against this and Noor is clearly not the same Noor as before, why does she think her promise to Yasmin holds any weight in this situation? Why does Shaira think this is the only way to save Noor? There are other ways to take care of and support Noor. First would be to get her a grief counselor/therapist.

It made sense before Azaan and Razia knew the truth, now when they know that Noor is not Yasmin then this family should sit down and talk. There is no need for Azaan to marry Noor, he is being stubborn and I am not able to understand why Shaira wants Noor to marry Azaan, maybe because that old man asked her to choose Farz over mohabbat and she is fulfilling her duty. For the first time, I am not able to get inside psyche of Shaira

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Originally posted by: NoraSM

It made sense before Azaan and Razia knew the truth, now when they know that Noor is not Yasmin then this family should sit down and talk. There is no need for Azaan to marry Noor, he is being stubborn and I am not able to understand why Shaira wants Noor to marry Azaan, maybe because that old man asked her to choose Farz over mohabbat and she is fulfilling her duty. For the first time, I am not able to get inside psyche of Shaira

This is the problem I have. As a Muslim married woman (also, this is not meant to sound anti-feminist or anything I hope no one takes it that way), her first farz is to her husband. He needs to come before others for her if it does not conflict with her religion (i.e. he's not making her do something wrong, or treating her horribly, etc).

So the show using that as an excuse, it's just the wrong perspective of what Islamic marriages are like/should be, which frustrates me. Khalid is not a threat anymore. And if her promise to Yasmin makes her do something against the promise she made to her husband when she signed her nikkah, then it's not justified for her to fulfill that promise to Yasmin. Along with that her husband doesn't approve of what she's doing. So what is this farz that they're talking about - I have no idea. As a Muslim, it boggles my mind.

And I only bring religion into it because these characters are Muslim, and they're using Islam to justify this two-marriage thing, etc.

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Originally posted by: fria319

This is the problem I have. As a Muslim married woman (also, this is not meant to sound anti-feminist or anything I hope no one takes it that way), her first farz is to her husband. He needs to come before others for her if it does not conflict with her religion (i.e. he's not making her do something wrong, or treating her horribly, etc).

So the show using that as an excuse, it's just the wrong perspective of what Islamic marriages are like/should be, which frustrates me. Khalid is not a threat anymore. And if her promise to Yasmin makes her do something against the promise she made to her husband when she signed her nikkah, then it's not justified for her to fulfill that promise to Yasmin. Along with that her husband doesn't approve of what she's doing. So what is this farz that they're talking about - I have no idea. As a Muslim, it boggles my mind.

And I only bring religion into it because these characters are Muslim, and they're using Islam to justify this two-marriage thing, etc.

Nikaah is not a Jidd or a Shart. It is not justified in any way that Shaira is putting Noor before her husband from any perspective. Makers are using Islamic preachings to show that Noor has to get everything she wants and very easily. People go out of their way, hurting everyone to make sure Noor is happy. Who the fu©k is Noor?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Thank you Nora and I think all the viewers are in agreement; Noor is bad, Azaan should speak against this but it makes no sense for Shayra to still keep him to his promise.

I think the only reason the writers are showing this is for a week full of angst, as ShaZaan struggle to accept the circumstance and eventually either the nikaah is stopped or it too late to stop it but ShaZaan do not divorce...

Azaan could have two wives as per the concept of the show, although we all expected a better stronger reason for it. I also think Shaira's priority should be Azaan, but the writers have strange ideas regarding true love and marriage. Shayra allowing Noor to taunt and harass the Mirzas is also wrong; it goes against her farz and Islamic education too.

I want to see the Shayra from episode one and Azaan from the hospital episode fighting this...

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Originally posted by: The_May_Rose

Thank you Nora and I think all the viewers are in agreement; Noor is bad, Azaan should speak against this but it makes no sense for Shayra to still keep him to his promise.

I think the only reason the writers are showing this is for a week full of angst, as ShaZaan struggle to accept the circumstance and eventually either the nikaah is stopped or it too late to stop it but ShaZaan do not divorce...

Azaan could have two wives as per the concept of the show, although we all expected a better stronger reason for it. I also think Shaira's priority should be Azaan, but the writers have strange ideas regarding true love and marriage. Shayra allowing Noor to taunt and harass the Mirzas is also wrong; it goes against her farz and Islamic education too.

I want to see the Shayra from episode one and Azaan from the hospital episode fighting this...

The promise was made so Noor doesn't commit suicide, now that everyone knows they can stop her, it's not like Shaira wants Noor to marry Azaan, they are just messing with Shaira's character to adjust Noor between Shazaan. It doesn't make any sense for Shaira to stop Azaan when Noor is insulting his mother, why is Noor so important for Shaira? Or she is way too important for the writer and director but they are not able to fit her in the story without offending people, backdoor acceptance for Noor and Azaan's marriage is blaming Shaira for it.

I asked my colleague to tell me under which condition multiple marriages are allowed in Islam and she said that the woman has to be a widow because Prophet married a widow, to give them a respectful position. My knowledge is limited here but they are just misusing religion to promote polygamy.

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Originally posted by: NoraSM

The promise was made so Noor doesn't commit suicide, now that everyone knows they can stop her, it's not like Shaira wants Noor to marry Azaan, they are just messing with Shaira's character to adjust Noor between Shazaan. It doesn't make any sense for Shaira to stop Azaan when Noor is insulting his mother, why is Noor so important for Shaira? Or she is way too important for the writer and director but they are not able to fit her in the story without offending people, backdoor acceptance for Noor and Azaan's marriage is blaming Shaira for it.

I asked my colleague to tell me under which condition multiple marriages are allowed in Islam and she said that the woman has to be a widow because Prophet married a widow, to give them a respectful position. My knowledge is limited here but they are just misusing religion to promote polygamy.

I do not know the rules for multiple marriages but I have read of marriage to a widow. The show is misusing religion, love and relationships to show polygamy, if not promoting it.

@ Bold - Precisely, they showing this as Shayra's fault, even though Azaan loves her unconditionally. No wife could leave a husband like Azaan or the family he gave her. I hope they do not ruin Shayra to justify this track...

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Originally posted by: NoraSM

The promise was made so Noor doesn't commit suicide, now that everyone knows they can stop her, it's not like Shaira wants Noor to marry Azaan, they are just messing with Shaira's character to adjust Noor between Shazaan. It doesn't make any sense for Shaira to stop Azaan when Noor is insulting his mother, why is Noor so important for Shaira? Or she is way too important for the writer and director but they are not able to fit her in the story without offending people, backdoor acceptance for Noor and Azaan's marriage is blaming Shaira for it.

I asked my colleague to tell me under which condition multiple marriages are allowed in Islam and she said that the woman has to be a widow because Prophet married a widow, to give them a respectful position. My knowledge is limited here but they are just misusing religion to promote polygamy.

Bear with me while I try to explain this. Sorry in advance for the long post lol:

It depends on which sect of Islam the person follows, I've seen people say different things. From my knowledge, generally, there are no real rules to it. Some people believe that the husband must ask for permission from his first wife, but most others do not. However, the first wife can file for divorce if she's not happy with his decision - and it's an accepted cause for divorce or if the 2nd marriage was hidden from her and she find out later, also cause for divorce. Or the second wife can do the same if he never disclosed that he was married already.

Also, a nikkah is really a marriage contract, thats what the term means (I have no idea what is the elan-e-nikkah the show is talking about. I've never once heard that in my life but I'm also not Indian and marriage in Islam is a very cultural thing, different cultures have different names for things). A wife can stipulate, as a part of her conditions to marry, that he can't ever take other wives. But I don't think Shaira did that lol. If she did, the whole story would be over. 🤣

The only major condition for which the husband is responsible for is equal and fair treatment of all wives. While it's natural for him to have more emotional attachments to one vs another. Equal treatment really means equal time spent with them, equal care, etc, otherwise he's committing injustice and that's not allowed / is sinful. This is why most men in this day and age don't have multiple wives. It's a lot of burden and responsibility, that Muslims believe that we must answer to God about & because of that, most men are scared of it. Having one marriage is hard enough for most people, the idea of having to deal with another wife scares most men nowadays 🤣🤣.

One of the justifications of polygamy is to provide care and stability for the other unmarried women of society. This is why it is encouraged for Muslim men to marry widows, single mothers, divorced women, slightly older women too, since these women are often neglected in society and are left to fend for themselves. (i'm not going to get into a discussion of modern day feminism and the ability women have now to care for themselves, etc, I'm just explaining the reasoning/justification of why polygamy is allowed). But there is no such requirement to do so. The guy's second wife does not need to be of anyone in this category if he doesn't want her to be.

Polygamy, or the allowance of it in a religion, is a hard pill for people to swallow. Not many people understand why people would do it. Which is fair enough, most Muslim women I know abhor the idea of polygamy too. And most men don't like the idea and are scared of the serious responsibility it actually entails.

I think everyone has to come to terms with the fact that as Muslim characters, and they're allowed to do this. It's not really a promotion of anything because in Islam it isn't considered morally wrong to have more than one wife. Whether the audience likes the reasons behind it or not is a different story. I'm Muslim and I generally dislike polygamy story lines (seen enough of them in Pakistani dramas.. -_-) unless I already know the husband will only end up with one of the wives or if the need to marry was justified IMO.

I also think everyone would have accepted the polygamy if it was done out of a real need to protect Noor (i.e. from Khalid). The way its being done now - there's just no need for it other than to fulfill Noor's (and basically now Shaira's ...) stubborn wishes and to have a plot of one man, two wives. Even then. If the writers just wanted to have a story about one man, two wives, why not make the reasons for polygamy a lot more justified to the viewers???? I assume most of the viewers are non-Muslim, so they would probably have a hard time accepting polygamy in general. Heck, like I said before, most Muslims don't like it either. Why would they think what they are showing is going to gain sympathy and understanding from the audience???

In 2019, no one really likes the guy who marries the second wife just because he wanted to. When I say most Muslims don't want to practice polygamy / are weirded out by it - I'm not lying lolol. The writers think they're justifying the second marriage to the audience so the audience doesn't freak out over a polygamist storyline. But I think they've done quite the opposite. 🤣🤣🤣

But, anyway, technically Azaan doesn't need a justified reason to marry Noor, he can do so for whatever reason he wants. It's up to Shaira to decide if she wants to stick around to that. And if he does marry Noor, all his threats he made to Noor about not giving her any haq etc., is Islamically wrong. She's entitled to everything Shaira is entitled to, even if he has more of love for Shaira. But as a human, I totally get where he's coming from. And I think Sharia is stupid for forcing this on him as if she's still being threatened by Noor - everybody's caught up on Noor's schemes. What else is Sharia scared of?

Azaan has no desire to marry Noor, and is only doing so because his wife asked him to. Is that a good enough reason from an Islamic perspective, yes - if he can provide equal haq to both. Is it a good enough reason in reality and what the promo promised? No. LOL.

Edited by fria319 - 6 years ago

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