3/5/2012 Episode Discussion - Page 3

The AB drama is pretty okay with these kind of real-life nut-cases, only bad thing is the pacing of the story. Everything is rushed and seems like artificial insertion rather than natural growth. But these sudden character changes are pretty possible in extreme hurt cases of Envy and Low self-esteem.

Babloo:
Well, he is feeling all spiteful towards Krishna just because he feels she slighted him before Pinto by releasing Ganga at his brother's behest and not his. In the process he has become hypocritical to his brother Pinto and us viewers.

Hypocrisy is trait of character weakness. You feel something and yet you act otherwise..When the going was good, he was able to acknowledge to his brother that he could not leave the house like him. I doubt in present condition he would have acked that. He would have rather presented his sticking to parent's house as an exalted decision of his.

Ganga:
A mother can become possessive and lose mind when she sees another woman coming close to her son, especially a woman who is disapproved by her husband and which means there's gonna be a rift between son and father causing a break up of the house. Ganga is the last woman who wants this to happen. She can swallow all her self esteem, pride and intelligence just to keep the house together. Her problem is she cannot go against her husband. So she is just aping her husband and trying to exercise her power over her son. She aped him so much as to select the same girl for her son's marriage. She knows Tuntun would not be disapproving the match. In the process she looks devilish, but thing is what she doesn't see is after this there is an abyss for her. She is going to lose. She can only shout this much...but her comfort will be..she tried her best. There will be a period of hurt between the mother and son...but soon it will be patched up.

The mother's turning devils temporarily is a most common drama. I mean I called my mother rakshas (of course not on her face) when she and I had our mat-bhed. 😉 The bitterness is there for sometime.. So the same happened with my sibs and friends. Once the mother sees that the child actually stood up to what they were asserting, their heart melts down and they are just looking for ways to be back together again. Actually this trait disgusted me so much but later when I saw the melt-down phase totally devoid of any ego, it was utterly incredible to me. Gradually the inexplicablenss dawned upon me and then I understood what motherhood actually is. I think one has to go through it to understand it. After this pretty much the sides change. Children become parents and parents become children although semblance of same parent-child status quo has to be maintained. The mother always wants her children to be safe, protected and be successful. She becomes a devil when she sees anything disharmonious, but later when the new-age shows her that they won, inwardly they are happy.

That's another reason, why I don't find that much fault with Saraswati. All she needs is communication which Krishna completely fails to keep. Today the way Saraswati said "hamaare Bhaag me paka hua khaana kahaan likha hua hai, hum ko to khud hi karna padega", it reminded me of my mother and my grandmother. These women just refuse to take some help that we can easily give which is logical to us, but they exert their authority and independence by negating our abilities. All we need to do is live with that. Because it is not easy. My mom faced the same from her mother and yet her genetics make her do the same with us. Only when communication is proper does my mother completely relax and lets us do what we want. Key is the umbilical cord I guess. May be it should never be cut to have these kind of dramas. 😉

quote-Would I therefore sympathize with Pinto and Krishna today at the pooja being left incomplete twice? No. Would I think as ominous? No. Pinto did not come across as a fervent religious follower of God, or a person who understands what FAITH is about. If this was not Afsar Bitiya a show, I would have been saddened at this person who though mired in doubts and wants to reinforce hope within him, by approaching God's abode, yet lets his mind get strayed by noise and disturbance outside'

Shri To say that I love this paragraph is actually an understatement u just perfectly described Pintu he always has good intention but somehow he lets outside interferences to change his goal. What was the need to answer his phone when he was praying I just think it was disrespectful 4 him or any1 else to do this, it really comes to what a person thinks is important phone call or your prayer to god. Unfortunately I have to say that a lot of ppl do exactly what Pintu did yesterday I see a lot of ppl young and old when they at a prayer or the temple busy playing with their phone and not concentrating on the prayer. It shows how a lot of us have just lost our connection and don't value god as we should do.

When I read your thoughts on Pintu religious feelings everything just fell into place 4 me I think I didn't notice the innocence of his interaction with god I should have realized that just like everything his relationship with god would be different and innocent from others as well. All I saw was a person going to a temple and standing outside of it and not going in and wondered why he did that coz he didn't seem to care what ppl think ab him so why not just go in and pay your respects and then he seemed to not have a problem with his beliefs 4 the prayer and then I saw him at the temple looking around at every1 and wondered WTH is going on now. But now that I look at it the way u do totally agree his relationship with god is very innocent and almost childlike I like that its very enduring and I now realize that it was more natural 4 him to want to do the ritual with krishna and it's not him acting out of character.

Originally posted by: moniluvskinshuk

I loved today's Episode . Today We saw Pintu's Different roles in one Single episode .

Pintu as a LOVER

A lover who wanted 2 pray frm God for his and his love Krishna . Wanted 2 pray tht They shld always be 2gther . Then comes Another lover who was upset frm his mom's Ridiculous Demand of marrying Pinky but feels good after talking with his love krishna .

PIntu as a Brother

A Brother ..A Young Brother who just like any younger bro goes 2 his Elder bro for sharing his problem and dilleemea of choosing b/w his mom and his love But..In return He gets a RIDICULOUS LECTURE OF SO CALLED SACRIFICE from none other then Babloo...The great . Pintu gets all disheartened , disappointed n mostly Shocked by his brother .couldn't beleive that he isthe Same elder Bro who made him realize his love for krishna and forced him 2 tell his feelings 2 krishna wout any delay . he was completely shocked and No Wonder he leaves the place wout saying a single word 2 his brother .

Pintu as a son of his Father

Wowww This Role was an AWOSOME highlight of the Episode .They Son who never ever used 2 even see in his father's eyes , used 2 gets shaken terribly just by hearing his Father's loud voice ...the same Son today pulls his father in side and tells him that till now his father instigated him so much and his is not fool who didn't understood it ..he was silent becozz of his mother . Woww the Cool aggression was something 2 die for . KILLING 😍

Pintu as a Son of his Mother

It is always said that A mother can either make his child's life or can ruin her child's life . The way she will import valus in a child ..the kid will grew up like that . PARVARISH bahut zaroori hoti hai . I wonder Despite of having such a Cruel parents how can they have such good hearted two children . But Anyways !! Pintu today again showed that what a Diamond son Ganga and TTS got in form of Pintu . The way he 1st clears everything by saying that He loves Krishna and will marry her only was truly AMAZING . he didn't disrespected his mother but Keeping her respect in his eyes He told his decision 2 his mother .
Wowww What a great Son !!

Pintu as a Quick thinker

Pintu again proved today that he have the most brilliant mind when it comes 2 use it , And why he is called Quick thinker .He didn't came up with any plan . But when Ganga In last scene was still adamant on her fasting thing ..Pintu uses his own clever mind and he promises Ganga that Choti bahu will not come in this house wout her aashirwaad . Wowww This was one more proof of his Amazing presence of mind . 👍🏼

So these all were roles of Pintu which which not only he played but successfully played . KEEP IT UP PINTU SINGH !!

i just loved what u wrote i generally love everything u write but this has got to be your best post i just loved your writing. i have a confession to make whenever i come online i read all your posts 1st and if u made a comment anyway i actually start reading your comments 1st and than every1 elses coz i get the feeling epecially when u write ab prishna/pintu that every word is laced with love( i dnt know if that made any sense but u get the meaning). back to your comments really loved the parts like highlighted my fav scene of the whole episode was defintely tt and pintu and u just described that scene perfectly it was just cool aggression. Shri commented on how she pitied tt on losing pintu respect and i agree with her. the respect that commanded was just mindblowing and to now do what he just did even more mindblowing.

i loved his presene of mind in handling ganga but am i the only 1 who feels like he should be doing everything above board and not in this way. last weeks discssion on his shady behaviour benefitting krishna at times and than not at times this is the same sort of behaviour. i wish that he just marries krishna no games, no tricks like his dad and just dnt get married to her and bring her like a present to his family. i want them to get married coz they love each another not coz of all these dumb ass ppl. bt will wait to see how it happens and hopefully it isnt a disappointment.

Originally posted by: shridevigaddam

Editing/screenplay issues today.

1) What was the purpose of Krishna's visit to home from the temple in the morning ? If she had to go to office, she could have called Mangal from the temple itself?

If the purpose was for her to listen to her mom fixing her marriage, then...it was too fast for me to understand...

2) Likewise Pinto has fight with mom and again he is back on the road !

If the purpose of 1 and 2 was the meeting scene between the two later...it was not very convincing. It was like implanting...

3) Krishna returns from office at 6:00 PM. Wants to prepare food for mom. Mom does not allow it. Okay. What must have been the time 6:15 to 6:20 PM ?... okay. It was a sensitive moment at the house. How could she leave the house at that evening time while her mother is cooking with rest of family starving, to make a visit to the temple again. Guys tell me what excuse she must have given to Saraswati and other family members ?

Guys ! what does all this tell about Krishna ! She is great walker and loves being outside most of the time. Ghar mein tik ke nahin baith sakti. And may be that's why her mother doesn't ask much where she goes ..

Whatever!!!! the temple scene second time, needed to be shot in DARK and LOW light, because they were praying in DUSK time.

Shri i also wondered what on earth i was watching how did she leave home just like that and u right ab the time it should have been dark when it was shown. when i watched wednesdays episode i thought what they would have shown on thursday was Ganga seeing them and imagines herself screaming at them and than gets the idea to call him and tell him she was sick and thats how he left- dnt know why i expected this when i knwo she got no brains. but in any case even if it wasnt a dream whats was the need firstly 4 krishna to ran of like that that old woman would have left sooner or later and where did she wait 4 her driver to pick her up they could have gotten pintu to come after her. and what was the need 4 her to go home they should just have had the scene after she came from work. pintu on the road was more understandable what in the world was he supposed to do in that suffocating house with those moronic ppl. 4 the 1st time i have to say that i thought probably wednesday and thursday episode was filler episodes until the big bash today. really disappinted coz whilst watching i never ever felt that way even though others here did coz a filler episode 4 me is 1 which has no bearing to the storyline and in the past everything was a build up but this week have to say it wasnt done like be4.

U guys r all crazy, LOL I love each and every one of the posts today. There is nothing else to say u guys cover it all. By the way, I have a feeling that pintu is playing with words to his mom to get her to agree to his marriage with krishna.
Reason for saying this was the last scene and the way he was watching her, he has something up his sleeve I hope.
If pinto get married to pinky in this serial I swear I will stop watching it. NO JOKE

Sandia,

Agree with this.
"coming to the ritual i don't feel like he went there to ask god for a blessings but more so that Pintu if he does have this relationship with god feeling the need for just the 2 of them to do something together infront of god as 1. also i do think he is still feeling guilty 4 his behaviour and so wanted to do this but also he might have been worried ab what had ahppened at her office."

Yes, when suddenly his mom and brother act berserk, he does get frightened a little and completely realizes that what Saraswati was saying in his context was true. So he feels all the more need to do something for either of them.

And while discussing the nitty gritties with you, the other thing I realized why Pinto loves and cares for Krishna is that although she can easily supercede him being demanding about the relationship considering her growing social status, she never actually claims anything from him, never takes advantage of him. Where he is ready to sacrifice himself for his family members and they take advantage of him trampling upon his personal feelings, in Krishna's case Pinto's sacrifices are all meaningless and instead the help starts becoming a burden to her and later to him as well for carrying his unnecessary weight around; and yet Krishna bears it uncomplainingly. He does realize that he needs to do something about himself, but he feels helpless without her. And inspite of this state of his dependency on her, Krishna keeps herself unobstrusive to his thoughts. This thrust on independence is what makes him feel a new Pinto which he is not able to fully grasp.

This trait of Krishna made me think she might be a Libran 😆

Here is today's thread:

www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2962142