Insensitivity portrayal of serious issue - Page 2

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

Well, I may not fully agree to that, anyway, be that as it may.

There are 2 points here right.

1. Societal Acceptance, Reporting the crime

2. Law enforcement

3. Justice delivered

I completely agree, Societal Acceptance of a victim, is much higher in the west.

This will take time but there is increasing awareness around this.

Execution of laws is a problem. If the population is as big as ours, the problem magnifies.

USA and UK, the landmass (area) is many times higher for a population that is many times lower. Furthermore, they have a larger law enforcement (Police, judges) workforce per citizen than India.

One would like to believe that with an airtight Ecosystem where the police is approachable, there is a faster judicial process, there is fear of consequences, crime rate would be lower, isn't it?

Still, the crime rates per capita in these places is higher

Regarding rate of Justice delivered, this is directly linked to the population and hence the workforce and hence the backlog.

So many celebrities from the west have been open about harassment. Oprah Winfrey for instance. Or the MeToo movement. How many have actually been convicted?

It is not easy to prove in court. If this is coupled with money and muscle power, that much harder.

As per data of 2021 in USA 14.8% woman are raped in india 19.8% so fact you are saying india less rape itself is wrong.

1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed, 2.8% attempted)

India’s rape-related crime rate rose 70.7% over the last two decades from 11.6 per 100,000 women and girls in 2001 to 19.8 in 2018

In USA 70% woman will almost goto police and say they are raped in india even 20% will go to police its big. In last 17 years from 2001 to 2018 rape reporting rose 70% because women are feeling more confident to go to police compare to before. But still no is less only its all hushed up in majority cases for fear of society and accused will harass family and attack victim.

Sexual harassment in office in india is same all hushed up at work place no action at all. Have you herad any man go to jail in office for troubling a woman. Its opposite woman has to leave job and run because management will gang up on her. Ex is bollywood all sexual hararsment many heroines dared speak what happened? Did one go to jail no. Forget heroine stop getting job thats all. Full bolyywood will boycott that woman thats all.

If you are saying USA and indian woman are rape are treated same way by society, police and law you are wrong.

USA is no saint in treating woman but yes its one of best country for woman to live in because of the job opportunity, freedom and safety society there provides. USA laws and way of implementation is much superior to any country in world. Not even many europe country are so much better at law implementation as USA

Woman in USA also keep quiet for harassment as they are economically and emotionally dependent on some man. Like anupama was for 25 years. Oprah winfrey or many woman can go file complaint if they wish but they did not as many woman get emotionally attached to abuser or economically dependent on abuser or their parents will not let them do it etc. Anupama was economically and emotionally dependent on abuser vanraj for 25 years.

Imagine for a woman if full family parents sbling all dependent on her single salary to eat pay bills and shes harassed at workplace will she complaint no. Because hes fedding 5 people with that money so they keep quiet. Thats what many heroines or working woman do about hararsment at work place. Because their family dependent on them. Imagine same woman is multi millioanire and harassed at work than whoever harased her will get slapped in office only even if its her boss. Many hollywood heroine confessed they kept quiet for job and food before so imagine indian woman situation at work place.

Regarding crime rate in USA being as high as all over world thats because men have similar thinking mostly all over world. Very few think woman is equal to them you see even in USA. It company in USA is mens club you see with 70 to 80% males. Why are there less woman learning IT no bt they do not give job. Same in india 75% men in IT company. Also IUSA has gun culture that itself leads to many crimes. If you have an automatic weapon in pocket than you get more braveness to do things you would not do empty handed.

Imagine every asian has an automatic gun in bag or pocket like USA guys what would have happened for simple things or aneger they would use guns. Same for USA you are angry on mom scolding you or dad slapping you go hit 30 kids in your school dead thats whats happening. Your boss scolded you take gun kill 20 colleagues. If you fight with wife go kill mall people. Thats USA for you. We must thank rest of world that no one has guns or half world would be gone by now in anger only.

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Sexual harassment in office in india is same all hushed up at work place no action at all. Have you herad any man go to jail in office for troubling a woman. Its opposite woman has to leave job and run because management will gang up on her. Ex is bollywood all sexual hararsment many heroines dared speak what happened? Did one go to jail no. Forget heroine stop getting job thats all. Full bolyywood will boycott that woman thats all.

If you are saying USA and indian woman are rape are treated same way by society, police and law you are wrong.

USA is no saint in treating woman but yes its one of best country for woman to live in because of the job opportunity, freedom and safety society there provides. USA laws and way of implementation is much superior to any country in world. Not even many europe country are so much better at law implementation as USA

Woman in USA also keep quiet for harassment as they are economically and emotionally dependent on some man. Like anupama was for 25 years. Oprah winfrey or many woman can go file complaint if they wish but they did not as many woman get emotionally attached to abuser or economically dependent on abuser or their parents will not let them do it etc. Anupama was economically and emotionally dependent on abuser vanraj for 25 years.

Imagine for a woman if full family parents sbling all dependent on her single salary to eat pay bills and shes harassed at workplace will she complaint no. Because hes fedding 5 people with that money so they keep quiet. Thats what many heroines or working woman do about hararsment at work place. Because their family dependent on them. Imagine same woman is multi millioanire and harassed at work than whoever harased her will get slapped in office only even if its her boss. Many hollywood heroine confessed they kept quiet for job and food before so imagine indian woman situation at work place.

Regarding crime rate in USA being as high as all over world thats because men have similar thinking mostly all over world. Very few think woman is equal to them you see even in USA. It company in USA is mens club you see with 70 to 80% males. Why are there less woman learning IT no bt they do not give job. Same in india 75% men in IT company. Also IUSA has gun culture that itself leads to many crimes. If you have an automatic weapon in pocket than you get more braveness to do things you would not do empty handed.

Imagine every asian has an automatic gun in bag or pocket like USA guys what would have happened for simple things or aneger they would use guns. Same for USA you are angry on mom scolding you or dad slapping you go hit 30 kids in your school dead thats whats happening. Your boss scolded you take gun kill 20 colleagues. If you fight with wife go kill mall people. Thats USA for you. We must thank rest of world that no one has guns or half world would be gone by now in anger only.

Very well said 👏

People still go to US or Canada for higher studies and to immigrate there as life better there in comparison to India.

Originally posted by: NiharikaMishra

I have frankly given up on this show as it is designed to make any and every topic about Anupamaa's greatness.

Real empowerment would have been that a woman like Anupamaa is viewing new things in life as a spectator and a keen learner. But NO, the makers keep showing that as soon as Anupamaa watched the VanYa exposition, she had the ultimate level of knowledge showered on her and now she is a person who is aware of and woke about everything and will give her own kind of solution to everything instead of a logical one.

Therapy is such a MAJOR aspect of women recovering from sexual assault because they are prone to depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts and destructive behavior. I had helped a woman in my neighbourhood who was just having a rape-attempt and still she underwent six months of government approved therapy and any other doctor (even female) could touch or talk to her ONLY after getting approval from the police affiliated doctor, because the victim herself is also evidence and they cannot risk any doctor performing any non-approved activity on her, even giving her fever medicine.

But just one dance with Anupamaa is enough to heal Dimple.

In our case there were so many visits from the police that it was overwhelming for both the woman's family and us neighbours. In Anupamaa, the police have practically disappeared and left Dimple to fend for herself.

And THE GLARING BOTCH-UP of news channel revealing names of people involved in the incident. Anuj could have and should have sued them for this. Yes the victim names were not shown but witness names need as much privacy. And Nimrit left Dimple because the media was talking about the issue too much, but how is it possible unless they are revealing names illegally?? Nobody reveals ID details of people involved in such cases without their consent.

But how would have we seen Anupamaa as a survivor if she was not shown fighting a major risk?

And what can we expect from a show which is too shy to even use ths word rape and is replacing it with molestation.

Why don’t any NGO’s or women support organisations sue them over this ? And the many other wrong portrayals they have done on sensitive topics like DV , adoption etc and all the misinformation they keep spreading .... Just because they are No 1 in TRP chart for over 2 years does not give the makers the right to portray what they want in such a ridiculous manner , in fact it should make them more socially responsible which they clearly are not ...

Really think it’s high time this self righteous PH is given a strong lesson !!

This show is a real snake in the grass in ITV history. 😡Other toxic shows like Ghum , big Boss atleast don’t go around making tall claims on how progressive they are or how they are a mirror to society etc. The PH , certain actors and even writers of the show have an unbearable self righteous and holier-than-thou attitude which is even more irritating....

Are u talking about benaam badahah staring anil Kapoor and Juhi Chawla

I am talking about rani Mukherjee first movie raja ki aayegi baraat when rani Mukherjee ( mala) was r**pe by amjad khan's son character .

In that movie court order culprit to marry Mala . Culprit marry Mala. Culprit try to kill Mala in way way . One day culprit ke chacha put snake on Mala roon .snake bite culprit instead . Mala save her culprit husband .and is Tarah culprit aur Mala ke beech pyar ho gaya

Aise incident se recover hone mein lamba time lagta hai .it may took 10 year or even more. Court bhi lamba chalta hai .but is it possible for cvs to show such thing for longest time kya itna lamba time de paayenge CVS

Serials Bana Rahe hai koi documentary movie nahi

I just wish to see the trp of this show drop to less than 1 so that the makers are forced to stop the show. This track is heights of insensitivity and immaturity.

Stopped watching the show long ago and was only reading updates. Will now stop reading the updates too.

Originally posted by: surabhi01

Aise incident se recover hone mein lamba time lagta hai .it may took 10 year or even more. Court bhi lamba chalta hai .but is it possible for cvs to show such thing for longest time kya itna lamba time de paayenge CVS

Serials Bana Rahe hai koi documentary movie nahi

You are absolutely right. They cannot show 10 years worth of healing, it is impossible. On the other hand, they should NOT show a rape victim singing and dancing soon after the crime either. That is way too unrealiistic and insensitive. This portrayal has just made a laughing stock of real victims.

There is no, absolutely no justification for the pathetic depiction of this track in this show. 👎🏼

Dimpy is Punjabi

May be she do bhangra aur gidda in front of culprit after slapping culprit in police station

Originally posted by: surabhi01

Are u talking about benaam badahah staring anil Kapoor and Juhi Chawla

I am talking about rani Mukherjee first movie raja ki aayegi baraat when rani Mukherjee ( mala) was r**pe by amjad khan's son character .

In that movie court order culprit to marry Mala . Culprit marry Mala. Culprit try to kill Mala in way way . One day culprit ke chacha put snake on Mala roon .snake bite culprit instead . Mala save her culprit husband .and is Tarah culprit aur Mala ke beech pyar ho gaya

I do not know - in interview juhi sad she did movie which she fall in love with her rapist

OK i did not kno raja ki ayegi baaraa t movie story or name too

70s and 80s and 90s movies were horrible in story

i saw a movie of govinda - heroine hates him very much 1 hour shes only fighting hating him than he kisses her forcefully on lips and after that heroine starts loving him, same with amir madhuri dil movie i think

in 90s and 2000s movies every hero would trouble heroine stalk and harass her to make her love him

That was why in 2000s and all men would eve tease on roads in cities standing in road corners

men in bikes would follow school girls and pass comment or try touching them etc - this is big metro city not small town or villages

movies had a huge role in making men behave so.

Otherwise why would 20-25 year old men follow school kids who are like 5th std or 8th std - because bollywood movie of 70s and 80s and 90s and even 2000s showed if hero folow girls for long they will fall in love with hero

i think eve teasing started reducing after 2006 etc but its agian going peak in last 5 years or so because again male machoism making come back in movies

Look at movies kabir singh KGF pushpa all super hit and hero kidnap or abuse heroine - its back to 90s and 2000s again

So serial like anupama should have shown this rape issue bit more sensitively

Now watching this serial men or boys will think gang rape victims will dance 3rd day after rape and be fine - its not that much big pain or crime like how they are potraying in anupama

That is problematic and that too writer i heard is female not male

Problem is not movie or serial being so bad but watching these movies and serials young boys and girls will form opinion and again next gen will have wrong ideas about love and how to treat women

These movies and serial do not know or understan what big impact it makes on below 30 year old men or womans mind

It can even lead to eve teasing, harassing, beating girl friends or wife or girls who do not agree with boys like shown in recent cases

Youngsters are easilly impressionable and think whatever crime or harassment hero does is ok, if they too do that

Why do anupama writers or any movie writer do not understand all this?

Why cannot mature and society concious human not write movies and serials than some half literate uneducated ppl who do not understand what imapct each scene and story has on youngsters?

I just came to kknow women write anupama, i mean i cannot believe how gang rape is being potrayed by women. Atleast women should have some concious or sensitivity in life as they are also girls. Not to say men are insensitive but woman can understand fear of harassment rape abuse more as from childhood they face some form of it all over world

Anupama has great concept if written and excecuted properly but its failing from beginning of year

Yes it is benaam badahah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benaam_Badsha