Fatmagul Thread # 3 - Page 72

Originally posted by: Rads_R

To hate someone is easy but to forgive someone requires a lot of courage. As Fatmagul said, "forgiveness is to attain one's own inner peace". Kerim has yet to acknowledge this truth. He needs to understand that what he refuses his father, he is expecting the shame from Fatmagul. By his unforgiving attitude towards his father, he is planting doubts in Fatmagul's mind. He says, "to forgive his father would be deceiving oneself". He should remember that Fatmagul said the same to him a few days back, but now she is giving him a chance. Its really sad to watch Fatmagul's case losing its power. Wish Kerim had told about this incident before

Originally posted by: poweritz

Fatmagul's advice to Kerim was the high point of this episode. Every word that she told Kerim was flowing out of her ongoing struggle to recovery. How true she is about us often misjudging people because of false leading evidences (referring to Kerim) and expecting better from people who have fallen (referring to Mustafa)... and how forgiving others is all about moving on from inner turmoil. Yet, Kerim was fuming, but only Fatmagul's goodwill could have fed him timely advice.

Kerim's own past is a scary episode, and throughout the series he's going through crushing moments except for Fatmagul's recent outings with him. Perhaps his difficult past makes him risk-friendly, since he knows pain and its prolonged darkness. Fatmagul and Meryem are his lights at the end of the proverbial tunnel.

@poweritz @rads_r @eriene @mitali25 - Share your view reg this. What Fatmagul said to Kerim was something her own painful traumatic struggle post that horrific incident had taught her, esp with respect to Kerim. Feel proud of her for having the strength of character and maturity to make these cathartic realisations and coming this far in such a short period of time post such a huge life shattering, life altering trauma. No doubt it's Kerim's own determined effort and patient love and care that made her push her apprehensions and reservations abt him aside and give him a chance which in turn helped her make a grt deal of progress in her own healing and recovering process. Like Kerim is proving to be the light of her life, she too is being the same for him by trying to help him thru her own learnings, as painful as they might have been, as best as she can. What she said to him may not have completely sunk in yet, but it seemed to have registered enough with him to be able to calm him down and have a normal conversation with Meriyam

Truth is, Kerim will never be able to be truly happy and at peace unless he deals with and exorcises the demons related to his past and his parents. He is too disillusioned and angry with his father at the moment (and rightly so) to think pragmatically and consider digging into the reasons why he had disappeared from his life. It's up to Fatmagul and Meriyam, the two women who matter the most to him and who care for him the most too, to show him the right path/help him deal with his past to be able to move on to a brigter, more happier, more peaceful tomorrow, free of the suffocating, life sucking, painful baggage of the past

Originally posted by: poweritz

Kaderbhai was terribly upset at learning things from other sources than Kerim. Most of us thought that it was all covered in initial reports. Only to find out otherwise today. Fatmagul's hopes on winning the case are diminishing and relapsing into trauma mode, Kerim could have reported better really.

True. Fatmagul's case had been getting weaker by the day with Risat-Munir combo buying testimonies left, right and centre and this revelation regarding Kerim dealt another major, seemingly almost fatal blow to it. Mustafa had already testified against them, Asu too was going to give her testimony against her, Munir had roped in Sahil to make MQ not testify in her favour, doctors and hospital staff had already turned hostile, Vural too had given his testimony against them and his parents and household staff were going to support it. Meltam was not prepared to come fwd openly to testify in her favor Fatmagul. That left only Meriyam and Kerim's favourable testimonies based on which alone case cld not be won. On top of that, this miss on Kerim's part to share the incident of his getting caught along with those three and esp his saying in his testimony that he had gone to be with his friend Vural that day as he was not sounding well or sthing to that effect cld blow a huge hole in their defence/credibility of their reasons for filing a case against them... the reason why Kaderbhai was so upset with Kerim (in the original he was much more harsher in his words to Kerim than shown in the dubbed version, if I remember correctly from the footage I had seen)

But still all is not lost. Given the dashing duo's i.e Kaderbhai and Omer's credentials and track record, hopefully they will manage to come up with something to again turn things around in their favor :)).

Whoa! Never expected a sudden barrage of varied and wonderful analyses flowing out from the comforts of Saturday midnight! Credit to the makers for keeping everyone engaged and excited about Fatmagul, and that's extraordinarily successful... (My episode review seems to be buried under the avalanche of colourful opinions and analyses...)

@Eirene... You are more than hundred percent true when you say that Kerim and Fatmagul are people cut from the same cloth, who can give to each other a lot! Every shred of your analysis of Meryem-Fg reading the letter, about comparing the apologies of Kerim and that of Fatmagul, and finally as to how Fatmagul's experience can remedy both her's and Kerim's pain, is very beautiful to read! Very logically constructed reasoning, I'm in awe of your ability to express things in such brilliant detail!

@blyton... The readers will love you to be more than a silent reader, for you depict very reasonably the insecurities of Asu, the love for E&S grinding it out at the prison and the issues haunting Meryem. Meryem's shared a lot of Fatmagul's emotional turmoil, indeed the title needs her name too! We'll love to read more of your opinion!

@Mitali25... Loved your comparison of two different cries of apologies involving Kerim- one where is he asking for apology and one where apology is expressed to him. And Fatmagul's experience and outlook should give him the necessary mindset to ease things out, both for himself and his estranged father. I'm delighted to see your thoughts joining the bandwagon of opinions expressed here. Readers will welcome more of your thoughts.

@nupuur... Very aptly captured. Yes, Fatmagul's managed to put behind her the horrific incident and Kerim's been a helping hand. With the emotional capital she enjoys with Kerim, she can relieve him of anxiety and see things objectively, heeding to the measured advice of ebe nine Meryem. Your thoughts are very welcome to us readers. Keep up the writing efforts!

@Pankhh... I am with your thoughts. Yes, Kaderbhai will have to outthink Munir to regain the case momentum in Fatmagul's favour. I also felt Kerim very unsettled when Kaderbhai asked him of explanations, and quite immaturely Kerim walks out to coax Fatmagul when the lawyer is still explaining things gravely. With Muqaddas never to be trusted, it leaves on the trio of Kerim, Fatmagul and Meryem to testify their case. Also, curious to watch how Rehmi will be questioned in the court, if at all... Your responses will add to the burgeoning list of opinions, and that's very nice to see. More thoughts shared will help people connect strongly on this beautiful thread.