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Posted: 14 years ago
yes this was a good episode.
Juhi acting was excellent.

Also murli despair moved me, he just can't lose his wife.

I was somehow disappointed in the script because first Bharti wanted to give a child to murli but murli clearly doesn't want it. But now she is doing it for herself : she wants her baby to live no matter what.

We can say that she is stubborn but murli is also stubborn in his own way. If it was an occidental show, everyone would have hated him because it's bharti's life and she can do whatever she wants with it.
But now that it's a indian show, we all focus on the fact that bharti is egoist and selfish... and this happens every time she takes a decision, no matter what the decision is about (jewellery, family, her house).

Maybe it's what the Cv meant when they started the show telling that she was a independent woman, maybe they didn't mean that she is a tomboy (not exactly a tomboy, but i'm referring to preeto character in the serial with the same name) but that she doesn't need anyone approval to do what she thinks is right.

And yes, she slapped him. A lot of people are wondering how she could do that to his loooving hubby when she didn't do anything to Gaumti.
I don't think a lot of people will understand what i'll say (i always lose my way in my own thoughts) but i'll still try to make it clear :
Bharti is dealing with a lot of rudeness from people that she doesn't even know : when she walks down the street or whenever she goes to a public place. So even if she is strong, there is no way that the good option would have been to beat the crap out of them every time.
First it would have made him a bad person, also she couldn't have fight every single one. So i guess she channels her anger and keep it inside.
That's why she look very nice and goody whatever, it's because she grew with the strength to forgive a lot. If she hadn't do so, she would have sunk into her anger long time ago.
Being nice is her own way to save herself. I know that sound cheesy and weird but from real life experience, i can relate to her on this particular aspect of her personality.

So to get her mad you have to cross limits that she puts very very close to her. Her child for example is very precious to her and no one should even think of harming it, even if it's the father. That's why she slapped him in my opinion.
All what Gau doing was taking her money, and she is screaming over roof from day one that she DOESN'T care about her money. Gau in fact, never crossed any of Bharti's limits while Bharti keep crossing Gau's limits since they don't care about the same things at all.

Also, it wasn't that weird of her to slap Murli : by grabbing her arm, he was also using strength and no one is making a fuss about it. She is short so he knew (or better he thought) that he could easily control her but she didn't let him do so. By slapping him she made him realise that she isn't a child and if she tells him to stay away from her then he SHOULD STAY AWAY ! You can't say that she didn't warn him !!!

Last but not least, when Bharti sits down and listen peacefully to what people say (or just bash her for no reason) she is goody whatever, but when she gets angry then she is insane. Whatever she does, it seems that she is wrong.
Yep, MAYBE MAYBE Murli didn't deserve to be slap because he loves her. Yes, but wasn't he also egoist when he wanted to abort a child that half belonged to Bharti?

From my personal pov (without considering any articles), Bharti is going to die in both of the case so Murli should be the one to give up already. He shouldn't play with a life like that, (the baby's one) and should treasure whatever he can save (the baby) as a memory of his beloved wife 😊

Because she is actually in pain, I don't except her to act all reasonable. I don't think that she is in her best mood : ) Seriously, guys, this wouldn't have been realistic if she sat down, hugged Murli being grateful for his love!

For once in her life she didn't put anyone else than her before herself and still it seems that it's wrong. I'm confused about the other reaction in this forum, without saying that any one is wrong.

Murli treated her badly in the past yes, but it was all about money. In the other hand he also saved her life (let's put it like that). Now he is trying to abort her child, I can understand that she changed of perspective.

She absolutely called him a liar but she is tired, crying, feels betrayed and I don't expect all her dialogue to make sense. Yes, she also lied to him but that doesn't mean she'll be okay if someone lied to her. That doesn't work like that.

All Murli did was for her, but that's defo not what she wants because she put her baby before herself…


EDIT : @addicted : i largely completed my post after you liked it, if you don't agree, i don't mind you deleting your "like" :)
Edited by bavdfan - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
I don't have a problem with Bharti slapping Murli. It was done in the heat of the moment and in full rage. I understand it totally. I was shocked, but I don't condemn her for it.
As for Murli using force to control her, the two are not the same. She was throwing things around and being extremely aggressive and violent. He was merely trying to restrain her. I don't think the height difference has anything to do with. In plenty of shows I've seen the man trying to physically control a woman who was losing it totally. We don't assume that those men are treating their wives like children. So why should we assume that just because Bharti is smaller than him, Murli thought he could deal with her like a child? My husband has done it enough times to me when I've been maha upset about something (though nowhere as crazy as Bharti and not even at him! lol)
Clearly talking to her calmly and softly wasn't working, so he needed to do something a bit more determined.
As for Murli being egoist because he wanted to abort the child, then isn't Bharti being equally egoist by trying to give birth despite knowing she'll die and it's not what Murli wants? If Murli is wrong so is Bharti.
Forgiving people for their mistakes is one thing. Not pulling them upon it first and holding them to account is quite another. I would understand this forgiving idea, if she had once said that' yes Gau, or so and so you are wrong. What you did was unforgiveable. But still I'll forgive you because I'm the better person here'
Instead she validates their faults by making excuses for them. 'Gau did what she did because she was thinking about her child's future blah blah blah'. Are we then to accept that the end justifies the means no matter how underhanded it is? If that be the case then Murli shouldn't be held accountable any more than Gau or anyone else (Not saying this what you are saying, but this is what you think Bharti is saying. Right?)
You're saying that all Gau did was go after money? Yes, after knowing that Bharti might die if she gives birth. Murli may have wanted abort his unborn fetus. But gau too, was jumping for joy at the prospect of a living, breathing person heading towards death. Just because she didn't say so in front of Bharti, doesn't mean Bharti wasn't aware of it. Which compassionate person takes advantage of another person's misfortune like that? Bharti knew that that's why Gau was doing it.
While I understand totally what you are saying about Murli giving up bearing in mind that Bharti will die (so we are being led to belive at present), it's easier said than done. It is human nature to hold onto hope right till the end. This is what Murli is doing. If and when Bharti dies, he will have no choice but to accept it. But until then no-one would give up.
My father was diagnosed with pancreas cancer 7 years ago. From diagnosis till death, was only 4 months. Despite being told almost immediately upon diagnosis that he will die, I never stopped hoping for a miracle. Deep in my heart I knew he would die, and there wasn't a damn thing I could do, despite having the best doctors and nurses treating him. But right up until he took his last breath in front of me, I still hoped for a miracle. I saw him take his last breath and still some part of my brain was saying 'maybe miraculously he will start breathing again'
I'm wasn't being stupid. Nor crazy. I was being human. We think we can hold on to our loved ones by the sheer power of our love alone. I can understand Murli's POV completely. Accepting someone's inevitable death is a lot harder than just thinking to yourself 'OK it's going to happen, so let's just sit back'.
And just because I went through it once doesn't mean I learnt my lesson the next time. Because I did the same thing when 2 years after him I watched my Jethani slowly die from cancer. And once again I kept hope against my deeper knowledge, that she would survive.
In short what I'm trying to say is, in the words of Prophet Muhammad, 'Man dies before his hopes do'.
While I may love Bharti I'm not blind to her faults. The same goes for Murli. When he's been wrong I've called for him to be hanged! And yesterday I totally agreed that he should not have gone behind her back.
I have no issues with her slapping him. I have no issues with her feeling hurt. I have no issues with her being angry. But I do have issues with the fact that she isn't even giving him the space to say what he feels. Yesterday, she just didn't want to hear what he had to say about how this was affecting him. It was all about her. How is it fair to ask a man to stand by and watch as his wife heads towards death and not only be allowed not to do anything, but not even to say anything?
Frankly, I don't like the way this entire track has been dealt with. The husband-wife relationship has been into a joke. The whole abortion idea has been turned into a farce. CVS messed up as far as I'm concerened. There are too many bloopers in the track, in dialogues etc. Just wrap it up already and get to the leap.
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Posted: 14 years ago
@rakhie thanks for answering !
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Posted: 14 years ago
Anyone else notice that they used a body double for vikrant during yesterdays pooja ceremony?
At one point when they panned away from the family and shot from the back, it was clearly not vikrant. Although in the next shot from the front it was him again.
I hate it when they do that. It just makes the scene feel strange, when you are aware that it is another person there and not the actual actor.
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Posted: 14 years ago
well I have gone through something like this. I can relate to Murli & Bharti very closely... My baby was born in my 6.5 months of pregnancy... it was the biggest snow storm of 60 years in the East coast in US... my husband was struck in another country due to that while flying back to the US... I was taken to the hospital by ambulance after I started bleeding etc... I am a doctor myself but before going into the operation theater, I told my doctor to save the baby in case one has to be chosen...(even though I had signed all the documents stating that my life will be saved before the baby's...something that every pregnant woman knowingly or unknowingly signs before delivering a baby in the US )... But after my surgery, my doctor told me that my husband kept calling after he found out that I was in the hospital and told the doctor, no matter what, save my wife... since that day, when we have an argument, even if he is wrong, I let him go... just because even though I knew how much he loved me...now it is confirmed 😊
Edited by JattiTude - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
Jatti,to read what u have been through, my god, affected me emotionally. Happy u r ok, and it shows how u realise each other after such big happenings in ur life.And, as u said, the emotions of a pregnant woman are never rational. And i guess they shouldn't!
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: JattiTude

well I have gone through something like this. I can relate to Murli & Bharti very closely... My baby was born in my 6.5 months of pregnancy... it was the biggest snow storm of 60 years in the East coast in US... my husband was struck in another country due to that while flying back to the US... I was taken to the hospital by ambulance after I started bleeding etc... I am a doctor myself but before going into the operation theater, I told my doctor to save the baby in case one has to be chosen...(even though I had signed all the documents stating that my life will be saved before the baby's...something that every pregnant woman knowingly or unknowingly signs before delivering a baby in the US )... But after my surgery, my doctor told me that my husband kept calling after he found out that I was in the hospital and told the doctor, no matter what, save my wife... since that day, when we have an argument, even if he is wrong, I let him go... just because even though I knew how much he loved me...now it is confirmed 😊






@Jattitude, yours is a moving story, like every other story...i am happy to have you here at the forum to share it with us... and even more happy that you reflected on the real husband and wife relationship...God bless you !
earlier, @bavdfan had told us of her story...it was sooo moving...before that @addicted had told us of her friend's story, and before that @fuzzy had told us of her sister's story...

bharti's story is a real life story...and ask all those millions of couples and families who have been through a similar situation like hers...they all can relate to bharti and murli very closely...

BAVD has reached its climax before the leap, and i am looking forward to watch some of the best performances by the cast of the show...Good job team BAVD, keep it up!
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Posted: 14 years ago
We mept always complaining the CVs. today I have to say, good job u r doing these days!!! Hash u r absolutely rite!
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Posted: 14 years ago
I cried so much in today epi, i cried more than it was actually needed. I wonder if anyone else did...

Waiting for the WU to share my thoughts.
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Posted: 14 years ago
Thanks all... yeas, when I look back and think about that time... we did go through a lot... my baby was in the hospital for 2.5 months... but with everyone's blessings, she is doing absolutely fine... I am doing good too... You can see part of her head in my profile picture :-) Yes, other than some out of proportion things, BAVD has some real facts in the show... the emotions are real... I just hope that no mother or father has to ever go through this where he/she has to chose the baby or the spouse...

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