Second chance nonsense by muskan and abhinav - Page 5

Originally posted by: Ria23

I still think kairav shefali seems better pair

Abhinav will be gone, would musksan still remain neutral towards akshu or keep a grudge against her

I am hoping they bring up some complexity and have Muskaan hold a grudge toward Ak. But we don't even know what the endgame is, so who knows.

Originally posted by: lagjagale

Jumping in here. Ak living with a stranger itself is a problem; forget about marrying him. But to your point, in Abhinav case, no one knew him, no one from Ak's family or from their friends, or even Ak herself. Here, Kairav is literally Ak's brother, so if she says this is a good idea, then she knows what she is talking about. Even in Abhi's case, Goenkas and Birlas didn't know each other directly, but they knew of each other. Plus, the adults themselves decided that these two are a good match. So it's not the same as marrying a stranger either.

How did they know each other ? Everyone is a stranger before they get acquainted...in colleges or workplace or arranged marriage set up, everyone is a stranger to begin with. Akshu took his help after he helped her several times n decided to marry him 6 months into knowing him/living with him under the same roof.

Future I don't know but he turned out to be a much better person than Dr Birla who akshara accidently met on a trip .

Originally posted by: Krinya

How did they know each other ? Everyone is a stranger before they get acquainted...in colleges or workplace or arranged marriage set up, everyone is a stranger to begin with. Akshu took his help after he helped her several times n decided to marry him 6 months into knowing him/living with him under the same roof.

Future I don't know but he turned out to be a much better person than Dr Birla who akshara accidently met on a trip .

I already explained that, na. Abhi was a stranger, just like Nav. But both Abhi and Ak were from Udaipur, and they had heard of Abhi as a doctor. Moreover, both families were involved. Usually, in such cases, the families also do extensive background checks and everything. Nothing really happens unless they "know" the other person and their family. In Abhira's case, I am sure they had even heard of each other cause they were both rich and had similar circles.

But in Nav's case, there was no background check, nothing. Of course, it is a part of him being an orphan, but also a part of Ak just not caring about all of that. For example, if she told BP she wanted to marry Nav, he might have investigated his background and stuff. But nope, she just married and called after to inform.

There isn't much else. It's the basic difference between an arranged marriage/ love marriage with family permission and eloping with a stranger. He may not have been a stranger to Ak. But he was a stranger to everyone else.

Originally posted by: Kacchakela21

Accha? Toh Akshara jis Abhinav ke saath 7 mahine rahi, usse shadi karne par logon ko itni mirchi kyun lag gayi? Sab ke liye alag alag rules Hain kya?

Kisiko yahan unke shadi se mirchi nahi lagi, jiss wajah se shadi hua tha, people are questioning about that!!!

Originally posted by: lagjagale

I already explained that, na. Abhi was a stranger, just like Nav. But both Abhi and Ak were from Udaipur, and they had heard of Abhi as a doctor. Moreover, both families were involved. Usually, in such cases, the families also do extensive background checks and everything. Nothing really happens unless they "know" the other person and their family. In Abhira's case, I am sure they had even heard of each other cause they were both rich and had similar circles.

But in Nav's case, there was no background check, nothing. Of course, it is a part of him being an orphan, but also a part of Ak just not caring about all of that. For example, if she told BP she wanted to marry Nav, he might have investigated his background and stuff. But nope, she just married and called after to inform.

There isn't much else. It's the basic difference between an arranged marriage/ love marriage with family permission and eloping with a stranger. He may not have been a stranger to Ak. But he was a stranger to everyone else.

You mean to say that a person's own judgement means nothing unless it's validated by their family ? Nobody makes friends / boyfriends / girlfriends doing background checks on them in schools colleges , workplace or random meetings.

An alliance fixed by the family can also go wrong , with the background checks . I have seen plenty of examples in real life. Dr Birla being the best .

Akshara is dumb and abhinav gets the ss , doesn't mean we pick faults in just about anything specially when Dr Birla gets a free pass for days like white day also.

Originally posted by: Krinya

You mean to say that a person's own judgement means nothing unless it's validated by their family ? Nobody makes friends / boyfriends / girlfriends doing background checks on them in schools colleges , workplace or random meetings.

An alliance fixed by the family can also go wrong , with the background checks . I have seen plenty of examples in real life. Dr Birla being the best .

Akshara is dumb and abhinav gets the ss , doesn't mean we pick faults in just about anything specially when Dr Birla gets a free pass for days like white day also.

Well what you said half things can be agreed as having own judgement n all but.... The reason she got married was what don't agree to... She should have liked him first to get married...and don't say majboori n all because naira was also in the same situation but didn't get married and this was long before akshara n Abhimanyu's time where people would have judged her in even worst.... I truly didn't get to why she left the house and didn't go to her parents house .....she just left in some bus without any money or id proof...... It's like ghar chod k jaana uski aadat h ... n for once couldn't she face the problem? And live happily with career n her son..... N show everyone that she can be independent n happy ? At least she wouldn't be living in fear of her some getting to know the truth n forcing herself ( deep down she like Abhimanyu.... Both of them has ego issue )

Also regarding fixing marriage between Abhimanyu and akshara wasn't arranged but love as Abhimanyu n aarohi marriage was arranged due to manjri's mistake.

Why blame Abhimanyu n manjri only...... When Abhimanyu and akshara has communication issue ..... Both at fault.... I dont think abhinav knows the real reason for the divorce thing .... He might accept akshara even after that... But that doesn't give any closure tho akshara and Abhimanyu.... They all need to sit and discuss/talk like adults and sort out the issue and be honest.... Abhinav is good person doesn't deserve half hearted/forcing love.....

If akshara is gonna tell abhir why he divorced her then she should also tell about Neil which led to manjri's mind loss and her one baby loss. And the reason for it. Half truth may lead to disaster.

Manjri health wasn't right about to not survive during the that akshara ka call which triggered another emotions and which lead to Abhimanyu saying he doesn't want to listen to her....which hurt akshara so much but she doesn't know that abhiM mom life was at risk at the same time..... Timing wasn't right for the right news

Also in the beginning Abhimanyu didn't want the kids because akshara life was in danger but then he agreed after akshara's lot of assurance.

Not saying Abhimanyu is right on what he did but the trigger of emotion may lead to certain things which we don't actually mean to.... And It's just a fictional character.... But even normal person can blame and keep that party responsible for the "situation"

Also Abhimanyu didn't abuse akshara... He neither hit her or mentally tortured her.... He loved her and she loved him.... She didn't tell him things and kept it to herself and he didn't understand her because she didn't explain him .... As husband and wife they need to tell each other of it's gonna affect anyone of them in bad way and people might take advantage of that to break them apart...due to misunderstanding and miscommunication

All in all akshara made mess when it was already messy because of the death of Neil.... The situations made them take steps which turned out not so good

Originally posted by: Naay

Well what you said half things can be agreed as having own judgement n all but.... The reason she got married was what don't agree to... She should have liked him first to get married...and don't say majboori n all because naira was also in the same situation but didn't get married and this was long before akshara n Abhimanyu's time where people would have judged her in even worst.... I truly didn't get to why she left the house and didn't go to her parents house .....she just left in some bus without any money or id proof...... It's like ghar chod k jaana uski aadat h ... n for once couldn't she face the problem? And live happily with career n her son..... N show everyone that she can be independent n happy ? At least she wouldn't be living in fear of her some getting to know the truth n forcing herself ( deep down she like Abhimanyu.... Both of them has ego issue )

Cutting out the rest bec I don't want to repeat myself , nor is it the topic of discussion currently. Plus , when situation is unfavorable for abhim and he can get a free pass for white day, it was the same for akshara as she too is a fictional character who was horribly treated for her mistake by the person who claimed so much love for her. Love also means looking past each other's mistakes . Or not ? Ppl get angry , throw things around , abuse , curse , say the nastiest of things but not divorce instantly like 2 mins Maggie noodles.

Who said "liking" is the criteria for marriage ? Not all marriages are love marriages.

She didn't go to her parents house bec her parents are dead. The people left didn't support her in her worst time , nor take a stand for her , nor shut up mummy and beta while they abused akshu even in present , nor come looking for her nor see her in 6 yrs justbec she said so. If goenkas have reasons to not support akshu they can go to hell . A parent at least is capable of forgiveness no matter how grave a sin their child commit

As for the last part why she didn't do so and so , I can also say why couldn't abhimanyu drop her to goenkas , not talk to her for sometime before he cools down, instead of divorcing her that very moment ? This situation wouldn't have arisen where akshu was wandering alone on streets probably contemplating suicide and take more "stupid" decisions which went perfectly well for her but not the fans ..

Pl don't give me deep down theories as i go by what's shown to me ..if akshara says she has moved on and her rishta with abhin is complete , there is no deep down anywhere .

Originally posted by: Krinya

Cutting out the rest bec I don't want to repeat myself , nor is it the topic of discussion currently. Plus , when situation is unfavorable for abhim and he can get a free pass for white day, it was the same for akshara as she too is a fictional character who was horribly treated for her mistake by the person who claimed so much love for her. Love also means looking past each other's mistakes . Or not ? Ppl get angry , throw things around , abuse , curse , say the nastiest of things but not divorce instantly like 2 mins Maggie noodles.

Who said "liking" is the criteria for marriage ? Not all marriages are love marriages.

She didn't go to her parents house bec her parents are dead. The people left didn't support her in her worst time , nor take a stand for her , nor shut up mummy and beta while they abused akshu even in present , nor come looking for her nor see her in 6 yrs justbec she said so. If goenkas have reasons to not support akshu they can go to hell . A parent at least is capable of forgiveness no matter how grave a sin their child commit

As for the last part why she didn't do so and so , I can also say why couldn't abhimanyu drop her to goenkas , not talk to her for sometime before he cools down, instead of divorcing her that very moment ? This situation wouldn't have arisen where akshu was wandering alone on streets probably contemplating suicide and take more "stupid" decisions which went perfectly well for her but not the fans ..

Pl don't give me deep down theories as i go by what's shown to me ..if akshara says she has moved on and her rishta with abhin is complete , there is no deep down anywhere .

Well i never said what you mentioned wasn't right.... Just that both of them are fault...n moving on is good but they should build up the story in such a way to convince the audience....every situation has black n white sides but should never forget there is a shade of grey ..... Also why did they show a episode when Abhimanyu was in accident n akshara's face showed that her heart stopped for a second.... Why be afraid to accept n tell the truth when she is moved on.... and goenkas when did stop being there for her?

I'm neither akshara n Abhimanyu's supporter.... But seeing your reply you seem to have strong opinion on Abhimanyu but not akshara .... When in reality both of them are wrong. Abhinav is just a nice person stuck in the situation of these both

These are just thoughts.... Everyone has their own questions the way they see ... Peace ✌️

You are acting like this is news. The whole point of Rishta is that family approval is important. Even during Abhira's case, the family wasn't agreeing, so they spent a lot of time trying to convince them. So yeah, family approval is important, and marrying a stranger that your family hasn't even seen or heard of is insane.

Moreover, even in situations where people elope, it's cause of love, not convenience. I know that love isn't the only reason people marry, but it should be the only reason. That's the whole point. No one is saying Ak is stupid or dumb for randomly marrying a stranger. But her mistakes are there, and if people are commenting on it, what's wrong?

Abhi's mistakes have been talked about and discussed plenty of times. He has not been given a pass for white day; people just understand his situation. As in, a lot of people in a similar situation think they would have had the same reaction. With Ak its less so. I personally would have never trusted a stranger over my family, no matter how estranged I get from them. And here, it's not like the Goenkas even did anything. They always supported Arohi over Ak and did blame Ak for the deaths - but they still wanted to be there for her and support her. If Ak didn't want to go back to Udaipur, she could have just asked for financial help; why not? It's still her money. She could have gone through the pregnancy at a proper place with all the amenities. Nav can still be there for support. And if Ak did fall in love with Nav eventually, then her marrying him makes sense - even without family approval.

But here, she refused her family's help, lived in horrible conditions during a complicated pregnancy, and essentially burdened a stranger into taking care of her. Then after she nearly died during childbirth, she woke up and saw how much this stranger did for her. At this point, I agree Nav is no longer a stranger. But....she still didn't trust him with her heart. She literally married him to have a substitute father for her son, so her decision of not informing Abhi would be justified in her eyes. Even after all this, she still refused to become independent or anything. After six years, she is still depending on her "husband" to run the household.

The whole situation and her reasoning for her actions aren't clear so people are still questioning it. Even during the first leap her actions and reasoning were bad. It's just a trend with the character, and they have written her so poorly it's hard to root for her.