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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bubbly_Shanaya

I really loved Sidra And Zaroon's Equation. Sidra was much much sensible than Kashaf! Lot more Mature And Understanding. The bond between them was more like a Brother-Sister.. Loved their convo's and her positivity about Zaroon..


I agree with you here that Sidra was a bit more sensible than that of Kashaf. I donno, i probably will never understand the struggle kashaf and her family went thru due to their father's abandonment, but i am also not a person who believes in generalizing people under one tag how kashaf did, if she ha dmarried zaroon and comiitted to him, then it was his right and her responsiblity to give him his share of respect and response , unfortunately it was one sided most of the time, and i loved how understanding Zaroon was as he never forced her to open up from her shell and confide into him .

What makes Sidra and Zaroon's equation so lovable is that Sidra had always heard negative things about Zaroon from kashaf, but their first telephone convo, and she understands that this man must be someone special who actually urged to follow her sister and give proposal after so much of hiatus in university plus already several rejections. I always loved how sidra tried to explain kashaf that its not necessary that every man will be like zaroon and run after her, so if he is running after her then there must be something really strong from her side.

what makes me shock is that how come kashaf was filled with so much of rudeness and arrogance while sidra and sharnila and even rafiya were all very much positive and knew that situations can be handled in many other ways too, because they all struggled, they all suffered but then 3 of them had a better approach and kashaf had an altogether different approach,
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sangeet6690

I loved Sidra-Kashaf n Zaroon- Sara scenes..they were like real siblings!!!


ohh zaroon-sara are my babies, i never loved a sibling pair so much, their debates, arguements, everything would contain so much substance, Zaroon the doting brother, and later sara the only person in whom zaroon confided that he loves kashaf, how she needs to support him. Him bringing her out of depression and supporting her for the 2nd marriage, everything was a beauty.. hatts of to the actors here.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nels

I am not sure whose reply/post/blog it was where I read some really wonderful observations about Sidra's character. With all respect to the original observer, I am trying to rephrase the observation below:

Most of the things that Kashaf shared in her dairy were also shared with Sidra. Only difference being, diary was receptive while Sidra was receptive as well as responsive. And this is indeed true!


Apart from this, only Zarun and Sidra were the two people who openly questioned or criticized Kashaf's approach, with the difference being Sidra was part of Kashaf's trustworthy circle while Zarun was an outsider (even after marriage until her insecurities were cleared). Zarun and Sidra's realization about this fact is clearly visible in their first formal cellular introduction and the following scenes. Even if this equation/bonding was not explored it's impact was certainly noticeable.


yes even though the sidra-zaroon equation was not explored, but it did create an impact, it did give me vibes that both sidra and zaroon probably had a similar kind of approach, atleast when it comes to handle kashaf. Sidra being the sister obviously gives more effort to excuse Kashaf and understand her insecurities and complexities whereas Zaroon never tried to make kashaf realise that her insecurities can create a havoc unless the asmara track opened up, he always tried to live upto her expectations and prove her prejudices wrong, and I am sure Sidra's marriage life never had such complexes as probably she never allowed her struggles and insecurities to take over the newly built relationship where she has comiitted by her own decision and was not forced .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sidra helped Zaroon to understand Kashaf also as Kashaf has locked herself in her shell and Sidra was the key who let Zaroon understand her complexes . Once he even told Kashaf that he is in touch with Sidra and Kashaf got angry . No doubt bondings between siblings or with parents and then Kashaf and Zaroon were shown to be stronger with time . And do not forget Sir Abrar ,he also contributed to make Kashaf understand Zaroon and his talk with Zaroon when he asked him to talk with Kashaf about him . . Sidra was a lovely character as if she knew Kashaf better than Kashaf knew herself .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: harshu.sundas


yes even though the sidra-zaroon equation was not explored, but it did create an impact, it did give me vibes that both sidra and zaroon probably had a similar kind of approach, atleast when it comes to handle kashaf. Sidra being the sister obviously gives more effort to excuse Kashaf and understand her insecurities and complexities whereas Zaroon never tried to make kashaf realise that her insecurities can create a havoc unless the asmara track opened up, he always tried to live upto her expectations and prove her prejudices wrong, and I am sure Sidra's marriage life never had such complexes as probably she never allowed her struggles and insecurities to take over the newly built relationship where she has comiitted by her own decision and was not forced .


I don't think Sidra and Zarun had similar approach when it came to Kashaf. Sidra being a sister, had the liberty to be pushy; whereas Zarun was more flexible.
And the reason for his flexibility could be his own insecurity about his unsuccessful marital life because of his impatient and rigid views, which his parents, Sara, Osama and Asmara made him realize over the time.
So to overcome this insecurity without being a dominating and intruding husband (which he became in between but quickly realized it's repercussion on their relationship), only way to access Kashaf's inner self and her problems was Sidra (and this was a well-tested approach).
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neerjaa

Sidra helped Zaroon to understand Kashaf also as Kashaf has locked herself in her shell and Sidra was the key who let Zaroon understand her complexes . Once he even told Kashaf that he is in touch with Sidra and Kashaf got angry . No doubt bondings between siblings or with parents and then Kashaf and Zaroon were shown to be stronger with time . And do not forget Sir Abrar ,he also contributed to make Kashaf understand Zaroon and his talk with Zaroon when he asked him to talk with Kashaf about him . . Sidra was a lovely character as if she knew Kashaf better than Kashaf knew herself .


@bold: So true. It's hard to believe that she is younger than Kashaf when one watches their conversation. She had quite matured and open approach to situations.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nels


I don't think Sidra and Zarun had similar approach when it came to Kashaf. Sidra being a sister, had the liberty to be pushy; whereas Zarun was more flexible.
And the reason for his flexibility could be his own insecurity about his unsuccessful marital life because of his impatient and rigid views, which his parents, Sara, Osama and Asmara made him realize over the time.
So to overcome this insecurity without being a dominating and intruding husband (which he became in between but quickly realized it's repercussion on their relationship), only way to access Kashaf's inner self and her problems was Sidra (and this was a well-tested approach).



Something i loved about this whle relationship that Zaroon was not demanding husband yes sometimes was child like as if loved to be pampered by Kashaf . And he did not intrude in her personal space gave her space to breathe . And any relationship becomes successful if you respect each other space . Zaroon i find to became more patient and understanding with time . He was the product of family where father never interfered in mother,s life and this vacuum always was in his subconscious and thats why he wanted to have an healthy family atmosphere . Still his dialogues in between after marriage were quite amusing as if throwing tantrums .
Sidra was shown to be quite composed and sensible person . she has patience and Kashaf could very easily label a person , not giving any chance to clarify .

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nels


@bold: So true. It's hard to believe that she is younger than Kashaf when one watches their conversation. She had quite matured and open approach to situations.



It depends person to person , does not mean that if you are elder then you are going to be more sensible . As i understood Kashaf , she is emotional and vulnerable thats why she his herself in hard shell where none can touch her . And her diary gave insight in to her psyche . Infact when this show was coming then i started translating the whole episodes from 20th to in English translation . And more i wrote interpreting the expressions , it was for me as if reading some book . Her diary was her safe sanctuary . Never seen such show coming out with such depth in the characters in recent times . And I am Indian , not interested in Hindi shows except Tumhari Paakhi . .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neerjaa

Zaroon i find to became more patient and understanding with time .


Indeed! And the acknowledgement to the fact is clearly represented in form of Zarun's mother comment saying that post-marriage he has changed becoming more responsible.

Originally posted by: Neerjaa

It depends person to person , does not mean that if you are elder then you are going to be more sensible . As i understood Kashaf , she is emotional and vulnerable thats why she his herself in hard shell where none can touch her . And her diary gave insight in to her psyche . Infact when this show was coming then i started translating the whole episodes from 20th to in English translation . And more i wrote interpreting the expressions , it was for me as if reading some book . Her diary was her safe sanctuary . Never seen such show coming out with such depth in the characters in recent times . And I am Indian , not interested in Hindi shows except Tumhari Paakhi . .


Yes, age has nothing to do with maturity and sensibility. However, being elder and having same upbringing gives opportunity to gain more experience and have wider perspective. In that sense, inspite of having more experience Kashaf could not widen her perspective. Sidra always acknowledged that she does not have enough experience or maturity but she had wider perspective. One can say that she was easily influenced by good nature, but that was never the case. She had her own way of testing and judging the situation. She was not impulsive like Kashaf.

@bold: You should watch the launch discussion of the show. Even the director admits that when she read the script, it was difficult for her to imagine what to show audience as most of the time both the leads were pouring out their thoughts into diary 😆.
Well, those introspective scenes not only revealed details of the characters but were also a visual delight (with enticing slow version of respective title tracks).


@red: No comments on any recent Indian show from ZGH's perspective.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nels


Indeed! And the acknowledgement to the fact is clearly represented in form of Zarun's mother comment saying that post-marriage he has changed becoming more responsible.


Yes, age has nothing to do with maturity and sensibility. However, being elder and having same upbringing gives opportunity to gain more experience and have wider perspective. In that sense, in-spite of having more experience Kashaf could not widen her perspective.
know someone who was highly qualified from very rich and educated family . but did not had healthy family environment where parents were always fighting . She jwas ust put off by this marriage concept . Sometimes you are scared of name of marriage . Kashaf saw all this from childhood and i thing being emotional , she was effected more . She hid herself and in her shell . She was stubborn and could not easily come out of her pre concieved notions . Write has written a beautiful story about relationships and how with time equations changes .

Sidra always acknowledged that she does not have enough experience or maturity but she had wider perspective. One can say that she was easily influenced by good nature, but that was never the case. She had her own way of testing and judging the situation. She was not impulsive like Kashaf.

@bold: You should watch the launch discussion of the show. Even the director admits that when she read the script, it was difficult for her to imagine what to show audience as most of the time both the leads were pouring out their thoughts into dairy 😆.
Well, those introspective scenes not only revealed details of the characters but were also a visual delight (with enticing slow version of respective title tracks).


@red: No comments on any recent Indian show from ZGH's perspective.


Yes i have seen that segment where the whole cast of ZGH was present and remember that director asked the write about romantic scenes . There was no scene that appeared to be forced . Yet one dialogue from any of them brought the romance and specially Zaroon ,his dialogues and expressions . Personal diary is something where you pour your heart which you can not share with anyone . And It was Sidra who let Zaroon understand Kashaf . Sidra was more mature and practical . And its quite obvious when you are just talk about one guy , hating him and calling him names . Sidra also is quite sharp also ,she knew somewhere Zaroon was in her subconscious otherwise you do not bother . Sidra thats why readily happy to talk to Zaroon . She was the bridge bringing both of them together and before that poking Kashaf about him . Beauty of this show i found where both thoughts were monologues and writing them .

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