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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: -Phantom-

Okay, finally caught up with the latest episode. Here's my take:

First of all, what a totally awesome and thrilling episode! ๐Ÿ‘

This episode belonged mainly to Afzal's sister, Arifa. But all in all, there were two very crucial confrontation scenes in this episode. First between Farah and Afzal, and the second between Arifa and Farah.

Arifa has finally given in to her curiosity and read some letters from Afzal's closet. And to her shock saw that they were all signed, "Tumhari Farah." Now that she knows who she is, and after what she has done to Afzal and his family, Arifa has become much more understanding to her brother. Afzal however is confused ๐Ÿ˜†

Arifa: Datt kar khao. Aur kha kar dikhao ke jisay tumhari parwah nahi, tumhein bhi uski parwah nahi. Gham ko sambhaal kar rakho. Us se daro mat.

Afzal: Kaisi baatein kar rahi ho tum? ๐Ÿ˜•๐Ÿ˜†

She implores him to not show his pain as it will be taken as a sign of his weakness. And while Afzal can't promise that he won't cry when in pain, he does promise her that he wont let anyone know it. And then Arifa confides in her mother about Farah's letters too.


I dunno why but I loved this interaction especially Afzal's dialogue when he says he can't promise because 'Ghum se tarap jaon tou kabhi kabhi ro bhi laita hoon.' ๐Ÿ’” And the way us ki Ammi tarap jaati hain on hearing this is just ๐Ÿ‘


While this episode focused mainly on Arifa, it also showcased Lubna's predicament. She is now trying hard to maintain the delicate balance between her sister Farah and her friend Arifa. While on one hand we see her telling Farah to be more understanding of the unenviable condition of Arifa, on the other she is also forced to stand up to Arifa in defense of her sister.


Very true. No matter how close Lubna is to Arfa, it is only natural that she defends her sibling in front of her instinctively. We all do ๐Ÿ˜†


The first scene in this episode that makes you sit straight is when Afzal comes in front of Farah's car while running after Allah Diyo. Convinced that she is in the right and emboldened by her sister's confirmation that that is the case, Farah is flying on a high horse and therefore, seeing Afzal in front of her like that, steps out to let him have it.





And it's clear Afzal wants to hear it all. He knows it's the last push he wants. So when Allah Diyo says, "Chalo Afzal," he replies, "Nahi, ruko," and stays to hear more.


Ooh that's an explanation ๐Ÿ˜ƒ I was wondering why Afzal didn't get away from there when Allah Diyo suggested it ๐Ÿ˜•


But then, true to her character, the first thing Farah asks Lubna when they get home is, "Suno, meinay theek kiya na?" Lubna, as always, tells her she did right. But this time she messed up the timing. "Kehnay ko tumnay theek kiya, lekin buhat jaldi kiya, Farah." She also knows that even though Afzal might be in the wrong, he isn't as bad, and Farah messed up too. "Jo chup kharay gaaliyan sun letay hain na, woh badnaam nahi kartay. Badnaam to tumnay kiya hai usay."


I liked this line. Lubna aisi hi baato ki waja se achi lagti hai ๐Ÿ˜† And when she tells her Ammi k "Bechara tou bhi hai. Likin us ki bechaargi mehsos hoti hai, samaj nahi aati." โค๏ธ And also when she says, "Zehen maanta hai kay wo acha nahi hai, dil nahi maanta." ๐Ÿ˜ณ


Afzal next finds himself at Sajid's house again. Afzal has gotten the last push he needed. He knows he can't stay in Hyderabad anymore. His life won't change there, and there are too many painful memories. But there is only one thing still holding him back. And he confides about this to Sajid.

Afzal: "Hyderabad se mera dana pani uth gaya hai yaar. Lekin meri maa mujhe yahan se janay nahi de rahi."
Sajid: "Jaogay kahan?"
Afzal: "Karachi."
Sajid: "Kis ke paas?"
Afzal: "Karachi waalon ke paas."




^^ THESE LINES โค๏ธ


We see Afzal's mother and Arifa discussing the situation. Her mother blames it on Farah being a rich and spoiled girl who uses guys like Afzal for their fun, while Arifa has a hard time believing it. In her interactions with Farah, she had found her as a nice, friendly, loving sort. And somehow doesn't see her doing what she did. But it's Lubna's phone call and the news that Farah had yelled at Afzal on the street that day that blows her fuse. Especially armed with the knowledge that Farah is the one who writes Afzal letters, she sees this as the ultimate straw.

"Farah se kehna darr ke rahay. Mein uska muun tor doongi. Agar meray bhai ne chup chaap us beizzati ko seh lia hai to Farah se kehna is beizzati ka jawab milega usay. Usee sarak, usee gali mein baat karungi mein us se! Subah woh waheen khara hoga. Usay kehna rokay gaari, niklay bahar. Khuda ki kasam, mein usay waheen zameen mein na gaar doon to Moulvi Subhanallah ki beti nahi!"

Being the protective sister she is, she not only yells at Lubna, to the latter's utter shock, but goes to their home to let Farah have a piece of her mind too.

Arfa surprised me in this scene ๐Ÿ˜ƒ You know she's protective of her brother but the way she yells at Lubna was a treat to watch ๐Ÿ˜† At least someone yelled at her, even if indirectly ๐Ÿ˜†


Afzal is next seen sitting with his gambling friend. He tells him he wants him to arrange a match.



He tells him he has not changed after all. "Kya hai ke eik baray juway mein buri haar hui hai meri. Dil, dimagh, jaib mein eik phooti kori nahi hai. Sab kuch haar gaya hun yaar."

He wants to play the match for 1 lac rupees. And he tells him he didn't have the money. But he is not scared. After losing the gamble for love, he is not scared of the gamble for money. In fact, he is pretty convinced he'll win. This attitude will become a regular part of his life. ๐Ÿ‘

"Agar haar gaya to?"
"Abay ja. Woh to koi aur hai jis ke samnay haar gaya hun. Wahan jeetnay ke liye khela hi nahi."(He makes me fall in love โค๏ธ ๐Ÿ˜ƒ)

While at her home, Farah is jumping around in anger after hearing of Lubna's conversation with Arifa. But seeing Arifa herself at her home completely surprises her. While this scene has to be seen to be fully enjoyed, the gist is that after telling her exactly what she thinks of her, Arifa takes out 4 of the letters she had brought along with her, and throws them at her before turning around and leaving, leaving Farah in complete shock.




Lovely post once again โค๏ธ
Edited by SmileyStar - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: nehaguptaa

I know that calling her villain is too harsh but I called her selfish only not because of afzal but also in mehtaab case
OK u want to say think ur self in Farah place so I give u my view to being in Farah place...
Agar me Farah hoti to kabhi mehtaab k lye haan nhe karti aur agar kardeti to parents ki respect k lye shaadi bhi karleti because mehtaab me koi major fault nhe tha..
Farah ne apne parents k sath game khela jb afzal ka btaya tha uske Abba k bp shot up kargaya agar me hoti to foran such btadeti but usne fiqar nhe KI uski MAA dinning table pe ro rahi thi usko tars nhe aya in fact jb afzal uski MAA ko speechless karaha tha to khush horahi thi jb yeh nhe socha k iski koi class nhe h k meri MAA KI insult Kare ...
Now in afzal case ...
Afzal ko disliked karne KI koi waja nhe thi uske pass afzal ne humesha usko respect di aur WO humesha servent KI tarha treat karti rahi paiso ka roup dikhati rahi usne kabhi paise nhe mange humesha help karta raha koi aisa kam nhe kia k hafrat KI jae agar parents ko le aya tha to pyar se mana kardeti insult karne ki kia zarorat thi wo bhi molvi sahab KI uske father kitni respect karte h unki aur insult karne k bad bahar dekh kar kia problem thi usey as arfah said uske baap ka muhalla nhe tha kyun insult KI dobara
Like na karna aur zalil karna alag baat h yeh aik selfish insaan KI nishaani h mehtaab ne suicide Kari jbhi us pe tars nhe aya ye aik heartless insaan hi karsakta h

Agar me Farah hoti to afzal k purposal ko accept nhe karti magar yeh SB kabhi nhe karti har cheez ka tareeka hota h jissey insaan KI parwarish aur character ka pata lagta h aur jitna Farah ka pata laga h WO selfish mannerless h


Okay maybe I said it wrong ๐Ÿ˜† What I wanted to say is that what she did with Afzal wasn't surprising considering her nature ๐Ÿ˜ณ OBVIOUSLY if we were in her scenario, we wouldn't have done that because we are normal girls who take normal routes towards any problem that comes our way but Farah isn't like that. She makes everything more complicated and ooper se she has a flair for dramatics ๐Ÿ˜•

And Afzal ko reject karnay ki waja tou thee yaar us kay pass. The biggest one being that Afzal NEVER told her that he was in love with her. The second one is the status difference. The girl who is known for throwing money at people will never agree to marrying someone who earns merely 10 thousand a month ๐Ÿ˜• And last but not the least, when he comes with the proposal she thinks that he is trying to trap her into marrying him ๐Ÿ˜•
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: -Phantom-

So Farah claims she is NOT the girl who wrote him those letters, and everyone believes her. This belief only gets stronger when Afzal shows up at his house while Farah and Lubna are still there, and Afzal confirms to his mother that she is not that girl. And then gets yet another slap ๐Ÿ˜† ... this time in front of everyone there. Last one if I remember correctly..

Afzal: Yeh woh nahi hai Ammi jo mujhe khat likhti thi.
Ruqaiyya: To phir uske ghar kyun nahi le kar gaye humein?!
Afzal: Le jaunga eik din. Usee din ke intizaar mein jee raha hun.

From the looks Afzal gives to Farah in this scene, I think this slap in front of her was what finally made his intended move to Karachi an ego issue. He will make it his zidd to not return to Hyderabad. Pretty much all his actions from here on will be driven by this ego and zidd.

This episode again had some really good dialogues by Moulvi sahab ๐Ÿ‘

To Ruqaiyya:

Dekho Ruqaiyya begum, maa baap ke chain aur jaan ki chori koi chori nahi hoti. Yeh to bachon ki amanat hoti hai. Jab chaheingay le leingay.


To Afzal:

Dekho miyan, chain chahay hamara sara le lo. Lekin abhi iski jaan na lena. Baray kaam ki hai tumhari maa meray liye.


To Farah:

Kya hai beta ke, waisay to imaan buhat mazboot hai mera. Aur yeh bhi jaanta hun ke aulaad Allah ki amanat hai. Lekin beta jeetay jee yeh amanatein khuda ko lautanay ki himmat nahi hai. Iklota beta hai is liye darta hun ke kaheen jazbati ho kar ghalat kadam na utha le, ya mujhe chhor kar na chala jaye. Is liye uske saamnay bhi zyada tar is tarah baat karta hun jaisay mein apnay Abba ke samnay kiya karta tha.


And of course, the most heart breaking scene was the below, when Moulvi sahab asks Farah for forgiveness on his son's behalf ๐Ÿ˜ญ




He does that because he wants no more trouble for Afzal from her side, since he doesn't want Afzal to leave them. But it's too late. Afzal has already made up his mind. He is shown packing his clothes... He takes a few of the letters with him. But he leaves behind the black suit that Farah bought him. He knows he wont be needing it anymore.



I never thought it like this ๐Ÿ˜ฒ But it makes complete sense. Hats off girlie ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: -Phantom-


Yeah I ve also felt some people are just wired for bad stuff. It attracts them. They cant help being pulled towards it. That's where we get the black sheep of the family from. And Afzal definitely is one.


Yes even though it hurts him to hurt his parents but still he can't help doing it ๐Ÿค” But at least he admits to it, instead of being stubborn about it ๐Ÿ˜ณ Dil ka sub se Afzal hai ๐Ÿคฃ
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: -Phantom-

I felt the same way when he killed Wali! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ I was like, Oh no. He has turned bad. Where is the innocent Afzal I loved. But pretty soon I was like, umm... maybe bad isn't that bad after all ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜†

And that transformation after the money, wow! And you know what other factor makes him hotter? The fact that while the old Afzal was the one running after a girl and she wasn't interested, this Afzal had a girl running after him and this time he wasn't interested ๐Ÿ˜‰


Bad wasn't bad AT ALL ๐Ÿ˜†

OH YES! Now that you pointed it out... DEFINITELY it added to his charm ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: -Phantom-


No problem, girl. Jab tak mein hun na. I ve got all the time right now during Eid break ๐Ÿ˜ƒ


Haha thanks! I finally got the time to catch up today ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: nehaguptaa

yeah dear he is too hot in gangster look I am drooling over him all the time



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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: -Phantom-

Arifa: To phir sudhar kyun nahi jatay tum?

Afzal: Mein sudhar nahi sakta. Mein sudhar jaoonga to tum tars khaogi mujh per. Us gali se guzarna parega jahan se roz uski gaari guzarti hai. Masjid namaz parhnay jaoonga to Abba dua lambi kar deingay. Darr jayengay ke jab bhi namaz parhta hai koi waardaat karta hai.

Arifa: Waardaat kisko kehtay ho?

Afzal: Meri to muhabbat bhi waardaat ki tarah hai. Lagta hai koi baraa gunah kia hai meinay. Tumharay samnay bhi sharminda hun. Aur sochta hun agar woh samnay aa gai, to sharam se mar hi jaoonga.


Arifa doesn't realize it but I feel Afzal is actually telling her he is leaving Hyderabad. He is talking about everything that might happen if he stayed in the city.

Yes exactly I felt it too and when he says, "Mein sudhar nahi sakta. Mein sudhar jaoonga to tum tars khaogi mujh per." It's like his bad ways are a shield. They keep everyone distracted from his wounded heart ๐Ÿ’” By putting up the image of a bad boy, he hides his true identity underneath. Everyone sees him as a trouble-maker, they don't see him as a failed lover ๐Ÿ˜ญ And yes he is giving Arfa a hint here that Sudharna means staying here and if I do that, all this will happen is liay wo sudhar nahi sakta but she doesn't take the hint ๐Ÿ˜•

And while she doesn't realize, on the other hand, someone else fears all this, and she happens to be none other than Farah herself! One wouldn't expect her to know all this but I feel it's because she is the one directly affected by all that Afzal does, and it was her he was looking at while she visited his house. She said she saw him cry, but she felt it wasn't because he was ashamed. It felt to her as if he believed it was him who was being wronged.

"Daray ga woh, ke kaheen mujhse samna na ho jaye. Woh Hyderabad chhor ke chala jayega. Mera dil keh raha hai, Lubna. Chhor kar chala jayega sab ko. Aur agar nahi gaya to keh dena, jhooton mein sab se jhoota Farah Ibrahim ka dil hai. Eik number ka jhoota."


I found Babloo's dialogue funny when Afzal asks him to pick him up later that night... "Eik to tu ne yeh gunzaish pata nahi kaha se seekh lia hai. Ab har kaam mein teray paas gunzaish hi nahi hoti!" ๐Ÿ˜†

Hahaha I read your post before watching the episode so (in the latest episode, I guess) when Afzal gets on the bike and Babloo is like, think once again and Afzal replies "Roknay aur pechay dekhnay ki gunjaish nahi nahi mery pass," I started laughing ๐Ÿ˜† Babloo also advises him at the station kay 'agar gunjaish nikal aye tou wapis a jana'.๐Ÿ˜†

And then Afzal's line "Sunna hai sharam sammundar se bari hoti hai." ๐Ÿ’”

It was very sweet of Moulvi sahab to sing to his wife and make her laugh, just so she'll stop worrying about Afzal and go to sleep. And she pretended to sleep to make him feel he was successful. โค๏ธ

These two are just adorable ๐Ÿ˜ณ

At Farah's home, her mother has realized that Farah may have feelings for Afzal. She informs of this to her husband when he refuses to send Farah alone to London for further studies.

"Jaanay dein usko. Ab woh akeli nahi hai. Larki jab kisi ke baray mein sochnay lagti hai to woh akeli nahi hoti."

On the other hand, Farah is adamant that Afzal is going to leave that night.

Lubna: Agar tumhari baat sach nikli na, to saari umar tumse dum karwaya karoongi, aur tum se taveez banwaya karoongi. ๐Ÿ˜†

It's clear Farah knows him way better than she lets others know. Better than most of them anyway.

And she is right. Later that night, Afzal quietly walks down the stairs with his shoes and bag in hand, and walks over to stand outside his parents' room. Touching the door, he kneels down to caress his father's slippers, and then touches his hand to his lips. He then gets up, and walks towards the door. But before going out he halts, looks back at his house as if to commit it to memory, looks up towards Lubna's room for a final good bye, and then finally turns around and leaves.

You mean Arfa here ๐Ÿ˜‰








Keep making these posts on any scene which you find important. I love reading and discussing them ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: SmileyStar


I agree with your honest opinion ๐Ÿ˜ณ There is something about Hamza playing Afzal that tugs at your heart strings warna koi male character itna rota tou I would've found him a wimp ๐Ÿ˜†


Exactly. ๐Ÿ˜†

But I find him very hug-able when he cries ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜ณ
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: SmileyStar


SAME HERE! ๐Ÿ˜• It's so annoying! I never finished Aunn Zara either ๐Ÿค” But I guess I will finish this one, Fawad hai na ๐Ÿ˜† Not that OKB isn't hot ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜ƒ



Yeah Im counting on Fawad to get me through this time. Last time I gave up towards the end and decided to re-watch Humsafar. I was like, agar dukhi hi hona hai to wuhi dekh ke na ro loon ๐Ÿ˜†

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