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Originally posted by: Kacchakela21

Manjari icchadhari pomeranian doggie hai.

Exactly! That woman was all the while blushing and coyly asking him to apply color on her. I was like, what were you even thinking, you stupid woman!

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

In Anupamaa-Anuj's situation, Anupamaa is the one who is wrong. That guy was depressed and shattered over losing his daughter. While made Anupamaa was happily celebrating the festival with her toxic ex-family and was forcing him to join her.

See, you are free to like Abhimanyu. That s a personal choice. But please don't twist other characters' narratives to prove your point. Neither Anuj nor Naitik ever mistreated their wife who suffered a miscarriage. They are actually good characters unlike Dr Birla

Nahi re, not creating any narratives. Just saying makers will do what they want to do to increase trps.

I've not said Anuj and Abhi are bhai bhai, I've said makers are doing what they did in yrkkh in anupama too which isnt entirely wrong.

Anupama was begging Anuj to not leave her, she was walking alone homeless with nowhere to go. Same way Akshara was walking alone with nowhere to go.

Why do they need to do this to their female leads as if they have no other option but be with a man?

The plot may be different but ideas are borrowed and if I'm the only one who can see this then well...

Naitik shouldn't be compared to Anuj, Abhi or Nav but koi nai.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

He knew that she loved him? How? She said no, right? Is Abhimanyu Birla a mind reader that he knew what she feels deeeeeeeeeep down inside of her that even she didn't? No, the only thing that his actions betray is, he did not respect her consent. Even if she did love him, he was neither entitled to those feelings nor did that give him the right to pressurise her to change her decision.

That's her consent and that should have been the end of it— morally and legally.

I am amazed how you are justifying a man violating the consent of a woman because his 'intentions were good'

Its not IF she loved him, she did love him and Abhi knew as soon as they had met in that trip which is why both were certain that Manjari had sent the proposal for Akshara only.

Also, I fail to see how it is consent when Akshara was lying. Consent doesn't involve lying. Again, I will use example of a girl being pressurised to marry. For sure she has consented that she will marry but in reality, it is a forced consent which is not real consent as it is not given freely and that is what was happening with Akshara.

If I'm not wrong, they did show Abhi knowing that Akshara was not being honest and he wanted to get to the root of it. He wasn't exactly forcing her to marry him, he was challenging her to be honest with herself and him hence the kyun kyun sequence because he wanted to know her reason which she did not have.

@Bold I know what your trying to say but I'm sorry, I do not think that was real consent and I've given my reasons above. It's not like I'm making things up, you can see episodes yourself to know Akshara was being manipulated by her sister.

Also, I don't think one should really be suggesting that the other person doesn't take the matter of consent seriously for a debate over a show where relying on a stranger over your own family, is promoted.

As a viewer, I understand Nav is a good guy and wise decision but if I were to ignore the show's justifiction and take it literally as you have taken Abhi's scenario then its atrocious to think people are defending Akshara's decision and encouraging girls to trust a random stranger.

Originally posted by: Silveraliax

Its not IF she loved him, she did love him and Abhi knew as soon as they had met in that trip which is why both were certain that Manjari had sent the proposal for Akshara only.

Also, I fail to see how it is consent when Akshara was lying. Consent doesn't involve lying. Again, I will use example of a girl being pressurised to marry. For sure she has consented that she will marry but in reality, it is a forced consent which is not real consent as it is not given freely and that is what was happening with Akshara.

If I'm not wrong, they did show Abhi knowing that Akshara was not being honest and he wanted to get to the root of it. He wasn't exactly forcing her to marry him, he was challenging her to be honest with herself and him hence the kyun kyun sequence because he wanted to know her reason which she did not have.

@Bold I know what your trying to say but I'm sorry, I do not think that was real consent and I've given my reasons above. It's not like I'm making things up, you can see episodes yourself to know Akshara was being manipulated by her sister.

Also, I don't think one should really be suggesting that the other person doesn't take the matter of consent seriously for a debate over a show where relying on a stranger over your own family, is promoted.

As a viewer, I understand Nav is a good guy and wise decision but if I were to ignore the show's justifiction and take it literally as you have taken Abhi's scenario then its atrocious to think people are defending Akshara's decision and encouraging girls to trust a random stranger.

This is what i am failing to understand why ppl are encouraging a decision of trusting stranger over family.

I agree akshu knew BP did not trusted her. But she had kairav , she had her college friends , she had vansh. Even her moms family could have been brought here.

She could have requested anyone to help her to set her things in some other city where she can stay alone or stay with them. But just because she heard bp saying something she just decided to leave everything.

Then with the same bp she is in touch from past 6 years. Ye kaunsa selective self respect and gussa hai jo chit chat karthe waqt nahin hotha but madath mangthe waqt hotha hai.

She literally married a stranger without even knowing consequences and ppl are justifying goenkas are bad so akshu had to take that decision.

Tbh both abhi and akshu's characters are ruined by makers on that day.

If ppl are saying abhinav is great for raising abhir who is his step son as obviously akshu married him post abhir birth then i will say abhi is great for taking care of roohi being a chacha. He does everything for her. Eventhough he hates arohi he did not disrespected her post neil passed away.

That shows on white day they had to ruin him to bring this leap and cameo. So why to call out only abhi's action and not akshu's.

Both abhira's decisions were incorrect and the sole reason to take that decision was to bring this leap and cameo.

Originally posted by: Silveraliax

Its not IF she loved him, she did love him and Abhi knew as soon as they had met in that trip which is why both were certain that Manjari had sent the proposal for Akshara only.

Also, I fail to see how it is consent when Akshara was lying. Consent doesn't involve lying. Again, I will use example of a girl being pressurised to marry. For sure she has consented that she will marry but in reality, it is a forced consent which is not real consent as it is not given freely and that is what was happening with Akshara.

If I'm not wrong, they did show Abhi knowing that Akshara was not being honest and he wanted to get to the root of it. He wasn't exactly forcing her to marry him, he was challenging her to be honest with herself and him hence the kyun kyun sequence because he wanted to know her reason which she did not have.

@Bold I know what your trying to say but I'm sorry, I do not think that was real consent and I've given my reasons above. It's not like I'm making things up, you can see episodes yourself to know Akshara was being manipulated by her sister.

Also, I don't think one should really be suggesting that the other person doesn't take the matter of consent seriously for a debate over a show where relying on a stranger over your own family, is promoted.

As a viewer, I understand Nav is a good guy and wise decision but if I were to ignore the show's justifiction and take it literally as you have taken Abhi's scenario then its atrocious to think people are defending Akshara's decision and encouraging girls to trust a random stranger.

It doesn't matter whether she did love him or not. She said no. A decent man would not feel entitled to challenge her to face or feelings or whatever. Is he her legal guardian or therapist? No. He did not respect her agency to decide for herself. End of story.

Funny how there is no problem in encouraging young girls to see men who flout their consent and gaslight their emotions to be a good-intentioned man but it is wrong to encourage young girls to trust men whose actions respect your consent in every way. Every person out of our bloodline is a random stranger at some point. Abhimanyu was a random stranger to her at one point. So lol

Originally posted by: solembaum

sorry that I am joining this debate out of the blue.. but Akshara did not donate Abhimanyu .. Akshara just decided that she does not want to get into a relationship that creates an issue with her sister which , good or bad, is a relationship she has had for years and irrespective of how the sister us, she values.. it was a legitimate decision .. She did not force Abhimanyu to get married to Arohi .. in fact even Manjari only says think about Arohi and it is Manjari and Abhimanyu’s own misunderstandings as well where they think she did all those things for Abhimanyu .. his family only tells him to agree for a marriage .. and no sane person would agree to marry sister of the girl you are still not over .. but no one forced him to agree for Arohi .. he could have said anyone but Arohi and Akshara .. I am sure there would have been girls .. then the first thing he does is go and tell Akshara as if he is taking revenge on her that he is marrying Arohi .. is that how a person who is genuinely trying to move on behaves? Why is it not allowed that a girl is free to make a choice to let go of a guy they fell in love with but did not have a relationship with for reasons which are legitimate to them? And the guy then goes about making every marriage event into an occasion to taint and poke the girl.. it was very clear that him deciding to marry Arohi was a shock for Akshara too .. but she tried to do what was right because the guy himself came and declared he wants to marry .. and then if he found Arohi’s fraud , instead of exposing that within the family and handling that without a public spectacle where the girl is dressed in bridal finery and you reach there with the sister declaring I never loved her .. he really messed up a lot of relationships that day .. if he wanted to force Akshara’s confession by saying GE will do something to himself , he could have done it after breaking off the marriage too .. but he needed to involve Akshara, get her to confess on the day of his wedding like he had no responsibility towards that wedding and screwed up so many things .. she was a very young girl then .. just finished probably her post graduation .. he is the more experienced man closer to thirty , an established cardiac surgeon and he did not know how to handle that situation better? He did not have the common sense to think how uncomfortable it would be to be married to the sister of the girl you will always love ? Akshara was very much within her rights to choose not to go ahead into a relationship with Abhimanyu although she had feelings for him.. only thing she did is she didn’t say she saved him from fire .. it is not like you have to marry anyone who saves you from fire right ? No one asked him to say yes to Arohi .. I think the responsibility for that decision and the subsequent mega mess upLies solely with Abhimanyu ..

It is a forum, you need not apologise.

Akshara knew Abhi loved her only. She also knew Arohi did not love him. Yet she wanted Abhi and Arohi together because she wanted Arohi to be happy. If that is not using him as a prop then I don't know what it is.

It may seem legitimate to you but to me, it came across as Akshara punishing herself to satisfy Arohi's demands. It's like she was trapped in arohis world whereby she needed arohis permission to even think about herself.

Also, lying about the fire thing wasn't okay either because it is fraudulent to change the facts of an incident. Akshara knew Abhi was not in love with Arohi and also knew that the fire thing had made him give Arohi a chance because that's when his faith in Akshara love had shattered yet she didn't disclose the truth because she didn't want to upset Arohi. Letting your sister lie and hiding the truth is basically misleading someone and toying with their emotions.

You have to learn to love and accept marriage - Akshara had given a crappy statement like this to Abhi on engagement day which was clearly telling him to compromise. She can say no to him but why encourage the marriage when she knew her sister didnt love him.

Why would Abhi be worried about a wedding to a girl who used Manjaris health as a tool to emotionally blackmail him, lied about saving him to get into his good books, severely abused her sister mentally to an extent that Akshara didn't feel worthy of marrying Abhi. Arohi didn't want marriage, she wanted a trophy husband and why would Abhi marry someone who was willing to lie about saving him? I mean why would people expect him to still marry a fraud?

You don't have to say yes to someone who saves you but both sisters knew that was a big factor that triggered him to say yes (along with manajris health) yet neither thought to tell him the truth.

Yes, Abhi was wrong to get Akshara to confess first. He should have done Arohi's aarti first and then asked Akshara to confess.

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

This is what i am failing to understand why ppl are encouraging a decision of trusting stranger over family.

I agree akshu knew BP did not trusted her. But she had kairav , she had her college friends , she had vansh. Even her moms family could have been brought here.

She could have requested anyone to help her to set her things in some other city where she can stay alone or stay with them. But just because she heard bp saying something she just decided to leave everything.

Then with the same bp she is in touch from past 6 years. Ye kaunsa selective self respect and gussa hai jo chit chat karthe waqt nahin hotha but madath mangthe waqt hotha hai.

She literally married a stranger without even knowing consequences and ppl are justifying goenkas are bad so akshu had to take that decision.

Tbh both abhi and akshu's characters are ruined by makers on that day.

If ppl are saying abhinav is great for raising abhir who is his step son as obviously akshu married him post abhir birth then i will say abhi is great for taking care of roohi being a chacha. He does everything for her. Eventhough he hates arohi he did not disrespected her post neil passed away.

That shows on white day they had to ruin him to bring this leap and cameo. So why to call out only abhi's action and not akshu's.

Both abhira's decisions were incorrect and the sole reason to take that decision was to bring this leap and cameo.

@Bold Lol. I didn't know this but it is funny 😆

I have no real problem with Akshara going off with nav who was a stranger because it's no use nit picking on such a show otherwise nothing would make sense. It's like they say leave ur brains outside the cinema when watching movies like houseful franchise.

In reality, it's a rather scary option to encourage to anyone but for this show, it makes sense.

Problem I had was Akshara was no poor girl, she had many options before nav and no reason is enough to justify why she didn't seek their help first. Forget Goenca, she had her mum and nanis house too.

Of course Abhi loves Ruhi. Hes had great bond with children since episode 1. Children wise, he is great.

@Bold2 I agree.

Originally posted by: Silveraliax

@Bold Lol. I didn't know this but it is funny 😆

I have no real problem with Akshara going off with nav who was a stranger because it's no use nit picking on such a show otherwise nothing would make sense. It's like they say leave ur brains outside the cinema when watching movies like houseful franchise.

In reality, it's a rather scary option to encourage to anyone but for this show, it makes sense.

Problem I had was Akshara was no poor girl, she had many options before nav and no reason is enough to justify why she didn't seek their help first. Forget Goenca, she had her mum and nanis house too.

Of course Abhi loves Ruhi. Hes had great bond with children since episode 1. Children wise, he is great.

@Bold2 I agree.

What's bad in wishing that as the writing itself was illogical and baseless.

Leap itself was illogical.

Akshu marrying him was also illogical.

Abhi acting out of character on that day was illogical.

Who bought divorce paper god knows 😂

Why goenka's were not present when their ladli daughters husband was killed because they wanted akshara to walk aimlessly to meet her future prospective.😆

Why goenkas did not even went to kasauli to meet akshu god knows. Aisa pariwar kaha hotha hai real life. Main.

These kind of family only exists when they want to bring in a leap 😂

Originally posted by: Deltablues

It doesn't matter whether she did love him or not. She said no. A decent man would not feel entitled to challenge her to face or feelings or whatever. Is he her legal guardian or therapist? No. He did not respect her agency to decide for herself. End of story.

Funny how there is no problem in encouraging young girls to see men who flout their consent and gaslight their emotions to be a good-intentioned man but it is wrong to encourage young girls to trust men whose actions respect your consent in every way. Every person out of our bloodline is a random stranger at some point. Abhimanyu was a random stranger to her at one point. So lol

End of story would have been if Abhi had walked off as a 'decent man'. This is not season 1 where Akshara's problem was not fitting into her wedding lengha. This is sesson 3 where Akshara's problem is whether she should wear her sister's wedding lengha in order to hide the fact that her sister has gone to take an exam that she bought.

And it does matter if she loves him or not because the whole crux of the consent depends on that fact. Abhi knew she was lying, it's not like he was disregarding her choice. It was because he was giving importance to her choice, that he pursued her to tell the truth.

In Kuch Kuch Hota Hain, Rahul and his fam go to Anjali's house on her wedding day despite anjali telling them she wants to marry Prem. If they had taken her consent seriously then Prem would never have found out that she truly loves Rahul and his life would have been wasted.

Another example is Hum apke hain kaun. It was Nisha's consent to marry her BIL but we all know it wasn't. If Tuffy had taken her consent literally and decided to honour it then Raj would never have found out the truth.

I have no problem with Nav and Akshara going with him. It was an example used to show that if we take every little thing literally then there would be no show and everything would become an issue because noone can know xyz will be a good man in the long run just in first meeting. Its okay for a show only but in real life, not the wisest choice. Same way, its okay for a show to see Abhi pursuing Akshara to be honest with herself but in real life, not very healthy.

If we see things literally then nothing is right on the show.

Abhi was a stranger but she didn't pack her bags and decide to trust him on day 1.