Cv's changing the character graph?

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Posted: 7 years ago
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It does seem to me like that.Can't say about others.

From the very beginning of this track,everything was very messed up in the name of twist and turns.I will not talk about those several times discussed issues- negligence of family members regarding Shubham's weak mental condition,him being prone to suicidal act was never noticed by his so called mother,kaira's inconsistency while dealing the whole incident,The Null impact of such a big joint family and what more!!!These all have been disscussed several times.Leaving these now.

IT ALWAYS TAKES TWO TO TANGO,no matter how the situation is.The only difference arises according to circumstances that,sometimes one hand gets the upper Position.But here in the show,it is now showing like both of them have same screaming disorders,not understanding each other's point,not giving the frontperosn any chance to talk when one is thinking he/she is the best in getting the view.

When clearly this is not.ATLEAST NOT TO ME.

I strongly condemn Karthik to the most mistakes of their relationship right now.I am not bringing any old incident of theirs.

She did what she wanted to.You r not supposed to break your promise that you made to someone if not to your husband and he needs to get it in his head that not everything is shareable.I know drug addiction about his brother is smthng not trivial bt she made a promise to him that she wouldn't disclose it to others untill Shubham takes the initiative .Obviously,she will not get any kind of dream that Shubham will die the next day.Promise is important but Naira had promised karthik before that she wouldn't hide anything between them then she shouldn't have made the 2nd promise to Shubham.So,clearly it's Naira's fault while mixing these promises.


Now,coming to point,K strongly belives Naira doesn't trust him and thats why she has hidden the truth.What rubbish!!!If he knew about the drugs that day only,Could he give any surety of saving his brother?He couldn't cz death is INEVITABLE And NOTHING CAN STOP IT FROM COMING.

K needs to get the thing out of his mind that Naira is supposed to share each and every detail with him if the thing is not about them.Suppose,tomorrow if keerti falls in any problem and she finds it more convenient to share it to Naira than Kartik and the next day she falls in trouble for the same problem ,so will all the responsibilities fall on Naira?According to K,maybe yes!!If that is the case,then k needs to grow up not his wife.

But SUDDENLY,after the latest episodes it seems like Cv's r making Naira in equal fault part too.Her screaming and muting their shouting part showed like both r so child and fighting over any kind of candy and both r kind of inconsiderate.And then the Nani shouting:child r making mistakes,so why didn't all stop them-this was her question.It also seemed a mockery to me.They clearly can't stand each other and then even if all stop them,what will be gained by it?Living separately for eternity but not having divorce?What needs to be done should have been done long before.This big joint family just lecture and do nothing and they r perfect in this(Cz only kaira bring TRPs so only kaira have the right to be in action.Crap!!)


Cv's r planning a redemption track for Naira when she doesn't need it except a heartfelt apology that she needs to earn from herself for not fighting back for her relationship with grace two years back.She should have slapped K and brought the shits out of him and his mother by standing on her points loudly(No apology for hiding as she clearly maintained her promise and Shubham death has not any culprit rather himself).K needs a track of redemption whereas Naira is being shown as in the bad books of audience by reacting for no reason when Swarna was just going to ask R dadi.She could have handled the matter nicely when she knew Goenka's doesnt have the nature of handing anything.

All I am seeing is a Kaira reunion with a sorry from each other and A I LOVE YOU note.As Naira is also being at fault by them(Shown by the Makers)

Not expecting such reunion!!


P.s-this is my first post about this track.Constructive discussion will be appreated.




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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree with you completely and this is something I have been discussing with Priyanka. All of a sudden, the CVs have twisted the plot around to make it seem like the underlying issue for this whole track is Kaira's immaturity and stubbornness. Everything else has been whitewashed; all allegations, insults, misunderstandings forgotten. I feel like CVs just want to wrap up this track so they are making it seem like both were equally wrong. This way they get to cover up for letting all this drama go too far.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Forget K,naira herself seems to forget her own sufferings
Edited by tasnimrayian - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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i feel annoyed with the logic of it all
Naira gave him divorce papers to cause him less pain...
But +_+ is she not causing him more pain by leaving him and not telling him why...Its like she forgot the reason for the divorce all together but i feel seeing him so much probably made her weak as for fighting with kartik and suwarna i think after the club scene naira ddn have any conversation with kartik and seeing the person she loved with someone else like that was bound to create an outburst
Which i felt was the scene where they both fought...
Kartik is always like a guard dog between his family and naira which was shown in every function which i find so idiotic like shes going to go and stab one of them if he leaves her alone long enough +_+

I feel that the cvs dont really have a proper direction with the track...
So many things just are left hanging in the air randomly
some scenes dont have conclusions
and are really abrupt


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnyaRSingh

i feel annoyed with the logic of it all

Naira gave him divorce papers to cause him less pain...
But +_+ is she not causing him more pain by leaving him and not telling him why...Its like she forgot the reason for the divorce all together but i feel seeing him so much probably made her weak as for fighting with kartik and suwarna i think after the club scene naira ddn have any conversation with kartik and seeing the person she loved with someone else like that was bound to create an outburst
Which i felt was the scene where they both fought...
Kartik is always like a guard dog between his family and naira which was shown in every function which i find so idiotic like shes going to go and stab one of them if he leaves her alone long enough +_+

I feel that the cvs dont really have a proper direction with the track...
So many things just are left hanging in the air randomly
some scenes dont have conclusions
and are really abrupt



In future,things will be left like this actuall y.They have any story or r they just increasing the episode is the real question for me!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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This is not new, they've done this in past also, when Mansi track was being wrapped, Kartik cried and begged and he and his family was forgiven by Singhanias in a DAY. Naira may be took some more time but even in that Kartik went off raging mad, oh she doesn't trust me, now she will apologize. Which she did.. again it was his bday, she dressed as a freaking clown and apologized.
The only time I remember Kartik saying sorry and not making Naira guilty about it was during Keesh wedding track. Rest most of the times, she ends up saying sorry no matter who is at fault.
It's CVs love for Kartik - the best male lead, they will always make the audience sympathize with him. When he got drunk, ppl actually said - oh he is dreaming about her he loves her so much, he is drunk on her love. Erm hell no. God forbid if Naira talks to a guy, he will assume she has moved on and next scene u will see him making out with a random girl.. but hey.. CVs will make sure the audience notices how he is remembering Naira while making out with some one else. Kitna pyar karta hai 😭

Point is, Kartik kabhi galat nahi ho sakta. Me and Mauli discussed the same thing. Naira hamesha galat, Kartik hamesha sahi.

Just look at this week.. from everyone wanting Kartik's redemption.. all of us are here hoping for a miracle that they don't get divorced. CVs have smartly deviated the audience's anger, now am waiting for them to make it all look like Naira's fault actually, maybe they'll show some CCTV footage that Naira was indeed the master of drug peddlers Honestly I wouldn't put this past the CVs, they'll do anything to white wash Kartik and blame Naira.

I mean how is it okay for him to call a murderer and still she is apologizing? 😕
Abhi itna raita failaa diya, they have no idea what the hell to do with Kartik's realization, so the easy way out it, make Naira behave stupidly, she will apologize and Kartik will again become mahan, because he forgave her.

And really it wasn't as if she knew he would take overdose and die, he asked for a day, and she gave him. Like, Karitk made a promise to Naira that he won't drink.. LOOK WHAT HE DID HIMSELF. He not only drank, created a scene and behaved like a jerk. Why has he been hiding his drinking habit from his family??? Hypocrite. Bata do sabko aur piyo. Then let the family members decide what to do with your sorry ass.

Anyway, point is.. according to me this divorce drama was created because CVs have no idea what to do with Kartik anymore. Naira the scapegoat of Goenkas and writers is here, why worry 🥱

Otherwise what explains the jump of six months in 3 weeks? 😕
Edited by vellainsaan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mauli09

I agree with you completely and this is something I have been discussing with Priyanka. All of a sudden, the CVs have twisted the plot around to make it seem like the underlying issue for this whole track is Kaira's immaturity and stubbornness. Everything else has been whitewashed; all allegations, insults, misunderstandings forgotten. I feel like CVs just want to wrap up this track so they are making it seem like both were equally wrong. This way they get to cover up for letting all this drama go too far.


Because they have no idea how to make Kartik realise his faults, I know writers ko Kartik mein flaws na dikhte hain na woh dikhana chahte hain but still. That leg injury revelation was such a bummer. Like itna build up for what - blaming Naira for not telling him that she had an accident. What difference did it make in his life AFTER she did tell him - ZERO!

Pathetic!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: vellainsaan

This is not new, they've done this in past also, when Mansi track was being wrapped, Kartik cried and begged and he and his family was forgiven by Singhanias in a DAY. Naira may be took some more time but even in that Kartik went off raging mad, oh she doesn't trust me, now she will apologize. Which she did.. again it was his bday, she dressed as a freaking clown and apologized.

The only time I remember Kartik saying sorry and not making Naira guilty about it was during Keesh wedding track. Rest most of the times, she ends up saying sorry no matter who is at fault.
It's CVs love for Kartik - the best male lead, they will always make the audience sympathize with him. When he got drunk, ppl actually said - oh he is dreaming about her he loves her so much, he is drunk on her love. Erm hell no. God forbid if Naira talks to a guy, he will assume she has moved on and next scene u will see him making out with a random girl.. but hey.. CVs will make sure the audience notices how he is remembering Naira while making out with some one else. Kitna pyar karta hai 😭

Point is, Kartik kabhi galat nahi ho sakta. Me and Mauli discussed the same thing. Naira hamesha galat, Kartik hamesha sahi.

Just look at this week.. from everyone wanting Kartik's redemption.. all of us are here hoping for a miracle that they don't get divorced. CVs have smartly deviated the audience's anger, now am waiting for them to make it all look like Naira's fault actually, maybe they'll show some CCTV footage that Naira was indeed the master of drug peddlers Honestly I wouldn't put this past the CVs, they'll do anything to white wash Kartik and blame Naira.

I mean how is it okay for him to call a murderer and still she is apologizing? 😕
Abhi itna raita failaa diya, they have no idea what the hell to do with Kartik's realization, so the easy way out it, make Naira behave stupidly, she will apologize and Kartik will again become mahan, because he forgave her.

And really it wasn't as if she knew he would take overdose and die, he asked for a day, and she gave him. Like, Karitk made a promise to Naira that he won't drink.. LOOK WHAT HE DID HIMSELF. He not only drank, created a scene and behaved like a jerk. Why has he been hiding his drinking habit from his family??? Hypocrite. Bata do sabko aur piyo. Then let the family members decide what to do with your sorry ass.

Anyway, point is.. according to me this divorce drama was created because CVs have no idea what to do with Kartik anymore. Naira the scapegoat of Goenkas and writers is here, why worry 🥱

Otherwise what explains the jump of six months in 3 weeks? 😕


This is exactly my point!!

I am sure after some episods,It may show Naira begging to k for apology as she has done a big sin of hiding things
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: tasnimrayian


This is exactly my point!!

I am sure after some episods,It may show Naira begging to k for apology as she has done a big sin of hiding things


Hiding what? My god she decided to tell her husband a day LATER. She wasn't planning on hiding anything. There is a difference. Hiding is what Akhilesh did. Oh went a step further, got the blame of murder transferred from his daughter on someone else.

I don't see Karitk having any problem with that anymore. Why?
Own blood can be forgiven but not a spouse?

Sometimes I really want an answer from writer. Why do they make Kartik so glaringly hypocrite?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: tasnimrayian

It does seem to me like that.Can't say about others.

From the very beginning of this track,everything was very messed up in the name of twist and turns.I will not talk about those several times discussed issues- negligence of family members regarding Shubham's weak mental condition,him being prone to suicidal act was never noticed by his so called mother,kaira's inconsistency while dealing the whole incident,The Null impact of such a big joint family and what more!!!These all have been disscussed several times.Leaving these now.

IT ALWAYS TAKES TWO TO TANGO,no matter how the situation is.The only difference arises according to circumstances that,sometimes one hand gets the upper Position.But here in the show,it is now showing like both of them have same screaming disorders,not understanding each other's point,not giving the frontperosn any chance to talk when one is thinking he/she is the best in getting the view.

When clearly this is not.ATLEAST NOT TO ME.

I strongly condemn Karthik to the most mistakes of their relationship right now.I am not bringing any old incident of theirs.

She did what she wanted to.You r not supposed to break your promise that you made to someone if not to your husband and he needs to get it in his head that not everything is shareable.I know drug addiction about his brother is smthng not trivial bt she made a promise to him that she wouldn't disclose it to others untill Shubham takes the initiative .Obviously,she will not get any kind of dream that Shubham will die the next day.Promise is important but Naira had promised karthik before that she wouldn't hide anything between them then she shouldn't have made the 2nd promise to Shubham.So,clearly it's Naira's fault while mixing these promises.


Now,coming to point,K strongly belives Naira doesn't trust him and thats why she has hidden the truth.What rubbish!!!If he knew about the drugs that day only,Could he give any surety of saving his brother?He couldn't cz death is INEVITABLE And NOTHING CAN STOP IT FROM COMING.

K needs to get the thing out of his mind that Naira is supposed to share each and every detail with him if the thing is not about them.Suppose,tomorrow if keerti falls in any problem and she finds it more convenient to share it to Naira than Kartik and the next day she falls in trouble for the same problem ,so will all the responsibilities fall on Naira?According to K,maybe yes!!If that is the case,then k needs to grow up not his wife.

But SUDDENLY,after the latest episodes it seems like Cv's r making Naira in equal fault part too.Her screaming and muting their shouting part showed like both r so child and fighting over any kind of candy and both r kind of inconsiderate.And then the Nani shouting:child r making mistakes,so why didn't all stop them-this was her question.It also seemed a mockery to me.They clearly can't stand each other and then even if all stop them,what will be gained by it?Living separately for eternity but not having divorce?What needs to be done should have been done long before.This big joint family just lecture and do nothing and they r perfect in this(Cz only kaira bring TRPs so only kaira have the right to be in action.Crap!!)


Cv's r planning a redemption track for Naira when she doesn't need it except a heartfelt apology that she needs to earn from herself for not fighting back for her relationship with grace two years back.She should have slapped K and brought the shits out of him and his mother by standing on her points loudly(No apology for hiding as she clearly maintained her promise and Shubham death has not any culprit rather himself).K needs a track of redemption whereas Naira is being shown as in the bad books of audience by reacting for no reason when Swarna was just going to ask R dadi.She could have handled the matter nicely when she knew Goenka's doesnt have the nature of handing anything.

All I am seeing is a Kaira reunion with a sorry from each other and A I LOVE YOU note.As Naira is also being at fault by them(Shown by the Makers)

Not expecting such reunion!!


P.s-this is my first post about this track.Constructive discussion will be appreated.


@ red my views exactly. I am also irritated to the core for their audacity to put Naira in the same frame as Karthik when it comes to sharing the blame.
Do they know the word Harassment? Be it freshers party, or class room days, Or when his Dadi got hit by students, or when the rings went missing this is what he is doing-Humiliating Naira.Even went on to call her Chheee... Which is a utter disgrace!

Naira never disgraced their relationship. She respected it for their beautiful past together but Karthik never showed any humanity.

You are very right in saying that Naira owes an apology to no one but herself that too for the passion and love that she has for him. Where as Karthik needs to suffer in misery for the profundity of his maltreatment. He literary exploited Niara.

But its utterly disappointing to see the opposite. As with Nani's entry it ha sbecome very predicatbel.
It reminds me of Akshra's nani who dragged Akshra/Rajshree at Singhnaiya sadan and asked her to touch their feet and apologize.🤢


I hate it when they ruin an intense scene by adding uncalled comic elements. Its beyond me to tolearte this combination of serious and petty. For example-The thief scene wherein Karthik called Naira disgusting and then in the next scene he was gaga ''How dare you touch my Naira' and they were having their so called cute Nok Jhonk!🤢

I fear they are going to do it again. Nani and Keerti would make a silly team with silly plans which can give comic pleasure to many of forum friends but to me it would be gross and petty. I have zero tolerance for negativity left uncured.

Don't want a comic Kaira reunion. I did not like the holi sequence of Natik Akshra, though I loved that whole separation track. But that bhaang track killed the intensity of the track.




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