Pain of a mother

Why do I find it hard to relate to Akshara's pain? I watched the episode but it doesn't make me feel like clapping for her because of the irony in her statements

Didn't Manjri lose her son whom she had raised for 30+ years? The pain of a mother doesn't apply to her because she is not a main character?

How was she going to look for Akshara?

The other day when Abhir got electrocuted Akshara physically assaulted Abhimanyu, the pain and fear of a mother taking over, but all that is reserved for 1 or 2 characters

Abhimanyu has to forget that he lost his brother, Manjari has to forget that she lost her son

It doesn't make any sense to me there's absolutely no acknowledgement of the other side, it is not as black and white as they are presenting it to us

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Neil s death is NOT Akshara s fault. Period!!

A grown-ass man can make his decision. He chooses to go with her. His death is on those who murdered him. Not Akshara

Akshara should not have gone to help while pregnant. Yes. But she has already suffered for action. She lost her child. She lost everything. Enough now. Stop punishing her more

Nowhere did AKshara or anyone else say that Manjari or Lotamnayu should have forgotten the loss of a brother or son. No. They were mourning. Got. But they could have tried to bring Akshara back after a few months

Remember Akshara was waiting for Abhimanyu for 9 months

Marriage with Abhinav happened after Abhir was born

Both Manjari the character and you the viewer would understand Akshara s pov. If you actually try to see things from her perspective

If it gets acknowledged that Akshara has suffered a lot for the one mistake.

It's so true that there is no acknowledgment of the other side. Absolutely no acknowledgment on Lotamanyu or Manjari s part

Was anyone misbehaving with them? Accused them, and threw them out of the house. No one is diminishing their pain, in fact if akshara didn’t care about their side, she wouldn’t have also called to inform them that one child survived.

On white day everyone suffered, they were able to vent out their pain and their pain was acknowledged and supported, except for akshara who became the punching bag. Who along with getting accused, also lost her BIL, and her kids? Abhi did as well, but he vented out by chucking akshara out of the house, put all the blame on her.

I guess it’s perception on who you want to relate to . But the facts are there,To me hands down it’s akshara, cos she became the punching bag who was left to dust and wasn’t even reached out to check if she is fine or not even after months after everything happened, so NO the mother beta duo have no right to come accusing without acknowledging their faults.

But to each their own. No one was stopping abhiM and Manjiri to go visit akshara all these years, cos it didn’t stop abhiM from proposing to a married woman years later, what happened in the years in between when he clearly felt bad about the shit he spouted but didn’t have the guts to go apologise if not for the accidental meeting in Kasauli.

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

Neil s death is NOT Akshara s fault. Period!!

A grown-ass man can make his decision. He chooses to go with her. His death is on those who murdered him. Not Akshara

Akshara should not have gone to help while pregnant. Yes. But she has already suffered for action. She lost her child. She lost everything. Enough now. Stop punishing her more

Nowhere did AKshara or anyone else say that Manjari or Lotamnayu should have forgotten the loss of a brother or son. No. They were mourning. Got. But they could have tried to bring Akshara back after a few months

Remember Akshara was waiting for Abhimanyu for 9 months

Marriage with Abhinav happened after Abhir was born

Both Manjari the character and you the viewer would understand Akshara s pov. If you actually try to see things from her perspective

If it gets acknowledged that Akshara has suffered a lot for the one mistake.

I have seen episodes which led to his death and I think it was her fault

None is saying that she should be tried with charges of murder so the "fault" here doesn't mean she is his murderer, it simply means that her foolishness led to it

I don't think she has been punished or is even guilty about it, having a good husband and son, a beautiful family is no punishment

Anyway, my post is about dialogues from Akshara in the clip

Manjari lost Neil ...ok I understand that she is in pain but how is it Akshara fault or how it will invalidate Akshara's pain? For last 6 years Manjari blamed Akshara as murderer ...By blaming Akshara, Manjari pain reduced? Or she will get Neil back? How is it Akshara fault if Neil is dead? Why Akshara should be blamed for it?

That b!tch blamed Akshara and acting like victim. To feel Akshara pain no need to see even white day episode...just look at trashmanyu standing like statue when his mother blaming Akshara and still defending his mother...

Originally posted by: NoraSM

I have seen episodes which led to his death and I think it was her fault

None is saying that she should be tried with charges of murder so the "fault" here doesn't mean she is his murderer, it simply means that her foolishness led to it

I don't think she has been punished or is even guilty about it, having a good husband and son, a beautiful family is no punishment

Anyway, my post is about dialogues from Akshara in the clip

No its not. A grown-ass man can make his own decision. Neil was not a child. His death is on those who murdered her

She lost her child, her husband. Everything. She has been punished enough physically and mentally

See, I am not a huge Akshara fan. But still, I can see that in this entire ordeal, nobody has suffered more apart from Akshara and Ruhi.

Also, there is no point in this debate. You will never relate to or understand Akshara because you don't want to.

Originally posted by: saa2929

Was anyone misbehaving with them? Accused them, and threw them out of the house. No one is diminishing their pain, in fact if akshara didn’t care about their side, she wouldn’t have also called to inform them that one child survived.

On white day everyone suffered, they were able to vent out their pain and their pain was acknowledged and supported, except for akshara who became the punching bag. Who along with getting accused, also lost her BIL, and her kids? Abhi did as well, but he vented out by chucking akshara out of the house, put all the blame on her.

I guess it’s perception on who you want to relate to . But the facts are there,To me hands down it’s akshara, cos she became the punching bag who was left to dust and wasn’t even reached out to check if she is fine or not even after months after everything happened, so NO the mother beta duo have no right to come accusing without acknowledging their faults.

But to each their own. No one was stopping abhiM and Manjiri to go visit akshara all these years, cos it didn’t stop abhiM from proposing to a married woman years later, what happened in the years in between when he clearly felt bad about the shit he spouted but didn’t have the guts to go apologise if not for the accidental meeting in Kasauli.

I don't understand this reply

Please watch the clip then read my post because you have written so many things, I have never mentioned or there's no connection of it with my post. I don't know how to reply to you

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

No its not. A grown-ass man can make his own decision. Neil was not a child. His death is on those who murdered her

She lost her child, her husband. Everything. She has been punished enough physically and mentally

See, I am not a huge Akshara fan. But still, I can see that in this entire ordeal, nobody has suffered more apart from Akshara and Ruhi.

Also, there is no point in this debate. You will never relate to or understand Akshara because you don't want to.

I won't repeat myself so replying to @bold

Don't think you know me, I am a very complex individual.

Which son did manjiri lose? Oh yeah, the step-son whom she hid from his father for no real reason and watched silently as he was humiliated and abused by his own father his entire life and treated like an outsider/ burden by his family elders. She never even gave a proper justification for why she never told the family or neil he was actually harsh's son, not even considering to tell the truth when she saw how he was being ill-treated and ridiculed by his own father who she let believe was an orphan.

Abhir is akshara's own son whom she had a justification for hiding, that being that she was cruelly thrown out/ divorced by her husband who didn't bother to actually look back to find out what state she was in and continued his ranting and insulting even when despite him throwing her out of his life she tried to contact him to tell him the truth about still being pregnant with one surviving twin. She got fed up of trying only to be met with his insults so decided to choose her self-respect and raising her son with the help of a man who stuck by her in her entire pregnancy and helped in ensuring her child was born.

I say that is a far better justification and worthy of sympathy for akshara as a mother than that step mother who actively ruined her step son's life and never actually apologised to her step-son for it and instead acted solely like the victim in the situation and never gave a justification for why she hid the truth.

Another thing, there is no legal obligation for a mother to have to inform the father about the child, but even then despite being divorced and thrown out by her husband akshara at least tried to contact him to tell him truth but he rejected contact with her.

Manjiri on other hand is not even neil's biological mother but knowingly adopted him, took him to live in the same house as his biological father and decided she will not inform the biological father about his child and instead allow him to insult and humiliate his own son thinking he is an orphan adopted and brought to his house without his permission whilst she watches on.

Harsh being a terrible father and husband is another issue altogether, but manjiri is a terrible mother herself who ruined her step-son's life and gave no justifications for her actions and upon truth reveal she made the entire thing about how she had been wronged by harsh but not how she and harsh both had wronged neil and cheated him.

I have no sympathy for manjiri, in the same way she had no sympathy for neil being abused by his own father because she chose to hide the truth from them both. Biggest hypocrite is manjiri then, who herself hid a son from a father for years, and is crying foul when her daughter-in-law does it to her ass of a son who loves playing divorce-sorry-repeat.

Originally posted by: NoraSM

I have seen episodes which led to his death and I think it was her fault

None is saying that she should be tried with charges of murder so the "fault" here doesn't mean she is his murderer, it simply means that her foolishness led to it

I don't think she has been punished or is even guilty about it, having a good husband and son, a beautiful family is no punishment

Anyway, my post is about dialogues from Akshara in the clip

You talk as if Neil has no agency whatsoever. You speak as if he is a child that Akshara dragged and pushed into a mess. He is a grown ass adult who went with her with clear informed consent.

And it is not even like he took her to the goons and asked them to murder him or that she took him to a place and murdered him.

What do you mean she has no guilt. She loved Neil so much. Probably more than Aarohi loved her husband, Akshara loved Neil as her younger brother. She had a kid, a complicated pregnancy, she was trying to build a family. Why didn't she try to come back to Udaipur? It is partly because of guilt and partly of self respect and not wanting to be next to Birla toxic family.

And come on please, Yes, Manjari raised Neil but she always preferred and prioritised Abhimanyu. She has always shown the difference between khoon and paraaya. I do think her reaction on the day of Neil's death was OTT, considering he wasn't even that important to her. She gaslighted him and let him be treated like shit through out his life that he even questioned his existence so many times. If you look at it, Neil had so much trauma than Abhimanyu, but the show was obssessd with ego ka murti doc man.

So, yeah. I think Manjari was just punishing Akshu because she thought because of Akshu, she lost her son's babies, her grand children. Because if she hadn't Manjari wouldn't have thrown her out. And if Abhimanyu had done it, Manjari would have made him get her back.

So, no, I don't think Manjari's pain is about Neil's death. It is clearly about the loss of her son's children and his pain.

And so, Akshara's pain indeed is bigger than Manjari's for sure.