Anuj words are somewhat correct💯 - Page 2

Mahaan Anu knew Anuj anger even before marriage during Mukku track and she got into the relationship knowingly.She can sit with Vanraj on a bench and explain to him the situations / give him the boost of Ache pita and she never sat with Anuj to discuss issues during this track.Even when he pointed out / begged during new year all she did was cook and dance.

She is no Santhi ki Murthy , she slapped Kavya and threatened her to send jail.She has anger issues too.Her anger is justified as woman suffering but Anuj anger is being questioned here. I might be criticized here but what to do I am unable to believe and accept how a character can be ruined this badly.

Anuj character is ruined and now at bottom of the pit.It can’t be redeemed just like Anupamaa which lost its true essence.

He was introduced as person who takes time and process the situation and then take a decision. The day he showed his anger and throwing bottles at the wall that’s when this character has degraded.

Originally posted by: Harish111

I really hate the revisionist history and absurd comparisons going on here recently

I'd blame the show itself more than anything else. It seems like it eliminates a lot of subtleties and nuances - everything is so black and white and even if that was so, atleast their intentions would have been easy to understand - but no, it doesn't stop there - sometimes it paints black as white and white as black. Sometimes it portrays 'black's behavior is okay' for a long time and then a lighter shade of black comes and drops truth bombs and then they go back to 'black can still do anything they want.' This also has the tendencies to perpetuate stereotypes like nothing else.

I'm sure my way of describing this show is also rigid because I simply can't see this mess with objectivity anymore.

At this point, I think this was a brilliant point you made - that it's more like a bunch of awful people doing awful things. If you feel an inclination towards a certain character, it is absolutely easy to find a thousand instances of all the other characters behaving so awfully towards that character.

All in all, do people's posts reveal thoughts of their own? Definitely they do, but I do feel seeing it in this context makes sense.

That being said, I do agree that the level to which Anuj has tolerated does not seem like something almost any spouse in real life would tolerate and that has to be acknowledged. But at the same time, the level of blind obsession the character has shown in the name of love does not seem normal either.

Originally posted by: Radhe001

He was introduced as person who takes time and process the situation and then take a decision. The day he showed his anger and throwing bottles at the wall that’s when this character has degraded.

Beg to disagree here. The day he chose not to talk to his long-lost sister, his character went down the drain. I liked him because he was not a love-sick puppy earlier. He did not hand out the restaurant project to Anupama because he was in love with her. But after they made him confess, he was all about Anupama, as if his eyes have lost their light when it comes to anyone else.

Originally posted by: SoulSpiller

I'd blame the show itself more than anything else. It seems like it eliminates a lot of subtleties and nuances - everything is so black and white and even if that was so, atleast their intentions would have been easy to understand - but no, it doesn't stop there - sometimes it paints black as white and white as black. Sometimes it portrays 'black's behavior is okay' for a long time and then a lighter shade of black comes and drops truth bombs and then they go back to 'black can still do anything they want.' This also has the tendencies to perpetuate stereotypes like nothing else.

I'm sure my way of describing this show is also rigid because I simply can't see this mess with objectivity anymore.

At this point, I think this was a brilliant point you made - that it's more like a bunch of awful people doing awful things. If you feel an inclination towards a certain character, it is absolutely easy to find a thousand instances of all the other characters behaving so awfully towards that character.

All in all, do people's posts reveal thoughts of their own? Definitely they do, but I do feel seeing it in this context makes sense.

That being said, I do agree that the level to which Anuj has tolerated does not seem like something almost any spouse in real life would tolerate and that has to be acknowledged. But at the same time, the level of blind obsession the character has shown in the name of love does not seem normal either.

Totally agree with you. If we speak in terms of characters, I have never sided with Anupama, and nor I ever will. Even if Anupama is at 90% fault, it doesn't mean the entire fault is hers. Yes, Anuj has tolerated it to a level that nobody can, but again didn't he know that? Let's say he was unaware of the extent he would have to tolerate the nonsense but why did he do "Anu tum sahi ho" jaap all the time? Didn't that boost her ego? After the house warming Maa says that nobody has returned empty-handed from Shah house ever..Did this hypocritical couple forget the times Anuj was insulted and asked to leave? Instead of correcting her there, he would provide consolation that she was right..And there are numerous occasions like that.

Originally posted by: Harish111

I really hate the revisionist history and absurd comparisons going on here recently

No, a woman intentionally ignoring her adopted small kid and emotionally cheating on her husband with ex is NOT same as vanraj. And no, thats not a TRIVAL mistake, thats abuse of a child

These posts are absurd and are pretending that a woman can never be wrong or questioned no matter what she does. That no one can expect anything from a woman just because she is a woman. That questioning anything a woman does instead of always letting her hurt others automatically makes it abuse. That a man can be completely neglected as a spouse and wife can emotionally cheat but the man should keep quiet or he is an abuser and MCP. That a child can be abused and hurt, the man can be abused and hurt but should forever keep quiet or be labeled as an abuser

Expecting the bare minimum from a spouse, ecpecting her to actually care for a 7 year old kid and giving time to her husband in a new marriage is NOT abuse just because someone is a woman

And no, no spouse in the real world will bear if someone emotionally cheats with her ex. All such posts pretend that anupama is being asked to chose between her own kids and current family, but anyone who saw the series knows she spends most time with Baa and Vanraj, she ignored Anu, not for her kids but for Baa and Vanraj, lets not pretend people are not watching the show where anupama got late because she was cooking khichdi for her abusive ex in law

I have seen the comparisons becoming more and more absurd just because people want to force rhis comparisons. Words like abuse and MCP lose all meaning if you use it in such absurd way and this is one of the biggest problems women face in the real world. Just because some people misuse the gravity of these allegations, any situation does not conveniently become abuse just because a woman is questioned, big words cannot be thrown willy nilly just because a man does or says something. Words and terms have huge impact and relevance

Basically the gist of all such posts is that if you have any expectations from a woman, if you call her out on her neglecting an orphan kid or emotionally cheating with her ex, it automatically becimes absue just because she is a woman which is simple ridiculous.

How are we different from characters in the show, blindly, unconditionally, worshipping Anuapam? The gist of these posts is that Anupama can do whatever she wants, neglect relationships, no one can question her, or its labeled as abuse

Originally posted by: Koms9

thank you for saying this. Tired of same excuse that she was abused and anytime her mistakes are pointed, other person is a villain.

That's a sh*t excuse. She did go against everyone when it suited her agenda. When it doesn't she plays the victim card of being bechari who is being sandwiched between two families, two responsibilities and blah blah

Originally posted by: Harish111

These posts are absurd and are pretending that a woman can never be wrong or questioned no matter what she does. That no one can expect anything from a woman just because she is a woman. That questioning anything a woman does instead of always letting her hurt others automatically makes it abuse. That a man can be completely neglected as a spouse and wife can emotionally cheat but the man should keep quiet or he is an abuser and MCP. That a child can be abused and hurt, the man can be abused and hurt but should forever keep quiet or be labeled as an abuser

My post isn't to support Anupamaa here, just pointing out that she has not really grown as a person and is still the same.

A person who acknowledges that she was abused for 26 years wouldn't have gone back there.

She doesn't acknowledge she has been abused. In fact her only problem was that Vanraj had an EMA and never really loved her.

What Anuj is doing by expecting a family with a wife and child is normal, him blaming her for multiple issues is not right but kinda expected.

If she accepted the responsibility of a 7 year old, she should have understood that a child needs undivided attention. When her own children were young, was she running to Kanta and Bhavesh again and again because they needed help? No, because it wasn't right and also because nobody let her.

With CA she kept doing back and forth because she decided "she can do everything", she didn't take a stand that her new family is now her priority in front of the Shahs.

When Anuj questioned her, she said she cannot forget her old family. Fair enough.

But, if she would have said that please don't expect me to be there 100%, I would have still respected her though, okay fine now she is taking a stand. A wrong stand, but still a stand, an opinion.

But what did she do? She said she will never let Anuj complain again. Not because its the right thing to do but because she was scared Anuj will leave her. Obviously that didn't happen, but wasn't she doing the exact same thing as a Shah bahu?

We complained Anuj was a puppy just so that he can keep Anupamaa, now we complain he is MCP just so that he can keep CA, both are extremes, both are wrong.

But we cannot deny that Anupamaa is still a yes woman after 860 episodes and nothing has changed.

Originally posted by: NiharikaMishra

My post isn't to support Anupamaa here, just pointing out that she has not really grown as a person and is still the same.

A person who acknowledges that she was abused for 26 years wouldn't have gone back there.

She doesn't acknowledge she has been abused. In fact her only problem was that Vanraj had an EMA and never really loved her.

What Anuj is doing by expecting a family with a wife and child is normal, him blaming her for multiple issues is not right but kinda expected.

If she accepted the responsibility of a 7 year old, she should have understood that a child needs undivided attention. When her own children were young, was she running to Kanta and Bhavesh again and again because they needed help? No, because it wasn't right and also because nobody let her.

With CA she kept doing back and forth because she decided "she can do everything", she didn't take a stand that her new family is now her priority in front of the Shahs.

When Anuj questioned her, she said she cannot forget her old family. Fair enough.

But, if she would have said that please don't expect me to be there 100%, I would have still respected her though, okay fine now she is taking a stand. A wrong stand, but still a stand, an opinion.

But what did she do? She said she will never let Anuj complain again. Not because its the right thing to do but because she was scared Anuj will leave her. Obviously that didn't happen, but wasn't she doing the exact same thing as a Shah bahu?

We complained Anuj was a puppy just so that he can keep Anupamaa, now we complain he is MCP just so that he can keep CA, both are extremes, both are wrong.

But we cannot deny that Anupamaa is still a yes woman after 860 episodes and nothing has changed.

Nothing will change