Things I support and things I don’t - Page 2

Originally posted by: apra

I want to just share my pov on the points you disagree and I might be wrong

1. Umar quaid point was said in context when he declared her a murderer and gave her a divorce as punishment and now without understanding his mistake he wants her back. Now akshata used to think about her family first but after the 2.0 or rather after she married him she tried to prioritize abhi and his family, she had effectively put a stop on her aarohi rant hadn't she.... But on the contrary did abhi stop his maa rant... No.... I understand they were in initial phase of marriage but akshu worked on the relationship and did abhi ever even during niel and aarohi wedding....

2. I agree akshu loves abhi but her life has shown her love is not enough it's trust and respect

3. She clearly says that abhinav talks with her discuss every issue and then they decide they are equal this is the respect she is talking about abhimanyu always decided for her....

4. Un the eyes of the society she is married and he should have respected that behind the closed doors is an issue between her and abhinav

5. She never took any decision in regards to aarohi and abhimanyu wedding in fact she clearly said it's aarohi ka decision so she is again asking him to think once about roohi

Hey thanks for replying…no worries on disagreement…no one is right or wrong here…as I said someone’s right is someone’s wrong…this show has become way too heavy …n there should be a space for people to lighten their thoughts n not get additional ddp in that process lol

1. Ok about Umar qaid I just responded to another fellow member just above …they are basing this off of the post Neil’s death ffuvirce day n that itself is a 180 flip for Abhimanyu’s character…it did not make sense to me back then do definitely the whole story built on that day won’t make sense yo me as a viewer personally…initially the justification I read was oh they need yo bring a leap …I mean if you ask me that’s super foolish…there are other ways to show marriage n post marriage drama…n thrn after keapthey kror on worsening it big by but to this day egfn they are calling it Umar qaid based off of divorce…what about his support before that…

2. Totally…n that’s why she should upfront say that yes I love you but I won’t live with you coz of trust respect etc …my OP just said when she says I don’t love you that’s a lie n forget Abhimanyu it’s not fair to sbhinsv as well

3. I shared my thoughts on this too in the post above…to justify the new. Hard yet n leap they changed the character of Abhimanyu in a second…he was the only one who respected n cared for her …her when her own fsmily didn’t …actually they still don’t…so when a dialogue comes you never respected …that’s well not true

4. I responded to this too…you guys do have similar thoughts lol …I might be the odd one out here…yeah I don’t support the proposal here as well…my OP did indicate that …what I had objections to was sindoor dialogues…she is not giving the marriage n di door it’s due herself …n that was the farce I was pointing out
5. She does say you should go n move on with Aarohi n think about roohi …I don’t think it was needed especially since she herself said donor comment on how I feel or who I love or what I should do (n all rightfully so) but it’s a two way street …she needs to practice tgat herself too

again just my thoughts…but I appreciate y’all responding…it helps yo type all this out lol …dimagh ka dahi kar diya hai inlogon ney …they need to bring a comic relief …

And very early into their marriage, when his parents were fighting, he had spoken about their marriage being a mistake (when they had taken shelter in a broken garage during a rainstorm). His first instinct in the face of a problem in their relationship is to break the relationship itself. Why would anyone want to go back to a marriage like that?

Originally posted by: Tani16

Akshara refers to her relationship as umar kaid as she pertains to Abhimanyu as her jailor. Because she feels she does not have agency in her relationship as Abhimanyu decided the course of their marriage. He wants her first, then he divorces her twice impulsively without talking to her and then wants her back. He doesn't want to work on their relationship, he wants to finish it instantly. This ties to respect, Abhimanyu didn't respect her to listen to her but simply accused her and kicked her out. It's not an equal relationship-like she said he would never have divorced Neil but was able to instantly divorce her.

For Abhimanyu, Akshara is married and has a child. That's crossing boundaries. Akshara, Abhinav and Abhir are a family. The marriage may be on paper only, but the family is not. Abhimanyu was extremely disrespectful towards that. Abhinav has always treated Abhimanyu well and had tried to make Akshara comfortable when dealing with her ex and ex sasural. Akshara recognizes that.

Why does everyone think that because Akshara and Abhinav are not in a straightforward marriage, she will easily return to Abhimanyu? She has a commitment, a family and a platonic love for Abhinav. How can she abandon him easily? Right now Akshara is the one tightly holding on Abhinav more than Abhinav tightly holding onto her. She has no inclination to get together with Abhimanyu because to her, they are over.

@ BOLD: That right there! Abhinav has been a good man and husband person since him and Akshara first met. For Gods sake he carried her in a basket to the hospital when she was in labor!
She may not have loved him before, but I feel since watching the return to Udaipur episodes the love between them can grow. Akshara deserves a husband that puts her and their child first, and Abhinav has shown her that from the beginning.
Also, you are right! Abhimanyu is very impulsive!

edit: awww man, I saw today’s episode and the precap :(

I wonder what happens next…

Originally posted by: pagalkajal

@ BOLD: That right there! Abhinav has been a good man and husband person since him and Akshara first met. For Gods sake he carried her in a basket to the hospital when she was in labor!
She may not have loved him before, but I feel since watching the return to Udaipur episodes the love between them can grow. Akshara deserves a husband that puts her and their child first, and Abhinav has shown her that from the beginning.
Also, you are right! Abhimanyu is very impulsive!

edit: awww man, I saw today’s episode and the precap :(

I wonder what happens next…

Well , akshu loving abhinav in "abhira" style is not at all imp , as long as abhinav loves akshara and respects her...for marriage to sustain and to bring up a child , this much is sufficient .

Why do we demand or in clear words "dare" akshu to love abhinav ? Is it bec we r so concerned for abhinav or is it bec we're so sure akshu won't love anyone except abhimanyu? What If akshu proves everybody wrong and she whole heartedly accepts abhinav as her husband ? These 6 yrs she was abs fine till abhimanyu came and stirred up the past...I think now akshu has the closure that she wanted and she is ready to move on with abhinav.

Very true..plus how can we negate the fact that she made sure abhir has a father figure in his life ?

We saw in s2 , naira raised kairav alone , away from kartik, but the child was always craving for a father ...

Akshu wasn't ready for love / wifey role after the trauma she experienced , and abhinav was understanding enuf to not demand any such thing , inspite of loving her . For him aksharas wish is Supreme.. he has been a great father to abhir ..her decision to trust a stranger over her family was abs correct ...

Also we got the reply why she hid abhirs paternity ..if she stayed in Udaipur, she will be pressured to accept abhimanyu, he would have hovered around her Luke a satellite , ulta Latko from all Udaipur tress and come under every bus , just so that akshu says yes to remarry him . If he can do it in this position where he knows akshu has a husband and family, what will he do if he knows she is single and has a son with him ? I said this earlier n repeat it , her decision to hide abhir is totally justified .

Originally posted by: Pr1yanka

Lol not that anyone cares but after watching so much heartache need yo vent somewhere so please bear with me

things I support:

👍🏼Akshara giving reality check to Abhimanyu ✅ very much needed

👍🏼Akshara saying would you have divorced Neil if I had died ✅💯

👍🏼Akshara saying you divorced me twice impulsively n now impulsively you express your love ✅

things I don’t support

👎🏼Akshara calling abhi akshu relationship Umar qaid …big NO …Umar qaid wali relationships waalon sey poochho kya hoti hai Umar qaid wali relationship …the issue with abhi akshu relationship was letting a third person come in between them earlier Akshara used to bring her family later Abhimanyu used to bring his mom n rest birlas one by one…two is company three is crowd…all you had to do was understand that n resolve it instead of impulsively divorcing n impulsively leaving the house …in a marriage not everything is hunky dory all the time…quoting monika geller from friends…you need to work hard on your relationship…some days you have to work extra hard….this deserves a separate topic

👎🏼Akshara claiming she doesn’t love Abhimanyu…simply coz it is safed jhooth lol

👎🏼akshara saying she never got respect in her relationship …that’s not true…maybe the writers forgot their own or someone else’s creation since the team keeps changing every day …Abhimanyu always respected Akshara more then anyone else…if she has forgotten he was the one who supported her to come out of the emotional trauma of Aarohi n goenkas …but Ofcourse in one day they made him undo everything he did before by cslling her a murderer n responsible for her death …but before the 180 flip yes he gave you plenty respect

👎🏼Akshara telling Abhimanyu you are speaking to a married lady…but are you really married…or is this a relationship of convenience at the cost of sbhinsv’s happiness? Why doesn’t he deserve to be a husband like how she had Abhimanyu as a husband…why does this realization come after coming to Udaipur? So when akshara was drowning in Abhimanyu’s thoughts in kasauli hence her changed demeanor what was that…sindoor ki lakeer kahan thi tab …also who writes such dialogues in todays day n age…time to get a fresh crop of writers DKP …please don’t hire from ekta’s team

👎🏼Akshara telling Abhimanyu to move on with roohi n aarohi but tells Abhimanyu merri feelings ka decision tum mat lo…girl, then you also don’t take his life’s decisions on his behalf …fact of the matter us you are still fighting g like a husband n wife…whether you like it or not

Anyways I salute you if you have reached the end of this long rant …don’t fret if you don’t agree with me…take it as musings of a broken heart if you will 😊

Bravo Priyanka. Thank you for detailing the confrontation but mainly the Abhira part. I actually didnt watch the episode based on twitter feedback, where they said there was an overdose of Nav glorification.

After reading your post I am so glad I didnt. I was actually looking forward to this confrontation because I had hoped she would talk about everything he said and did in anger that day, but looks like it was about their entire journey being a mistake.

I blame the dialogue writers here not the character. They seem to have clearly forgotten what they have shown

- A life with a man who freed her from years of abuse was Umar qaid🤬. And she is happy having given up her identity which was her singing. Have the makers forgotten what they have previously shown

- Akshara claiming she doesnt love him in front of Mahadev, what can I say. Mockery of bhagawan again.

- 100% agree with you. She appears to have wiped away everything about his love and the extreme lengths he went to protect and fight for. I am not too annoyed with this because sometimes bad memories take away all good memories

- I get that she is married or considers herself married, then why did she run to his rescue, why didnt she think about her husband when she was cradling and crying for him.

- Her asking Abhimanyu to move on with Arohi and Ruhi but stay away from saying anything to her, that is hypocrisy.

Where to from here for Abhira?

Originally posted by: Pr1yanka

agreed what they have shown as how Akshara feels but they conveniently forgot it us the same guy who did everything he could to get her to live her own life ..sometimes a lil too extra but definitely did a lot…cared for her, supportive of her career , aisey partners key saath Umar qaid waale dialogues suit nahi kartey imo…but of course what happened at Neil’s death uspar base karke keh rahe hain which as I said they made their character take a 180 flip

as far as Abhimanyu’s proposal is concerned yeah I agree …I never gave a thumbs up to that …I agree…plus the whole thing sounded flippant …but that was giving way for Akshara yo give him a reality check …they could shown him understand himself …but I guess when Akshara gives a reality check to him that makes for more drama n I liked that

I’m not sure if you are generally speaking or addressing yo me tgat akshara should easily go to Abhimanyu…but I’ll respond since the reply was yo my post lol ..I definitely did not directly or indirectly hint towards that …but I do believe that if Abhimanyu is not able to see clearly so is Akshara n my reasons are mentioned in my OP

That's what she meant...Good or bad, love or anger, it was always his decision only in that marriage...And its only after having the life with Abhinav that she got the choice to decide her life...Love is there, but to accept that and return or hide that and stay away...her choice...to have a platonic marriage with Abhinav, take it to next level or end it and go back to Abhi...Her choice...Goenkas or Birlas or Abhi never wanted to give her any choice...they always want to decide whats right for little old Akshu...Abhimanyu still is proposing like yo baby, I have decided I love u again so I am offering u the great opportunity to come back to me leaving ur marriage and u should accept my offer...No proper regret, no grovelling, no realisation still...no begging to come back even...

Pata nehi ye new wale writers capable hai ya nehi...but before they unite Abhira...he needs to realise his mistakes, her point of view, and beg and grovel and regret and believe he has lost her to abhinav and be ok with it if thats her choice...Only after that if something happens and she comes back it will be justified...Wish the redeem Abhi and Akshu properly the way they ruined them properly...but dont know if yrkkh writers are capable anymore...

Originally posted by: Krinya

this is not reply to your post but what akshu said , bec I watch the epis late .

Idc if akshu is lying abt her marital status or not..abhimanyu knows nothing abt it so he has no right to claim his "love" back . Holds true even if she is single.

It's not akshu deciding for him , it's his decision to marry arohi for ruhi so he must honour it .

At least once she ranted abt respect ..trust and respect is all about accepting each other as they are ..in good times and bad ..in their times together akshu was 24x7 trying to solve the riddles "anything bad happens its always aksharas mistake " . Abhimanyu ka hand , akshu ki Wajah se , Neil ka khulasa, akshu ki wajah se, manjari ka divorce , akshu ki wajah se , akshu arranged a party , akshu did wrong , akshu let manjari take a decision, akshu ki galti , anisha died , akshu ki galti , Neil died , akshu ki galti, twins died , akshu ki galti , Neil aroo get married , akshu ki galti . Akshu not complying to abhimanyus "orders" to tc , akshu ki galti . Where is respect in all this ?

This reminds me of Aamir s dialogue in taare zameen par..what does love mean ? That if a child does a mistake the parent hugs them and say koi baat nai beta galti hui, main hoon na....

In the end , love or no love ,marriage or no marriage is insignificant ..its her "choice " and her consent which matters ...

If we say she will eat up her words and crawl back to abhimanyu ? Idc now if she does . At least the writers can show abhinanyus realisation/redemption during that time ? Ya uski zaroorat hi nai hai🤢

Girl, 👏👏👏

Thank you for saying all of this. There was no respect in their relationship. Ever. Period. What it was was love bombing. It was always about Abhimanyu's convenience. The only thing I can recall he supported her on was her singing. For everything else, he needed proof. Her word was never enough.

Respect also entails trying to understand other person's POV, their concerns, and their circumstances. Did he ever? All he did was boss her around like she was his minion. If, God forbid, she ever did something he asked her not to because she couldn't help herself, something which was not even morally wrong, he'd be upset. For instance, the time she confronted Aroohi, her little sister before she became her devrani, about faking pregnancy. Another example is when she spoke for HIS mother when Manjari was not yet willing to divorce Harsh. If he respected her, he would have, at least, listened to her POV before declaring she was wrong. There have been so many instances in such a short span where he absolutely shunned her without ever giving her a chance.

People here claim this would be Abhimanyu's second chance. Girls, wake up. He has had multiple "second" chances. If he had to change, consider her feelings, consider the feelings of others involved besides his mum (though this time not even her— which is kinda delightful, NGL), he would have done that long ago. The only person Abhimanyu Birla cares about is Abhimanyu Birla. I would have called him a Narcissist if I didn't know any better. But I wouldn't rule out BPD just yet.

It's still okay if people still want them to somehow miraculously end up together, but acknowledge his faults at least. Call a spade a spade. Please, don't justify his behavior. And yes, it's very much toxic. Recognize that.

Originally posted by: Tani16

Akshara refers to her relationship as umar kaid as she pertains to Abhimanyu as her jailor. Because she feels she does not have agency in her relationship as Abhimanyu decided the course of their marriage. He wants her first, then he divorces her twice impulsively without talking to her and then wants her back. He doesn't want to work on their relationship, he wants to finish it instantly. This ties to respect, Abhimanyu didn't respect her to listen to her but simply accused her and kicked her out. It's not an equal relationship-like she said he would never have divorced Neil but was able to instantly divorce her.

For Abhimanyu, Akshara is married and has a child. That's crossing boundaries. Akshara, Abhinav and Abhir are a family. The marriage may be on paper only, but the family is not. Abhimanyu was extremely disrespectful towards that. Abhinav has always treated Abhimanyu well and had tried to make Akshara comfortable when dealing with her ex and ex sasural. Akshara recognizes that.

Why does everyone think that because Akshara and Abhinav are not in a straightforward marriage, she will easily return to Abhimanyu? She has a commitment, a family and a platonic love for Abhinav. How can she abandon him easily? Right now Akshara is the one tightly holding on Abhinav more than Abhinav tightly holding onto her. She has no inclination to get together with Abhimanyu because to her, they are over.

Beautifully articulated response 👏 👏 👏