14 Oct 2023 - Synopsis Hub & other discussions. - Page 12

Originally posted by: Emeralues

Yes, she clearly did. She actually felt bad for doing it but did it anyway. She will probably do more in the coming episodes.

I really want to ask writers ..why do they have to spoil everyone...Why did they have to make Manjari manipulate a 6 year old...why do they have to spoil everyone I like

People shouldn't get too attached to Ruhi. Based on ITV standards and the history of the show she has a high probability of being the new vamp of Gen 4.

I wish makers did something new and showed the female cousins supporting each other, but I know it won't happen.

Originally posted by: dotheDrama

I am surpised that Akshara wants another child. She clearly can’t handle Abhir, never could. After today, I am convinced that Akshara wouldn’t give 2 hoots if Abhir dies. She just needs her Navri to be safe. Abhir was just a plot device to take revenge on Abhi and to keep Nav around.

If she is so concerned for Abhir, she would have postponed the puja and adressed Abhir’s insecurity! Her only response to his bullying episode was - “forget this, we won’t talk about it. You’re a strong boy. I will buy you a new uniform and new specs” !? This woman is a pathetic mother.

Like, seriously? The kid has had a rough few months. He has just gotten out of depression and abandonment issues. Pay some attention to him and make him understand. Your Navri will still be in your womb, puja baad mein kar lena!?

When she can’t treat her own son properly, who is she to question Manjari’s or Abhi’s parenthood!? Both Manjari and Abhi have handled insecurities among siblings much better than this woman! Instead of calling them out, she needs to learn a thing or two from them about unconditionally loving one’s child! Be it their own or not.

She asked about mj if ak is giving importance to this child then what's wrong in it because it's of her and nav esliye that's what she asked and also ak does not know the Gaslighting and manipulation mj is doing with abhir.

Originally posted by: Anu234

Makers plot k according sab change karte hei yahi bacchi abhir se insecure thi start mei 🤣

See insecurity is normal..anger insecurity these are all natural..as per me..there is no one in world who doesn't experience them..like she said she was only kid..everyone doted on her..Abhir got her share of attention..it's natural..and I am glad they kept it..it makes them real..her not feeling it would lead to a disconnect...they emphasised on Abhi explaining her and she understood..I liked that..that's how you are supposed to deal with kids..not how Ak does..deviating lying ignoring oblivious to how kids operate..but that's true..makers can change anyone anytime...esp characters I like they take extra effort to ruin them

Originally posted by: lagjagale

Lol, kaha I was expecting Manjari villain era, aur kaha the whole episode was instead about Abhir feeling neglected. Like Manjari must have said two words and even that was about how Abhir won't be coming to Birla house. Like I doubt Abhir gives two hoots about that anyways.

Seriously I am tired of everyone making everything about the stupid abortion that's never going to happen. People only abort if they are under extreme societal obligations, too young, or don't have the financial capacity to raise a kid. Here none of that is true. Plus the mother doesn't want to abort, so the story is over there.

For me more interesting is the Ak-Abhi-Manjari dynamic. Bat hui Ak-Manjari ke beech aur sab tana mar rahe hai Abhimanyu ko. Like I don't understand how Ak thinks. Why does Manjari saying no to the wedding mean bat khatam. What about Abhi, the actual groom has no voice? And its not like he is not raising his voice or anything. She simply doesn't care what he has to say. Uska ego jo hurt hua hai. I hated how she talked to Abhi even today. Like Abhi clearly said that he doesn't care what his ma thinks, for him, this baby is also his baby. Itna clearly bol diya. Ak didn't correct him also. And then when BP asked Abhi to come to pooja for baby, she interrupted and was like don't put Abhi in that position, he can't come. What position?

Even Abhi said that to him the reason why she told him to go to ma, was that she doesn't want to come in between them. This was when he again went to meet her in her room and she was again sleeping.

Abhir got bullied in school for lying about the wedding and about his father. All the lies his mom told him are basically coming back to bite him now. He is blaming all of this on new baby which is not allowing for shadi to happen. Ruhi tried to calm him down and gave such a nice explanation for how she herself felt jealous of him when he first came to Udaipur but later she understood that everyone loves them both equally. Yeh hai Abhi ki parvarish. I am hoping he has a similar conversation with Abhir as well and makes him understand.

Abhi from his end doesn't want Ak to take a bad decision ( aborting the baby), under pressure from all of this so he is just busy trying to relieve the pressure...rather unsuccessfully I think.

Ak later promised Abhir that she will love him the most or put him first or something. She also promised to go to his science fair even though it clashes with pooja for the baby. Her plan is to do both basically ( lol, how many times has she done this with Abhi? ), but she will end up missing the science fair. Swarna talked about Abhir having abandonment issues and they basically need to remove those for him by marrying? I am not sure what she meant.

All of this is just going to lead to Abhi proposing to Ak to get married without family. Maybe he will say we can go live elsewhere as well or something. Pata nahi kya, but she will likely only agree for Abhir, and then accident!

Jab ruhi ki insecurity dekhayi thi jab abhir ko samajdar dekhaya tha ab it's vice versa situation k according maker's logo ko turn karte aur kya

Originally posted by: Emeralues

The 2 min love story thing was actually addressed by Mimi and Abhira themselves after their marriage. Mimi explained to Akshara as to why she needs to treat her marriage time and understanding before she went to the party and Abhira themselves under the table for the fire. They acknowledged that their marriage was too quick. They never dates and promised to not leave each other after each argument. It's just that MJ calling it out after so long brings into perspective that something was wrong with the way they themselves reacted to it. and she didn't leave Abhi out of this.

The family was actually the only reason they separated. That is why it makes no sense why Akshara was blaming the entire marriage with Abhi as if she was not even there. She had no such problem presented to her with Nav. Just reiterates the deterioration of her character to being so spiteful that she is willing to sacrifice her own son's peace of mind for it.

Honestly, I didn't have as much of an issue with the two min love story. That's love at first sight and I prefer those stories to the friends to lovers or enemies to lovers trope so popular in ITV. But the thing is that their families are quick to judge them and blame them when they themselves are only trying to do right by their family.

Think about it, everytime either one of them has opposed the other to help their family members it's backfired. And then the same family just ends up blaming them instead of taking responsibility in their mess.

There is a huge lack of understanding yes, but to me that is not Abhira's fault. They were never given the time or space to sort things out. They were never given that space in the family that it's ok, we don't want you to take sides here, you manage your own relationship first. Just look at how Muskaan and Kairav's relationship is. It's sooo much worse than Abhira's ever was, but still they remain together cause the Goenkas take care of that. They don't let their issues turn that huge. Manish stops Kairav from going too far. The rest of the family maybe upset with Muskaan but no one wants her to leave. That is what Abhira needed. They needed their families to support them. To stop them from going too far. To take up responsibility when they failed etc.

I have several examples of that! I won't go into before marriage. But first leap, we all know what Mahima did, but when she was blamed she conveniently said issue was in Abhira trust. Except before that she herself was telling Abhi that he has to choose family and he can't always choose Ak and all. They themselves were instigating and telling Abhi to cut off Ak and stand with his family. But after everything was over, it's Abhira's fault. During that reunion, Manjari is the one who brought Arohi into that house, who then instigated Manjari against Ak and it became such a cycle that by the time Neil's death happened, Manjari already had no faith in Ak which is why she blamed her. But she also blamed Abhi. She put everything on him and he was just trying to keep everyone afloat. Ak didn't help with that, and then he divorced her in anger. Fine tragedy can make people do crazy things. But what did their families do? Did Manjari or anyone tell Abhi no this is wrong go bring her back first? BP himself misrepresented info to both of them and now it's again on how they were bad at it.

Their families were wholly responsible for what happened during both the times. Their reactions weren't in vacuum, but we're heavily influenced by these families who they loved and these people who claimed to love them, have always had ridiculous expectations from them and then also blamed them for everything.

Another episode which showed how Madam Akshu isn't a good parent at all. Abhir suffered the bullying because of her pack of lies that messed up the kid. And even after listening to all this, she has zero realization. Her solution was to never talk about it . Wah. She's gaslighting him saying he's strong so let's brush the issue under the carpet. And cracking lame PJs isn't solution to any thing. Kaisi FL hai ye?

Seriously she can't raise one kid properly, why is she bringing another kid into the world?

Abhir's insecurities are very real. But Akshu is such a shallow person that all she can do is lie and lie more, give fake promises but never have a realization.

Although it's depressing, today's episode made it clear she will easily forget Abhir and move on with Navri after Abhi and Abhir's exit. The only person who'll be affected is poor Manjari, who by the way didn't "manipulate" Abhir. She just stated a fact, which she wouldn't have usually, but there's no point in sugarcoating things. Akshu is already all about Navri.After her birth, Abhir will be invisible for her. Better he gets that from now.

It was very sad to watch Abhir walking with his project dejected while goenkas were running crazy with pooja prep (Who holds these many poojas for a baby? Even before its birth?)and Akshu was as usual saying nonsense thinking that'll placate him. One can see from a mile how bad a mother she is.

Originally posted by: Anu234

Jab ruhi ki insecurity dekhayi thi jab abhir ko samajdar dekhaya tha ab it's vice versa situation k according maker's logo ko turn karte aur kya

I don't think so, Abhir was secure because he knew that his mom and dad, his family, was his. Ruhi was the one who had to first face this issue of sharing her loved ones with another kid. That's why the issue was shown first with Ruhi. I don't think Abhir was shown as being samajdar, he simply thought Ruhi had more rights on Abhi than he did.

Now Abhir is in that position for the first time. His mom who only ever paid attention to him is now paying attention to another kid. So it makes sense for Ruhi to explain things to him cause Abhir hasn't gone through this before.

Originally posted by: Anu234

She asked about mj if ak is giving importance to this child then what's wrong in it because it's of her and nav esliye that's what she asked and also ak does not know the Gaslighting and manipulation mj is doing with abhir.

??? Manjari said one sentence about Abhir's room, that Abhir doesn't even care about. She said nothing about who is responsible or why the wedding isn't happening. I wouldn't call any of this gaslighting. Even manipulation it's piddi sa. That's not what affected Abhir. What affected him was first all the lies told by Ak so far, second wedding being cancelled last min and told that there is a new baby, then not being given any certainty and knowing it's related to baby, and finally his feelings being ignored in favor of the new baby.

Originally posted by: Anu234

She asked about mj if ak is giving importance to this child then what's wrong in it because it's of her and nav esliye that's what she asked and also ak does not know the Gaslighting and manipulation mj is doing with abhir.

@bold What gaslighting and manipulation? Saying she can’t put up a family photo of theirs in Abhir’s new room cause his parents aren’t getting married? Well, that’s true at the moment, right? Akshara doesn’t want to marry Abhi because his mother won’t accept her baby.

Manjari did want to use Abhir to manipulate Akshara, but she hasn’t really said anything that he doesn’t know already. Also, immediately after she did feel guilty. A trait that Akshara will never learn. I am in no way justifying Manjari’s stance on the abortion. No mother should have to abort her child if she is not willing to. But that’s something that Akshara has already decided against. So why talk about it? Instead, she should focus on making Abhir understand that her love towards him will not falter because of the new baby. Akshara herself is the biggest reason for Abhir’s behavior.