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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: fosla

If you read my takes, Iam sure most of you would have known that Iam clearly not happy with the way story progressed towards separation. Don't take it otherwise. Iam all for separation since it makes us value the other person and cherish love even more. But I want to throw a question at you. What exactly was at stake for Priya during the deadline?

Niharika has threatened and made a deal to leave Ram to save her brother.
As I see there are two things:
1)Relationship with Ram
2)Karthik's release from jail.
There were precious 72 hours which was spent in finding the past of Nih, a tough task since KK hasn't been successful in 20 years. Or may be she stopped trying after the promise to the anonymous person.
The possibilities that I see if Priya didn't concede defeat to Niharika are single fold for me. Natasha wouldn't have returned and Karthik wouldn't have been out of jail.
What exactly could Niharika have done to Ram that Priya put her relationship at stake. She could have dangered Ram's life by how? Tablets or made their relationship sour. Would Ram have taken the ultimate step to divorce Priya if Nutz didn't return? I doubt. Would Ram have not survived the misery of a missing sister? I doubt. Would she have made Ram the pauper? Did it matter since there was a pharmaceutical company on Priya's name that they could have survived on.
What exactly was at stake: Did the love for a brother exceed the trust in the relationship?
P:s - It was the same man who on hearing that the to be wife needed to delay the baarat made the family go in chakkar. It was the same man who on hearing Priya's reasons for meeting KK engulfed in embrace and let out his ugly past. It was the same man who on hearing Ayesha's words to tell his wife to investigate both sides ended up bagging a contract for her.
P:P:s - I would like to hear views which say BT has no logic since I really want to know! This is not a bashing post but I want to understand those who feel differently!



Wow! This is a very very good post and i thank you so much for posing such thought provoking questions 👏. CVs beware, BALH is officially under analysis, no more stupidity and illogical tracks. 😆. However, i am slightly in disagreement 'cause i believe that there was indeed enough at stake for priya to go forth with her decision to leave KM😕 and therefore i see substantial logic for the way that this separation track has progressed. Its not just her brother, but its her love for ram, her love for her father etc... There was too much at stake if she did not leave. and priya seized the perfect time to do so. Think about it, if she stayed then niharika would unleash her full strength on her. Niharika may be a botox bimbo 😆👏 but her chracter has such strength that has not yet been revealed to the viewers. Priya realizes this because everyone that has ever challenged her is scared sh*tless of her and just wants to stay away.

And her leaving KM is not representative of her defeat. In fact, what i got from her leaving was that she actually won one of many battles to come in this war against Niharika. You know what they say keep your friends close and your enemies closer. This is exactly what she did she is trying to convince Niharika that she is not a threat to her. She said "i couldn't resist your offer was so tempting" and then she gives Niharika a selfish smile. Even when she was yelling at Ram, she did hint to Ram that you are such a Mama's boy by saying frankly that c'mon ram leave your mom's pallu and think for yourself. (after that statement Niharika was slightly taken aback b/c she did not know whether she was being insulted by Priya or was this just acting!). This is the logic behind her leaving KM. KK and Jayesh kicked and screamed and tried to fight her one on one BUT look at where that has left them🤢. especially KK who is Ram's REAL mother, she tried to fight back BUT all that has left her with is bitterness and hate from her SON😭.

If Priya did not leave KM willingly then Niharika would have worked harder to have her KICKED out of the KM. Also, Niharika is SMART she has told Natasha the alibi for convincing Ram that Karthik did not kidnap her BUT she did not mention anything about the DV incident. SO in that case if Priya backs out from her decision to LEAVE then that plus the abortion could be used against her by Niharika to harbour hate in Ram's Heart. REMEMBER RAM WORSHIPS HIS STEP MOM, he danced to Niharika's tune after Natasha disappeared. in 72hrs Ram's and Priya's relationship was strained and if a relationship is strained then all the elements in a relationship start to disappear INCLUDING TRUST! So if there is NO trust then on what basis will Priya try to win without leaving? Ram will protect his family, he was ready to divorce Priya when Niharika said that Priya insulted her (remember when the KK track was going on, although he let it slide after listening to her reason, which concerned him. She even apologized for insulting his MOM AND THE THING IS THAT WAS ALL BS, PRIYA DID NOT EVEN INSULT HER). ALSO, VIKRAM did not steal the haar that time BUT RAM RELIES on EVIDENCE. Priya needs EVIDENCE to support her words, NIHARIKA does noT!

And so i really believe that he would have divorced Priya if Natasha remained missing and niharika kept filling his ears with nonsense. he even told her that if she believes her brother then she can stay at her house and that he does not need her. Although when she came to the KM, they were talking nicely, he NEVER SAID SORRY PRIYA I DID NOT MEAN IT [correct me if he did but i did not watch those episodes] until after HE REALIZED THAT CHOTI WAS NOT KIDNAPPED (NIHARIKA is very good at manipulating RAM, it's her bread and butter 😃😆)

""The possibilities that I see if Priya didn't concede defeat to Niharika are single fold for me. Natasha wouldn't have returned and Karthik wouldn't have been out of jail.""
Therefore, if in a week natasha's disappearance and Karthiks stay in jail caused such a strain on RAya's relationship then think about what would be left of their relationship if Priya had decided not to leave and subsequently Natasha would not have returned and Karthik would have stayed in jail. and once again Priya did not concede to defeat she has infact took a step towards victory, SHE has left RAM in a state of guilt, preserving their relationship. she would have been defeated if Niharika got Ram to KICK HER OUT OF THE KM, which would have ruined their newly formed relationship and harboured hate in Ram's heart for her, making it harder for her to ever show Ram Niharika's true colours!



I agree, BT has some moments where what seems logical is actually illogical upon analysis and other moments where what looks illogical to the naked eye is infact rooted in logical thoughts, if you go beneath the surface.

Edited by Oneandall - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#42
Wow!! Iam amazed at the responses! THanks for taking time to throw some light on the questions. Would get back in sometime to reply to each of you!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: fosla

Wow!! Iam amazed at the responses! THanks for taking time to throw some light on the questions. Would get back in sometime to reply to each of you!!


Hi angie...
Am waiting to see if agree to agree or stand on opposites sides!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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What exactly could Niharika have done to Ram that Priya put her relationship at stake. She could have dangered Ram's life by how? Tablets or made their relationship sour.
No one knew to what extent she would have gone to hurt Ram and Priya's relationship. So at that point in time, it was a smart move to take Niharika seriously... Not listening to Niharika at that point would mean Kartik pays for the crime he never comitted so YES it was a right move to get out of KM and plan your next move. Its not like Ram was in a hurry to think rationally at this point anyways.

Would Ram have taken the ultimate step to divorce Priya if Nutz didn't return? I doubt.
I do not know if it would have lead to divorce but definitely would have led to a point where there was nothing left in the relationship. Situation was miserable from the minute DV scene started... and YES eventually Niharika would have been successful in convincing Ram that Priya was at fault and to divorce her. She was successful the fist time around.. this time she was close.. she knows how to work Ram's brain and show him exactly what she wants him to see.

Would Ram have not survived the misery of a missing sister? I doubt.
No he would not have. Man supposedly gave up food and sleep and was in an angry mode ever since his sister went missing. Even if he survived the misery, he would have made life Impossible for the people who he thought were responsible for his missing sister.


What exactly was at stake: Did the love for a brother exceed the trust in the relationship?

LOVE was at stake here. whether it was for Husband or for Brother.. Priya's decision was taken considering Ram and her future as well as Kartiks. Priya is trying to free Ram from underneath Niharika. Right now he has no future as she controls him completely.

What relationship are you referring to and what trust? Ram can't see beyond his mother.. Maa ne jo kaha wo patthar ki lakir. And i am not bashing him..i am just saying that his character is written as such.


P:s - It was the same man who on hearing that the to be wife needed to delay the baarat made the family go in chakkar. It was the same man who on hearing Priya's reasons for meeting KK engulfed in embrace and let out his ugly past. It was the same man who on hearing Ayesha's words to tell his wife to investigate both sides ended up bagging a contract for her.

Funny sista... to Gita's post you said " i didnt know we were keeping score" but here you go again showing how many ways Ram has understood Priya's situation and has helped her. You might has well put these in a bullet point and add SCORE next to it.

I didn't know we were looking to have Brownie points for Ram being a dutiful husband back then.. so he can be "whatever" he is being now. 😆😆

Edited by IndYa4u - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Angie - He did not walk away from Priya but shut all the doors of communucation and told her he didnt want her back. how different is it from walking away? he might as well have walked away.. right?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: IndYa4u

Angie - He did not walk away from Priya but shut all the doors of communucation and told her he didnt want her back. how different is it from walking away? he might as well have walked away.. right?

I said the same thing in reply!😛
BTW, can you see how much I missed you y'day?😆😉
Edited by Priya_Fan - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: IndYa4u

What exactly could Niharika have done to Ram that Priya put her relationship at stake. She could have dangered Ram's life by how? Tablets or made their relationship sour.
No one knew to what extent she would have gone to hurt Ram and Priya's relationship. So at that point in time, it was a smart move to take Niharika seriously... Not listening to Niharika at that point would mean Kartik pays for the crime he never comitted so YES it was a right move to get out of KM and plan your next move. Its not like Ram was in a hurry to think rationally at this point anyways.

When you can technically break promises to your husband to not talk to his mom or have any connections, what would have stopped when she moved to the guest room after Nutz arrival. And you yourself said, no body knows the extent. Ram is a golden goose here. She knows that neither Sid or Mamaji are capable of handling the industries. She is no satisfied woman with all the properties and companies in her name because she could have hurt Ram and walked away. Atleast the fear of getting caught would have been over. But she hasn't and she is still trying to get the closer ones away instead which means that she would never ever risk endangering Ram the money making machine!

Would Ram have taken the ultimate step to divorce Priya if Nutz didn't return? I doubt.
I do not know if it would have lead to divorce but definitely would have led to a point where there was nothing left in the relationship. Situation was miserable from the minute DV scene started... and YES eventually Niharika would have been successful in convincing Ram that Priya was at fault and to divorce her. She was successful the fist time around.. this time she was close.. she knows how to work Ram's brain and show him exactly what she wants him to see.

She was not successful the 1st time around. Getting a divorce paper and a divorce per say are worlds apart. The relationship has changed so much for better as has the dependency on each other. Nutz was seen outside. And if she was kidnapped again when Karthik was at jail obviously is an indicator of his non involvement. But then taking the easier route to walk out because the guy would anyways not live without you tells you a different story!

Would Ram have not survived the misery of a missing sister? I doubt.
No he would not have. Man supposedly gave up food and sleep and was in an angry mode ever since his sister went missing. Even if he survived the misery, he would have made life Impossible for the people who he thought were responsible for his missing sister.

Oh please Mittal!! But he was drinking juice when Nutz was returning. Before he saw her. And that 200 + pounds body could obviously survive a few days of no aloo paranthas.


What exactly was at stake: Did the love for a brother exceed the trust in the relationship?

LOVE was at stake here. whether it was for Husband or for Brother.. Priya's decision was taken considering Ram and her future as well as Kartiks. Priya is trying to free Ram from underneath Niharika. Right now he has no future as she controls him completely.

What relationship are you referring to and what trust? Ram can't see beyond his mother.. Maa ne jo kaha wo patthar ki lakir. And i am not bashing him..i am just saying that his character is written as such.
Love was not at stake. But that was the gamble. Niharika and Priya played the blackmailing part, one in the name of motherly love and the other in the name of sacrifice cum love. And it does appear on Tue/.Wed that there was no plan and even Vikram got surprised. This was post Karthik's return home. On monday, i would have agreed with you that Priya is trying to free Ram from underneath niharika. But the last two episodes have made it otherwise.
Ram can't see beyond his mother. that's what the whole story is based on. I think he requires enough bashing for walkin upto his mom when the newspaper article came out. Enough kicks for going all out on Karthik based on circumstances. He was wrong and also when he told that he didn't want her back or when he told her dad tum hare baap. these are not right under any circumstances. But let him pay the price for it. He has transfered the company to Priya's name. Not a mumma's boy act. When his mom wants a car, he doesn't leave his wife alone but takes her with him. The last week's scnes were more a justification for the dialogue. The changes that were drastic about Priya's importance in his life got eradicated with two scenes.


P:s - It was the same man who on hearing that the to be wife needed to delay the baarat made the family go in chakkar. It was the same man who on hearing Priya's reasons for meeting KK engulfed in embrace and let out his ugly past. It was the same man who on hearing Ayesha's words to tell his wife to investigate both sides ended up bagging a contract for her.

Funny sista... to Gita's post you said " i didnt know we were keeping score" but here you go again showing how many ways Ram has understood Priya's situation and has helped her. You might has well put these in a bullet point and add SCORE next to it.

Iam not making a score here Mittal! But asking you to take a note that he listened to her when she spoke. He didn't even know the reasons for her meeting KK but took her words without needing further proof. That's why Iam saying that the lead up to separation could have been much more different since the CV's have gone yo yo! These are reminders that a Mommy's boy was not exactly one all the time! So may be he didn't get the benefit of doubt!

I didn't know we were looking to have Brownie points for Ram being a dutiful husband back then.. so he can be "whatever" he is being now. 😆😆

I have no problems in people getting their due when they are wrong. But don't add it up and give with interest just to make yourself sacrifical lamb! Whatevver she screamed at him for having wronged her family was entirely right. There is no doubting that. But the words later at Sharma's and then the convo at Vikram's do not justify the means. So my question was whether it was Karthik;s life at stake seems to be partly agreed by you! Rest my case!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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She said she does not need his help.. never said she didnt want HIM.. thats the difference. Yes she let herself blackmailed but we believe there is a plan behind it. She never said it was Ram's fault for leaving the house. YES the drama she put on in front of the family looked like it.. but it was to show Niharika that she meant business.
At Sharma's she clearly stated that Ram was not at fault and that she herself had left the KM.
What would have happened max?? cant tell.. until we hear KK's side. She has gone thru this threat from Niharika. She sure knows to what length this woman get go hence she advised Priaya to leave Ram and so did the Doctor. But in this case, it looks like Priya has a plan to straighten out Niharika and her plans and i hope.. on the way.. she manages to get Ram to leave his mom's pallu (as she put it) and think on his own.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: IndYa4u

Angie - He did not walk away from Priya but shut all the doors of communucation and told her he didnt want her back. how different is it from walking away? he might as well have walked away.. right?

What exactly did Priya do now? Any different? I didn't justify that and I don't think we should be justifying her act. Now that's the similarity in yardstick that Iam asking for!
Okie.. now got to rush to pick up kids.. will be back!

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