The changed Simran

Well, I think Simran was a bold and strong woman at the beginning of the show, but now all she's around is to produce a bucket full of tears! Have you guys noticed how in the recent episodes all she does is cry,cry, cry, cry, cry and cry! If only the problems of life would go away by crying, crying, crying and loads more of crying! Simran was a positive influence for women, but now I'm starting to think that she's a negative influence. I think she lacks parenting skills. Seriously, seems like Sinha is relying more on genetic factor (by making Sia like her mom, Sid like his dad, and Astha seems to have inherited bad qualities from both her parents), but parenting skills also makes a huge difference as to how the child comes up to be, does not it? I don't understand the fact that she has to follow every single of Astha's irrational wishes. I mean love always does not mean obeying what the person says. You have to strict with a child at times to make them understand that the world will not always act the way they want it to work. You have to learn to accept disappointment, sadness and most importantly truth. Astha seems to lack all of these qualities, and ironically Simran seems to encourage her (by giving in to all her evil demands). Simran is only hurting Astha and her future by being so weak.

Astha and Sid's relation seems to be disgusting as well. By encouraging Sid and Astha's relationship

I don't think any normal parents would approve of their child achieving love forcefully in life. Like, come to think of it Sid has NEVER told Simran or anyone else for the fact that he loves, or even likes Astha in that manner! Another thing there's a huge age difference between Astha and Sid. Astha's like 18 and Sid must be around (28)! When Sia was born Sid was atleast 8 years old, Astha's two years younger than Sia, so that makes her 10 years younger than him, doesn't it?

Another, thing I do believe that both Simran and Abhi are mostly responsible for Neha's death like Radha Jee believes it to be. Come to think of it Simran didn't really leave Abhi and Neha alone after they were married. It was like Abhi was just married to Neha for the sake of "obeying Simran's wishes". Neha's jealousy and insecurity were justified. Would you like your husband to come back from US and head right to their ex? (Without even coming home). Neha on her part did do all she could to make Abhi happy, she tried to accept Abhi's "Relationship" with Simran, loved the real Astha for Abhi.. All these major stress issues can indeed lead to the situation that Neha faced. Simran kind of ruined Neha's life by asking Abhi to marry her, and then by being a third wheel. If only she hadn't forced Abhi to marry her, Neha would be sad for a while but then she'd get over it. She could have married someone else and may well still be alive.

Simran seems to ruin everyone's life that comes across her.

Hi everybody,I am new to this India-Forum.I like Astitva a lot.

But now even I think that Simran Astha relationship was not at all strong and her upbringing raise question about Simran being a good mother.

Thankx

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Originally posted by: smileee

Well, I think Simran was a bold and strong woman at the beginning of the show, but now all she's around is to produce a bucket full of tears! Have you guys noticed how in the recent episodes all she does is cry,cry, cry, cry, cry and cry! If only the problems of life would go away by crying, crying, crying and loads more of crying! Simran was a positive influence for women, but now I'm starting to think that she's a negative influence. I think she lacks parenting skills. Seriously, seems like Sinha is relying more on genetic factor (by making Sia like her mom, Sid like his dad, and Astha seems to have inherited bad qualities from both her parents), but parenting skills also makes a huge difference as to how the child comes up to be, does not it? I don't understand the fact that she has to follow every single of Astha's irrational wishes. I mean love always does not mean obeying what the person says. You have to strict with a child at times to make them understand that the world will not always act the way they want it to work. You have to learn to accept disappointment, sadness and most importantly truth. Astha seems to lack all of these qualities, and ironically Simran seems to encourage her (by giving in to all her evil demands). Simran is only hurting Astha and her future by being so weak.

Astha and Sid's relation seems to be disgusting as well. By encouraging Sid and Astha's relationship

I don't think any normal parents would approve of their child achieving love forcefully in life. Like, come to think of it Sid has NEVER told Simran or anyone else for the fact that he loves, or even likes Astha in that manner! Another thing there's a huge age difference between Astha and Sid. Astha's like 18 and Sid must be around (28)! When Sia was born Sid was atleast 8 years old, Astha's two years younger than Sia, so that makes her 10 years younger than him, doesn't it?

Another, thing I do believe that both Simran and Abhi are mostly responsible for Neha's death like Radha Jee believes it to be. Come to think of it Simran didn't really leave Abhi and Neha alone after they were married. It was like Abhi was just married to Neha for the sake of "obeying Simran's wishes". Neha's jealousy and insecurity were justified. Would you like your husband to come back from US and head right to their ex? (Without even coming home). Neha on her part did do all she could to make Abhi happy, she tried to accept Abhi's "Relationship" with Simran, loved the real Astha for Abhi.. All these major stress issues can indeed lead to the situation that Neha faced. Simran kind of ruined Neha's life by asking Abhi to marry her, and then by being a third wheel. If only she hadn't forced Abhi to marry her, Neha would be sad for a while but then she'd get over it. She could have married someone else and may well still be alive.

Simran seems to ruin everyone's life that comes across her.

i agree wid u

whenever my mom and i watch this show, we are like expecting her to cry the whole show or at least once, and if she doesn't than were like she must not be feeling well, because simran has to cry. i think it is simran's fault that aastha cannot accept the truth. simran has no right to decide who sid will love and be with, she gets upset if sid and sia are together. and i do think that she shud have left abhi and neha alone. i undertand that she backed out as soon as she found out that neha felt insecure about her, but she shouldn't have ruined neha and abhi's life by asking abhi to marry neha. seems as if she decides what happens in peoples life- abhi marry neha but still be with simran in a way, sia, stay away from sid, sid stay with aasth marry her even if it ruins your life i don't care, aastha stay happy and with sid, sia will never interfere in ur life even if she loves sid. first of all, she has a right to influence, help these people decide , not take their decisions for them!😡 she has no right whatsoever to decide who sid will love, hang around with!sid is not related to her in any way! she can have a say in abhi, sia, ann now aastha's lives now but not sid!

Hey jiankshom, smileee, I perfectly agree with you .You have analysed the issue very well. I do like Simran but I am not blind to her faults .I too do not understand why she feels that Astha will be hurt if she does this or Aastha might be offended if she does that .Simran loves Aastha too much and there was no Abhi to channelise her love with his support .How can a single mother not be handicapped ,more so , when she is a celebrity mom like Simran with considerable clout in society .

It does make one feel that one knows what is best for everyone .They unconsciously feel that they own the world and maybe that's why Simran feels that she can rightfully dictate terms to both Urmila and her son. Remember , Simran is used to power since childhood (Her father was a high ranking IAS officer)?

NO EXCUSE...sorry but Simran reall need to grow up as well. When she was younger she let her Father dictate her life and now she is following ht esame routine with the next generation. Can't seh see what unrequited love and mis - matched 'jodis' can do? Ruin ALL the lives involved.

Well, perhaps she is crying because a part of her realises that somethign lacked in her way of bringing up Aastha. She even says so. And her guilt over Neha dying could be the reason she tries to give everything (including Sid) to Aastha.

Still someone as intelligent as she i smeant to be should realise that doind so will only alienate her from those who love HER best.

Ah well, we will see.

Simran used to shop around for Neha's child, well not alone, but with Neha's husband and tormented her to hell. She started instructing where and how Neha's home should be organized when she was a guest there and let Neha go thru hell.

Simran is a witch and people who have mind of their own, become hurdle to her life. She first tries to handle (interfere in their lives) them with (her so called) love, then her anger, and when nothing works out, CRY CRY and CRY!

Originally posted by: chikoo

Simran used to shop around for Neha's child, well not alone, but with Neha's husband and tormented her to hell. She started instructing where and how Neha's home should be organized when she was a guest there and let Neha go thru hell.

Simran is a witch and people who have mind of their own, become hurdle to her life. She first tries to handle (interfere in their lives) them with (her so called) love, then her anger, and when nothing works out, CRY CRY and CRY!

Sooo true! I don't think she had any right what-so-over to go shopping with ABhi for Neha's child. Abhi has been portrayed at a lame character so his behavior of asking Simran accompany him shopping is understandable. Their excuse was that Simran knows more about what to buy for a child. That is like the lamest excuse I've ever heard! Abhi should have taken Neha with him. After all it is her child and HER husband. They treated Neha like a surrogate mother who was there only to "please" Abhi and have a child for him. It was quite clear that in emotional bonding Abhi was much more Simran's husband than Neha's.

Originally posted by: wawahehe

I am amazed and shocked to see how many women here want to be like Simran. Are they really prepared to have such a rotten life that a person happily leads only in Indian TV serials ? Do you really want to be treated like a doormat by your husband who can come and go out of your life whenever he pleases and deems right ? Do you really want to be told that you have become a second woman in someone's married life ? Do you really want to lead a life where you have to cry in every situation ? If your answer to any of these question is Yes, then good luck.....

I agree with you. Don't you find it extremely disturbing when Simran (who all her life has been manipulated by men) tries to console or "help" women in distress, and marital problems? Doesn't it seem extremely fake? BY giving in to Abhi and Astha the way she does for "love" shows her lack of self esteem. What will someone with such a bad self esteem help women fight all the injustice that happening to them?

Originally posted by: wawahehe

Smilee - excellent point. Abhi physically abused Neha for his pleasures. Where was the need for a baby when he was still in love with Simran. Poor Aastha was a result of Abhi's pleasures - I feel so sorry for her.

Thanks! I agree with you. Unconciously, I think Astha was an accident for Abhi (Although Sia was an accident to. Remember how he didn't want a child?), but she was very much wanted by Neha.

It was disgusting to see how Simran even dictated the times that Neha and Abhi would be physically close! That's extremely personal between a couple. K she is a doctor and she was concerned about Neha's health. She didn't pull herself away from their life (which was the best treatment), but managed to ask them to stay away .

Originally posted by: smileee

Well, I think Simran was a bold and strong woman at the beginning of the show, but now all she's around is to produce a bucket full of tears! Have you guys noticed how in the recent episodes all she does is cry,cry, cry, cry, cry and cry! If only the problems of life would go away by crying, crying, crying and loads more of crying! Simran was a positive influence for women, but now I'm starting to think that she's a negative influence. I think she lacks parenting skills. Seriously, seems like Sinha is relying more on genetic factor (by making Sia like her mom, Sid like his dad, and Astha seems to have inherited bad qualities from both her parents), but parenting skills also makes a huge difference as to how the child comes up to be, does not it? I don't understand the fact that she has to follow every single of Astha's irrational wishes. I mean love always does not mean obeying what the person says. You have to strict with a child at times to make them understand that the world will not always act the way they want it to work. You have to learn to accept disappointment, sadness and most importantly truth. Astha seems to lack all of these qualities, and ironically Simran seems to encourage her (by giving in to all her evil demands). Simran is only hurting Astha and her future by being so weak.

Astha and Sid's relation seems to be disgusting as well. By encouraging Sid and Astha's relationship

I don't think any normal parents would approve of their child achieving love forcefully in life. Like, come to think of it Sid has NEVER told Simran or anyone else for the fact that he loves, or even likes Astha in that manner! Another thing there's a huge age difference between Astha and Sid. Astha's like 18 and Sid must be around (28)! When Sia was born Sid was atleast 8 years old, Astha's two years younger than Sia, so that makes her 10 years younger than him, doesn't it?

Another, thing I do believe that both Simran and Abhi are mostly responsible for Neha's death like Radha Jee believes it to be. Come to think of it Simran didn't really leave Abhi and Neha alone after they were married. It was like Abhi was just married to Neha for the sake of "obeying Simran's wishes". Neha's jealousy and insecurity were justified. Would you like your husband to come back from US and head right to their ex? (Without even coming home). Neha on her part did do all she could to make Abhi happy, she tried to accept Abhi's "Relationship" with Simran, loved the real Astha for Abhi.. All these major stress issues can indeed lead to the situation that Neha faced. Simran kind of ruined Neha's life by asking Abhi to marry her, and then by being a third wheel. If only she hadn't forced Abhi to marry her, Neha would be sad for a while but then she'd get over it. She could have married someone else and may well still be alive.

Simran seems to ruin everyone's life that comes across her.

That was beautifully written smilee. I agree with you 100%. I love Simran's character but perhaps this is why I love her even more, becuase she is not perfect. Also I do not agree with many things that she did or still does. She did spoil Astha big time and as she has grown older, all the unhappiness in her life seems to have taken their toll and have made her weak in determination and fearful of any backlash from any of her love ones. She just cannot bear to think of upsetting anyone who is close to her for the fear of loosing them. I should say that has made her kind of helpless. She has become more like fearful of upsetting anyone. Pleasing everyone never really got anyone anywhere.

I guess iit is time she gathered herself together and laid some ground rules.

Like she did when she refused to share Abhi with Kiran when Abhi had that awful audacity to ask Simran if he could still carry on with kiran even while saying sorry to her for getting involved with Kiran in the first place😆