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Posted: 17 years ago
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Atina, since you have given the idea that you wish the stars would read this, then maybe you could start the ball rolling by getting Preethi and Deepak to read this? Maybe they would give their view so that we can get a better understanding.

Similarly Bon/Jagdu can contact SSiva and ask them to read their view.

We need to get the message across to the producers/directors and to the actors/actresses as well. What a better way, then these actors/actresses to do it. Of course they need to use their diplomacy as well. 😊
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Posted: 17 years ago
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wow!! great topic!! few days ago, i was thinking about kaveri (arase) and how she would react if she was to read our comments - it would definetly hurt her!! i think some sort of a rule should be placed to aviod 'hurting' nicknames or it should be totally abolished!!

mb - monkey boy - is one of the most hurtful nickname - even, i, in all of my post have used this nick - but never thought abt how i would feel if i were to be kanan (mb)!!

as earlier mentioned, i also think that they should just learn to live with these kind of things, because if they don't want to get negative feedback then they should not go into the serial industry in the first place. i think actors are used by directors as playing toys - they can do whatever they want with them and the actors can't say anything back!! i think actors talk should talk out.. if the director doesn't listen then back your bags. ofcourse, if everyone start doing this atleast the directors may start listening to actors!!

parents of young actors should take sometime investigate the role their daughter/son is playing, if it was my parents then they would definetly stop me from playing such kind of role.. i would like to remind that money is nothing - there are things which are more important than money!!

final note - thanks bon for opening this thread.

suggestion - this website is mainly for serial and i think the issue which is raised here is very important in terms of actors and us, the audience. so i think this topic should be made as an annuncement topic to get all members views!!

thamizhan

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Posted: 17 years ago
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As I keep emphasising, the issue of women being portrayed as second class human beings and women being exploited in films/serials is a serious one. But it is a completely different issue, so please do not flog it here.

The point I have been trying to make is that in this day and age, when contact between fan and actor has been revolutionised by the internet, we need to be a bit less judgmental and more sensitive to the feelings of those whom we criticise. And, I think both Thamizhan and Caryn do agree with me. I am not saying we should censor all fair comment, but let us be responsible in making comments. Actors are human beings, often with real and serious problems.

In the news story that I posted, there was mention of an actor named Charukesh. We will never know the real reason behind his suicide though a director has made some allegations under the cover of anonymity. I have since found out from a well-connected relative that the suicidee's young wife has been trying to settle the debts her husband left behind while also looking after a seriously ill mother and a young child. She was making a living as a serial actress and television host prior to the death of her husband and now she is continuing in the only trade she knows, viz, acting. Can you imagine how the already traumatised woman would feel if readers were to repeatedly criticise her appearance or her acting, or, worse, call her names?

This is just one example. The problems that actors and actresses undergo may have little to do with the roles they play. So, all I am asking for is some responsibility in the way we critique serials and the actors who appear in them. (Of course, I will be the first to admit that I myself have often unthinkingly made uncharitable comments.)

On the separate issue of whether or not actors/actreses should vote with their feet on moral grounds if they are asked to play unwholesome roles in unwholesome serials, let me draw an analogy. Let's assume you were working for an MNC and they were exploiting you by making you do overtime work with no pay and hardly any promotion prospects. Naturally you would quit the company. But let's say you were paid handsomely for the job you were doing. But one fine day you find out that your employers are, say, exploiting child labour in Ghana. Would you give up a cushy job on a matter of principle? Or would you try to change things quietly from within? Or perhaps would you just shut a blind eye and pray that things would change? Boycotts would never hurt film and serial producers in a country of 1 billion Indians!

Producers are likely to say that they are reflecting society as it is, warts and all, and not trying to change society. And, they have a point. How many people will continue watching serials or movies if all they get to see and hear is a whole load of moralising. As Caryn pointed out, many of the negative values projected in movies are in fact deeply ingrained in society and society cannot be changed overnight. Nor can we expect the entertainment industry alone to change society. We need to go out and move things ourselves.

That said, there are also serials, such as Anandham, which, all said and done, do portray women in a positive light. Where men behave in a chauvinistic manner (as Madhan is currently), their behaviour is clearly portrayed in a negative manner.

Let me end by returning to my main point, which is that actors need to be treated with due respect -- something which has little to do with the themes projected in serials.

Apologies if I have offended anyone.

Edited by Bonheur - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Thanks Bon for opening this thread. I do agree that we should be prudent enought to pass on the judgement. We can actually start off with Anandam thread itself...

1.why not use the characters name while talking about the role.
2. Use their real names when we have comments about the actor/actress itself.
3. This way we can be our fiery self when talking about the characters.
4. But we should be a bit more courteous when talking personally about the actor/actress.
5. Child artistes should never be harped upon...no contest on this point.
6. ALso the actor/actresses should take our criticism constructively....personally i have so many negative judgement against the way some stars dress....one for example Devipriya in one of those afternoon serials. These are things that have to be brought to their attention....
7. Having interacted with a couple of TV stars personally, i feel most of them have the maturity to take things in the right spirit...but there are always exceptions....but that shouldnt stop us from airing our comments.
8. But what hurts is ...none of these directors come online and interact with us. By far i see that there are atleast a handful of characters in every serial that irritate us and raise our BP....the guy who should get all the lashing for that kind of portrayal is the director....and its only fair that we ask these directors to interact with us.

On another note, I would like to conclude by saying that in the IT field we do these Quality assurance checks and the amount of money paid for QA is so huge....almost all my project plans allot close to 1/2 of the time and money to QA. Why cant we have some kind of check on these directors and do a QA before they come to our eyes...eliminate women bashing, MCPS and women villanism and all the negative crap from these serials.....

Coming back to Bon's main point....yes the actors should be given the due respect as much we all respect each other here.

Take care all!

Madhu
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Posted: 17 years ago
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A good summary Mahdu. 👏 👏 👏
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Nice summing up, Madhu. There is nothing
personal here. Guess, we have to stand up
for Police personnel, Judges, Doctors and
other professionals here, as well. The way
they are portrayed in serials demeans them no end!!
Not to talk of a common woman and a child!!!
where is the end??? In the name of fiction and
entertainment, this industry gets to ridicule every one
but when it comes to commenting on their characters
and themes/stories raise a hue and cry??? beats me!!!!
Edited by rojapoooo - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Well said, Madhu. Roja's comment made me think of one of the serials that comes on during the day - Chellamadi nee enakku - in which a woman who is an actress is pretending to be a doctor in a psychiatric hospital. How can she get away with pretending to be a doctor when she does not even know how to give an injection, and has to call a nurse to do so? Does she not have to go on rounds and see patients? How can she deal with patients, and don't the nurses note these things? How can she be hired in the first place without her references being checked? This makes me really scared of doctors in India. I think the directors are making a mockery of the medical profession.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Since many of the readers of this thread are still writing posts criticising themes and other issues, I have a suggestion. Perhaps Roja can help me out here. IF may have become a widely-read forum but I am still not sure how much impact we have. Recently, I signed a petition that some of you also did -- initiated by some folks in the US -- criticising the negative portrayal of women, among other things, but I am not sure who the petition was sent to and whether it is likely to have any traction.

What I'd suggest instead is that we identify the right organisations in Chennai to which such petitions could be sent.I understand there is a Chinnathira Nadigar Sangam (TV Artistes Union), for example. That may be one of the organisations we may want to target if we want better treatment for child artistes and pregnant artistes, for instance.

One matter that Roja raised recently was that of how pregnant actresses were being exploited in serials.I am glad that chinna thirai actually allows pregnant women to continue working, as was the case with the heroine in Kasthuri and Rohini in Anandham. (Whether the Kasthuri heroine was forced to do hard tasks during her pregnancy is another matter and of course a serious one.) In Singapore, pregnant actresses are usually sidelined, which means they get no income throughout the duration of their pregnancy.

Several of you were also concerned about how child artistes were being used in serials. Perhaps someone could check whether the unions have worked out minimum wages and maximum numbers of working hours for child artistes. If not, these could be some issues that IF readers could champion by directly taking them up with the unions or through the mainstream media.

Edited by Bonheur - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Bon, I was only suggesting that we should
defend every profession - if actors are hurt
and mentally disturbed by our comments on their
characters, other professionals have more reason
to feel depressed - the demeaning way of portrayal
in the name of drama is also unacceptable!!!

I watched a program in Makkal TV, a few days ago. It
was about these serials bringing in violence and all
other negative vibes in to the drawing room - I was
shocked to realize that there is no censorship for the
TV programs - any of them!!! If movies with such
themes need to go through fine combing and cuts,
the same should apply for these as well!!! Looks like
there is no guideline for this!!! The only solace is that
this status is being reviewed and a common censorship
norms are likely to be imposed - soon. Let us hope
that the authorities wake up before things get too much
out of hand and we end up having Abiramis, Adithyas,
Bhaskars, Minister uncles and the rest of the baddies
roaming around the streets in real life!!!
Edited by rojapoooo - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
#20
A very gud n useful thread started by bon 👏
Gud suggestions made by madhu. 😛

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