Akshu's Character - Page 2

Originally posted by: lagjagale

Apparently, no matter how much I write about Akshu, it's still viewed as though I am writing about Abhi or Nav. I am NOT. Ak's perspective doesn't mean her feelings for people. For the last time, this has NOTHING to do with Abhi or Nav. I am just talking about the writers and their failure to characterize Akshu. A character's POV is important to making a character 3D.

I am not refusing to believe that Ak may love Nav now or whatever. I am talking about her POV wrt the white day. Does she feel guilty? Does she consider this repentance? Does she feel guilty about any of her previous mistakes? About hiding Abhir? Nothing has been given, we are just assuming a lot of things. In general, Ak's POV has been absent from Day 1.

I am happy to discuss Abhi or Nav, but just for this post, can we keep it to discussing Akshu alone by herself?

Finally, NO, making someone feel special in a relationship is not the same as idolizing them. Idolizing them is thinking they can do no wrong, so when they do something that is a human error, it's seen as something much worse cause you treated them like a saint before. Making someone feel special in a relationship can be more about that person, specifically like Abhi liking her music or liking that she decided to give her grains to the hungry kids instead of winning the race. Again, not supporting Abhi; just giving an example. In Nav's case, it can be him liking her scolding him cause he sees that as a sign of affection.

She clearly stated what she felt about white day at the temple but let's just collectively ignore that.

Why should she still continue to feel guilty for a crime she did not commit and has already endured the punishment for?

If she wasn't feeling guilty about Neil's death, she would not have let Manjari badminton her.

Parents make mistakes. As if we don't have enough of mom shaming going on in real life too that we now expect fictional moms too to blame themselves. They're are also human like everybody else. Even mothers make mistakes(i wouldn't call it a mistake though, because she is not the antaryami to know everything) and that is completely normal.

Her POV should not be her reaction to Abhi's stupid love declaration. She accused him and showed him the mirror; awesome! But what about her? Her POV should have been shown six years back. Then right after the leap, no one knows how she feels until she confronts Abhi ? You do see that she is being written entirely for the male leads, and that is the problem. And nothing about her guilt or repentance is discussed. She just says you should not have blamed me, which I agree with, but she must have felt bad about what happened beyond everyone else guilting her.

For Abhi's POV, for example, we get a breakdown with Shefali or even his several breakdowns before that; for Nav, we get his thoughts when discussing with Neelamma or having daydreams, but we get nothing for Akshu.

Originally posted by: Kacchakela21

Why should she still continue to feel guilty for a crime she did not commit and has already endured the punishment for?

If she wasn't feeling guilty about Neil's death, she would not have let Manjari badminton her.

Parents make mistakes. As if we don't have enough of mom shaming going on in real life too that we now expect fictional moms too to blame themselves. They're are also human like everybody else. Even mothers make mistakes(i wouldn't call it a mistake though, because she is not the antaryami to know everything) and that is completely normal.

Originally posted by: lagjagale

Apparently, no matter how much I write about Akshu, it's still viewed as though I am writing about Abhi or Nav. I am NOT. Ak's perspective doesn't mean her feelings for people. For the last time, this has NOTHING to do with Abhi or Nav. I am just talking about the writers and their failure to characterize Akshu. A character's POV is important to making a character 3D.

I am not refusing to believe that Ak may love Nav now or whatever. I am talking about her POV wrt the white day. Does she feel guilty? Does she consider this repentance? Does she feel guilty about any of her previous mistakes? About hiding Abhir? Nothing has been given, we are just assuming a lot of things. In general, Ak's POV has been absent from Day 1.

Yaar in ur original post you mentioned Bhimanyu and nav right ? We can't talk abt akshara alone , leaving out the 2 imp characters connected to her ..

Firstly their narrative is never about what each character is thinking..they never give us the monologs, the characters r never discussing / sharing anything abt their lives to anybody. Every scene is dramatic where one is lashing out on the other or crying or dealing with a mishap...... Once upon a time , yrkkh was known for such nuances but currently , no. Akshu talking anything worthwhile to kairav , BP, suvarna , mimi , arohi or muskan , I've never seen such scenes ..

Abt this white day incident , she or abhimanyu or none of the family members ever discussed it..the only memory of that day is everyone blaming akshu for the murders.

i still don't understand why she should spell it out that she's guilty ....why won't she feel guilty ? She lost Neil and one of her babies , why does she have to specifically say that she feels guilty? I don't know about others but I don't think she was completely wrong that day..she set out to save some lives but in the process lost some....its totally a gray zone...but if she doesn't say she's guilty that doesn't mean she thinks she did the right thing ..unless they play the same scenario again these things will never be discussed in the show..akshu never tried to justify herself bec there is nothing to justify ...

Tell.me did they give us abhimanyus pov of that day? Why he called her murderer and suddenly he was ready to have the same murderer back in his life ?

I think I understand your point a little. but I might say that we are not getting clear a POV.

We are getting her POV in many situations, but they are all open-ended.

I only started after JS's entry and will promptly leave the show after his death or his turning negative...

But from what I can see We are getting some of Ak's POV at least after the leap

1. She thanks Kanhaji for giving her happiness and peaceful life.

2. She values Nav as a dear friend, cares for him, and insists on buying a pair of shoes as she knew he values her and her son before him.

3. When Nav insists on trusting 'Dilwale bhaiji' , she says, "I should have not tried to change you". She finds NAV a very trusting and helping individual.. as she herself was one of the strangers that were helped by him.

4. When she sees Abhi name (in the list)after a long time.. she feels scared as her peaceful life would end..

5. She considers Abhi a threat to her peaceful life and calls her door a border.

6. She clearly shows that she has not forgiven Abhi in all her 3 confrontations. (1. after the wedding, 2. Sirat apology, 3. mandir confession)

7. Her remembering the white day and her kasuali life during the Kalash ritual shows that she is still hurt by the white day.

8. She talks to kanhaji about dil vs dimaag when she finds out that Nav likes her. She still for god knows what reason loves Abhi but want to genuinely move on as she feels peaceful life is much more possible with Nav rather than Abhi.. She wants to be peaceful..

9. her becoming paro to her devdas Abhi shows that she *sighs* still loves him

After the leap it is clear that she wants a peaceful life and Udaipur arc it is clear that she wants move on but is still in love with Abhi and have not forgiven him.

But why? I am at loss...

Why can not she sing?

What stopped her from moving on before Udaipur?

These have been purposefully made open ended so that later they can justify the direction of story

Originally posted by: lagjagale

Her POV should not be her reaction to Abhi's stupid love declaration. She accused him and showed him the mirror; awesome! But what about her? Her POV should have been shown six years back. Then right after the leap, no one knows how she feels until she confronts Abhi ? You do see that she is being written entirely for the male leads, and that is the problem. And nothing about her guilt or repentance is discussed. She just says you should not have blamed me, which I agree with, but she must have felt bad about what happened beyond everyone else guilting her.

It's just bad writing..for abhimanyu , akshu and all others..they kept everything dubious as their direction is not set ..

She said "I accept all your blames but I don't accept your apology " . It's very simple. She was guilty but nothing really justifies on spot divorce.

When was Akshara's perspective EVER a thing in this show? 😆I said this to a friend and I say it here -- this show collects the majority of its trps when Akshara Goenka is the object of the prime mover's desires and NOT the prime mover of the story herself. Every time they've tried otherwise, the trps haven't backed their efforts. This reminds me how she was the prime mover -- initially of the first leap -- and how that didn't amount to anything in trps and how Garima went on an insta rant about 'soft heroines' and what not to eventually turn her into a softer version of sai from ghum and then reunite abhira in like two weeks. Again, this gen was ML centric from day one which meant they never took the pain to develop their FL. Abhimanyu's falling in love was still given a more consistent pov. Akshara didn't even care as much about him on day one and was head over heels in love before the gopi mask festival was over? The first time we found out how 'intensely' she loved 'abhi' was after she rejected him in Birla house and I had to scratch my head how and when that happened. Not the love, but its unrivaled intensity and soulmatism 🤔 Again, Akshara never really had POVs. The few times they made a half-hearted, botched effort to bring her center stage, it didn't work like it did with the previous gens because they'd put in zero effort into laying down a foundation with her. So them reverting to their og formula is what's happening here. She's probably also not getting a POV because it allows writers to keep everything open ended enough to take the story in any direction they please. It's so vague that no matter how crazy a theory I come across regarding her feelings I can still follow the person's line of reasoning because everything's open to interpretation. 😆 Meanwhile Akshara's back to being the object of desire of the prime mover(s) and the trps have yet to dip so I doubt any change's incoming.

Thank you for your post; I think it clearly explains the issue I was getting at. The soft heroine thing I haven't heard about. But I personally don't have an issue with weaker female characters ( as in characters who make poor decisions) as long as they show their motivations clearly so we know to like or dislike the character.

If they showed Ak as being a docile, submissive person who bent to Abhi's will from the beginning, the present narrative would make a lot of sense. I know that is the interpretation of people, but it's not explicitly shown from her POV. She never thinks of Abhi as her savior, why she loves him is a mystery, and she has been molded to fit whatever the narrative needed at the time.

But they also gave us glimpses of strong Akshu, if she was so submissive, how did she never succumb to Abhi's constant questioning of her feelings? Why did she go against her family for Abhi? Her loyalties are never clear. We think she is guilty about seerat ma, and so is bending down to Arohi, but we see the two sisters arguing in the beginning, and she does say you can't constantly bring up seerat ma to get your way. She is frequently mad at arohi but still shields her and sacrifices for her.

Then with Abhi the hand sacrifice track could have been shown amazingly. I don't think the trp tanked cause Ak was shown as strong, but cause they never gave a basis for her sacrifice. Why did she never try to contact Abhi? She could have at least written him letters without disclosing her location. Abhi didn't have to go through hell that one year, he could have been searching for her. It all just ended up being stupid, and then they wrapped it up super quickly cause of trp.

I agree with your post 100%