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Originally posted by: sashashyam

I saw a segment about Majhi in one of the Satyameva Jayate programmes 2 years ago. Of course Majhi's love was greater, for he did what he did with his own hands.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My pet,

No one thanks another for showing them such truths. They hate them.

As for the woman, I doubt if her husband would believe that Jalal let her go untouched, and he would be like the dhobi in the Ramayan, most likely. Under those circumstances, the woman would have more vital things to think about than the hollowness of her husband's mohabbat. Like where to go now. One has to get real!

Shyamala Aunty

I have always wondered, in olden days.. Does the world 'touch' mean merely touching or it implied something else?

If a woman accidentally touches a paraya mard.. Did it break her chastity.😕

Edited by Autumn_Rose - 10 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

I will, Alakh, whenever I can. I did a couple of posts there some months back, responding to Kaana, but that was it. In those days, it was full of orthodox historians lamenting the extent of natakiya rupantar and then doing long posts on what they called actual history without giving the sources, which quite put me off. Maybe it is better now!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Sandhya dear,

Just to please you, I will grant you all that you have said about the assorted Ashoka-ites, even
the Ahimsa ki Devi Dharma. Yes, but with one reservation. You have said:

All our mahaan heroines do that. When Sharifuddin could be forgiven because his wife was pregnant, which was worse, Dharma's general ahimsavaad was more tolerable. Agreed. Hinsa is the last resort and is imperative in certain situations, esp defense if not attack, ahimsavaad has its own merits. Wasn't it an important tool in our independence struggle?

The non-cooperation movement and the various satyagrahas damaged the British more than the various acts of violence.

There is no connection that I can see between Sharifuddin's gaddari being forgiven and Dharma's ahimsavaad, which is fact goes even beyond Gandhiji, for she wants people to simply not resist violence, even if that meant they had to die in the process. Gandhiji did not oppose the maintenance or the use of the army in the defence of the nation, as in vacating J&K of the invaders in late 1947.

Now, it might sound blasphemous, and I agree with your last para, but the non-violence movement worked in India because it was the British who were the opponents, and not Hitler's Nazis. Against a Hitler, ahimsa would have been finished on the first day when they executed Gandhiji. And the nation would have been awash with Bhagat Singhs.

That is the truth. Ahimsa is a very noble doctrine, but it is for the very brave, and it cannot be used when there is a brutal foe whose mind cannot be changed by the Dandi march type spectacle. The Rajmata is one such, and there is no point using ahimsa against her.

Everywhere that ahimsa has worked post-Gandhiji, in the American South, in apartheid South Africa, in Walesa's Poland, the deciding factor that ensured its victory was the force of public opinion and, in the South African case, the sanctions that were imposed as a result of public and international pressure. Without that, nothing would have worked.

I find Dharma intensely irritating, because of her refusal to adjust her beliefs in the light of circumstances. Of course, the prevailing doctrine on TV being nari shakti, we will end up with Ashoka's epiphany being moulded not by the Lord Buddha's teachings, but by Dharma's bhashans!😉😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sashashyam

I saw a segment about Majhi in one of the Satyameva Jayate programmes 2 years ago. Of course Majhi's love was greater, for he did what he did with his own hands.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Sabdabhala

AGREE WITH YOU MANDY!! WHAT A MOVIE

AND NAWAZ WAS JUST UNBELIEVABLE

REGARDING THE COMPARISON IN THE LOVE OF MANJHI AND SHAHJAHAN 😆 CIRCUMSTANCES WERE VASTLY DIFFERENT, BUT YES, IN TERMS OF SHEER EFFORT AND GRIT, MANJHI SEEMS TO BE FAR AHEAD OF ALMOST EVERY LOVE STORY THAT I HAVE HEARD