This is not Love....and it will not last 17/8

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Sounds less-than-pleasing to the ears, right? But that is the truth.

What we are getting to see between Karthik and Naira (I somehow don't feel like addressing them as Kaira anymore) is not love...at least, not from Kartik's lens of blaming, not taking responsibility, not even giving his wife the time of the day to complete one single sentence in her defense. They have gotten so distant from each other, I have no idea how they'll ever be the same again? But given Kartik's refusal to see HIS mistakes, I don't even think I want them to be alright...it is so toxic, so unhealthy to see them communicate these days. All love lost now, and even mutual respect..kis cheez ke liye saath rahenge yeh?

Hi everybody!

I am new to the YRKKH forum, been an old-timer on IF since the time I started reviewing YHM (Yeh Hai Mohabbatein) posts, which, I am incidentally reminded of today, as I see Karthik and Naira fight like bulldogs at war.

To be honest, I am not a regular YRKKH viewer, and happened to watch a little before pre-leap (around the time Shubham died) and have been watching the show regularly since then because I felt there was a lot of drama coming ahead. I was right in a way, but I'm certain I underestimated it...post-leap episodes have thrown up a LOT MORE DRAMA than can be digested, but most of which doesn't make sense.

I will not launch into the hows and whys of that, as other members on this forum have likely discussed it to bits, and eloquently at that, and I dont think I can add much to it.

What I would like to discuss is Kartik's so-called "love for Naira. I am compelled to make this post, because, right after he AGAIN said "I hate you Naira in full public view, he had that lost puppy dog look in his eyes when the divorce lawyers said they had to attend court proceedings today for the final hearing of the divorce. "Na keh do na Naira. Really? So you get innumerable chances to treat her like the dirt on your shoe for the rest of your life?

Like everybody else, I wanted these two to get back, but only after Kartik's redemption. Now I just don't want Kartik's redemption, I want Naira to leave him, abandon him, and move away to a faraway country and come back twice as successful as this chipmunk is. I want someone to love Naira so madly, deeply, truly, that it makes Kartik drink himself into oblivion thinking of the blunder he committed. I also want Swarna to be shown the mirror, and Goenkas (especially Manish) avoiding her like plague. Even better, I want Manish to abandon Swarna for ruining his son's life, but not by divorcing her.

She should know what it feels like to be legally still married, but feel so distant from one's spouse.

Pray tell me, who amongst you sees love in Kartik's eyes? The way he looks at her each time that witch stepmom of his is around (or even when she is not around and there is some reminder of his drug addict brother flashing through his brain), he seems to catch a brainwave and turn into this completely unrecognizable being...he looks at Naira with hatred, so much repulsion, disgust, mistrust, that it shocks me when he later pretends he actually gives a damn about her...because it then feels so empty...so pointless...such a big fat lie.

He cannot forgive her for what happened, WITHOUT even giving her a chance to EXPLAIN herself. What kind of human being does that? All the marriage vows he had taken at the mandap, they are all ground to dust, because he could not stay by his wife's side when she most needed him. At her most vulnerable, he abandoned her, did not bother calling her even once in these 2 years, and treats her like vermin every chance he gets. He hits her where it hurts the most. He crushes her like sandpaper.

How is this love?

You can be angry with your spouse, you can be annoyed with their quirks/mistakes/slip-ups and not talk to them properly for days or weeks, but will you pierce their heart in the same place over and over and over again, just so they don't forget they ever goofed up? And do this for years and years? Will you not take in for even a moment the hurt and pain caused to them, and talk it out? Will you pronounce them guilty for something they cannot possibly be held solely responsible? Will you turn a blind eye to the faults of others and peripheral circumstances and throw them out of your life because of a misconception you've had? And after ALL OF THIS will you expect THEM to still stick around?

If you do, then you don't treat your spouse like a human being, you treat them like a doormat.

And if Naira even agrees to the 6 month period, or is forced to re-marry this jerk (for whatever reason), that will be the message sent out to the hundreds of married men and women watching this sick show, which is apparently based on "Nayi Soch but is promoting regressive marital politics to its depths.

When Naira looks at Kartik, through all the anger, hurt, yelling, her eyes mist over, her brain feels clouded, and she seems like she still is clinging to some invisible ray of hope...like its all surreal and she cannot believe it's happening to her...to them.

When Kartik looks at Naira, he can only see her faults, her blunders, but none of the joys she brought him. He doesn't look at her like she is fallible, he is essentially punishing her not being God. in his mind, it's over. Why then does he still look like he doesn't want the divorce to go through?

That looks like a schizophrenic idiot to me!

Years ago (again, when I accidentally switched on to SP that day), I happened to watch that sequence where Naira runs away from Udaipur and is not found till years later. I seriously thought Naitik would divorce Akshara, considering it was his princess who freaked out and ran away...because she thought her mother would turn in to the police.

But even then, which I believe, was a lower low than the fabricated trauma Kartik is claiming to be clinging to, Naitik treated Akshara with utmost respect. They had become distant, Naitik was angry, disappointed, very very hurt but even then...he had treated Akshara with care and respect. I mean, he had EVERY GODDAMN REASON to hate Akshara, and blame her goody-two-shoes attitude for landing Naira in deep trouble. For all they knew, Naira could've been dead or raped or kidnapped or something else.

As I watched Kartik pierce daggers in Naira's heart, that's what I was reminded of..

What Naitik and Akshara shared..was love. Naitik was brave and kind enough to not crush Akshara like Kartik tends to do...whenever something goes wrong that he feels Naira is responsible for.

Your spouse doesn't just deserve your love..they need your kindness and empathy too, when things don't work out..especially when things go haywire.

Is Kartik Goenka telling me losing that drug addict brother of his (who would've got snuffed out anyway) because of HIS own fault and ALL THE GOENKAS' COLLECTIVE NEGLECT, WAS WORSE THAN Naitik and Akshara losing Naira (not even knowing if she was alive or dead)?

I remember Naira and Kartik having one of their regular tiffs (many many episodes ago) and Kartik giving her attitude, not talking to her. When he eventually comes around (because things have righted themselves), and wants to cuddle up with Naira, she pushed him away..hurt and disappointed, saying, "Yeh kaisa pyaar hai KARTIK?

Right. That's my question to you Yeh kaisa pyaar hai tumhara Kartik?

But then, yeh toh pyar hai hi nai...this is not love.

And considering Kartik wont change in a million years even if these two get together, they will not last. It will not endure because it is not love...at least from Kartik's side.

It's best CVs stop making a mockery of marital relationships and actually stick to the "Nayi Soch theme or whatever fabricated theme they have on these days. Sending Naira back to that house/having her prove herself AGAIN/work her ass off to get these undeserving, ungrateful Goenkas to accept her (no they will never truly love her) will be telling all the women watching this that's what you're worth ladies. You're worth your husband's approval till you shove your self-respect and dignity aside, his abuse, his mistrust, his whimsical attitude and every other shit he can heap on you.

Naira does not deserve this Jerk Goenka. She deserves to be happy and live BY HERSELF for a while. And if you really want a man to be hovering around her, make sure he is thousand times better so Kartik's socks are blown off seeing how carefree and successful Naira is without his miserable company. Itni thandak toh hamare dilon ko de hi sakte ho CVs😉

As for Kartik, he needs someone to show him the mirror. He needs to get off his high horse and treat human beings like human beings...

Years ago, it was his dad and that creep Swarna he would lash out. Now it's Naira, does he realize he needs to fix himself first before blaming every Tom, dick and Harry? Jiski ankhein maili, use poori duniya maili nazar aati hai!

Insaan kehlaane ke layak ban jaye, phir pati bane!

P.S. Can someone just hack Swarna in broad daylight? Just watching her self-righteous nostrils flare today made my blood boil!

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi, welcome to the forum!!😊
I agree with everything you have written and most of the people in the forum feel the same way. We have been complaining and ranting about all the stuff you have mentioned.

At the end of the day, we excuse this stuff and make jokes about it because it is a TV show. We all know that if this was real life, this stuff wouldn't be acceptable at all. Despite knowing this, we all still watch this show because we have developed a fondness over time for the actors playing the characters. And that is what the CVS count on, for a show to do well these days.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think the writers think that if kartik could hate his dad for 20 years he could hate naira...(but they forget all of the shit he did for naira like bury his 20 year hatred for her safety stand by her every time +_+ always have the ability to look through her actions and see that she had good intentions)
i actually think the whole leap is bullshit
If u water it down
How is it possible the goenkas spies/media whatever never told kartik naira got hurt? and was in hosp
it took two years for manish to find out kartik has been drinking and painting udaipur red?
It took everyone two years to do something (dow i assume keerti probably has been doing hair brained bullshit for the past two years like continuously sending kartik clothes that matches naira so afar they would match each other and making it from the same material so in some way they would be connected)

As for his love i always been suspect of his love...I think under all the sugar coated bullshit kartik is super insecure and controlling
He wants to be nairas shield...His problems start when naira deals with something on her own
he cannot stand her not leaning on him
at some point naira needs to realize what he shows u and what he really is is two diff people
Look past the glitter gifts and sweetness his insecure, anger prone, unforgiving, harsh, controlling...
His the prince who became a frog
and i feel his "love for naira" is just his zid to have the one girl in the world who ddn fall on her face over for him
he just wants something he cant have
When/ if naira divorced him and even hinted at moving on +_+ he would die because he is a weakling



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mauli09

Hi, welcome to the forum!!😊

I agree with everything you have written and most of the people in the forum feel the same way. We have been complaining and ranting about all the stuff you have mentioned.

At the end of the day, we excuse this stuff and make jokes about it because it is a TV show. We all know that if this was real life, this stuff wouldn't be acceptable at all. Despite knowing this, we all still watch this show because we have developed a fondness over time for the actors playing the characters. And that is what the CVS count on, for a show to do well these days.


Hey Mauli,

Welcome to my thread. Oh yes, I get everything you say...it was the same with the other show I'd write daily reviews on.

And honestly, I want to make a joke of the drama throwing up in YRKKH now, but it just seem so grossly unfair...and nonsensical...sends out the wrong kind of message. What's more, I don't think it's helping TRPs either...I mean, I think TRPs would instead shoot up if Kartik was to be made jealous, or made to realize or beg Naira to forgive him ...something along those lines.

About the actors, they're doing an amazing job! But it feels so real...this hatred, this yelling, this chaos...makes me sad too because it makes Kartik's character fall so low in our eyes
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Posted: 7 years ago
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BTW good post loved reading it :)
esp the chipmunk part🤣
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnyaRSingh

I think the writers think that if kartik could hate his dad for 20 years he could hate naira...(but they forget all of the shit he did for naira like bury his 20 year hatred for her safety stand by her every time +_+ always have the ability to look through her actions and see that she had good intentions)

i actually think the whole leap is bullshit
If u water it down
How is it possible the goenkas spies/media whatever never told kartik naira got hurt? and was in hosp
it took two years for manish to find out kartik has been drinking and painting udaipur red?
It took everyone two years to do something (dow i assume keerti probably has been doing hair brained bullshit for the past two years like continuously sending kartik clothes that matches naira so afar they would match each other and making it from the same material so in some way they would be connected)

As for his love i always been suspect of his love...I think under all the sugar coated bullshit kartik is super insecure and controlling
He wants to be nairas shield...His problems start when naira deals with something on her own
he cannot stand her not leaning on him
at some point naira needs to realize what he shows u and what he really is is two diff people
Look past the glitter gifts and sweetness his insecure, anger prone, unforgiving, harsh, controlling...
His the prince who became a frog
and i feel his "love for naira" is just his zid to have the one girl in the world who ddn fall on her face over for him
he just wants something he cant have
When/ if naira divorced him and even hinted at moving on +_+ he would die because he is a weakling




Hey Anya, hi there!

First off, let me tell you I am a silent reader of your posts and love your snark and wit😆😆😆

It is the only saving grace after watching these dull, dreary episodes

Coming back to Kartik...I totally agree with your perspective. He does come across as super insecure, controlling, jealous and all those dark elements..

And knowing this about him kinda makes the glitter from his character dust off a bit.

I mean, love isn't just "kisi ko haasil karna" (in cliche Bolly terms😆), it's loving that person with all their positives and imperfections intact, being with that person through the highs and lows, not giving up at the drop of a hat like K.Goenka does!

Now if Naira were to move on, he would die because, again, "mere bina aage kaise badh gayi zindagi mein"

I mean..it all comes across as so damn narcissistic rather than loving..!

I know for sure, Naira wouldn't think like that...she'd keep her head held high and wish him the best..even it means sending a dagger through her heart every day, every moment

At this point, Kartik looks downright self-centered, arrogant and whatever other ugly name we can give him.


"(dow i assume keerti probably has been doing hair brained bullshit for the past two years like continuously sending kartik clothes that matches naira so afar they would match each other and making it from the same material so in some way they would be connected)"😆

Regarding that stunt Keerti pulled this time, woh kya tha bhai?? How do the CVs think of such stuff? Matching kapde dekhke divorce rukte, toh poori duniya mein would-be-divorcees ke rishtedaar shaadi ke jode na bhejte??!!

And now I'm thinking, yeh do saal Goenkas aur Singhanias channe bech/kha rahe the kya?! Ab akal aa rahi hai sabko? 2 saal ka leap kyun dikhaya...2 maheene ka bhi dikhate toh yehi haal ho raha hota..

Ufff...kaunse brand ka phoonk rahe hain CVs pata nai
Edited by gravity23 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnyaRSingh

BTW good post loved reading it :)

esp the chipmunk part🤣


😆😆

Thank you ;)
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Originally posted by: gravity23




Hey Anya, hi there!
--ola😆
First off, let me tell you I am a silent reader of your posts and love your snark and wit😆😆😆


It is the only saving grace after watching these dull, dreary episodes


--Thank u😆 i love fan girling with other kaira fans/ criticizing characters its superfun

Coming back to Kartik...I totally agree with your perspective. He does come across as super insecure, controlling, jealous and all those dark elements..

And knowing this about him kinda makes the glitter from his character dust off a bit.

I mean, love isn't just "kisi ko haasil karna" (in cliche Bolly terms😆), it's loving that person with all their positives and imperfections intact, being with that person through the highs and lows, not giving up at the drop of a hat like K.Goenka does!

Now if Naira were to move on, he would die because, again, "mere bina aage kaise badh gayi zindagi mein"

I mean..it all comes across as so damn narcissistic rather than loving..!

I know for sure, Naira wouldn't think like that...she'd keep her head held high and wish him the best..even it means sending a dagger through her heart every day, every moment

At this point, Kartik looks downright self-centered, arrogant and whatever other ugly name we can give him.


"(dow i assume keerti probably has been doing hair brained bullshit for the past two years like continuously sending kartik clothes that matches naira so afar they would match each other and making it from the same material so in some way they would be connected)"😆

Regarding that stunt Keerti pulled this time, woh kya tha bhai?? How do the CVs think of such stuff? Matching kapde dekhke divorce rukte, toh poori duniya mein would-be-divorcees ke rishtedaar shaadi ke jode na bhejte??!!

And now I'm thinking, yeh do saal Goenkas aur Singhanias channe bech/kha rahe the kya?! Ab akal aa rahi hai sabko? 2 saal ka leap kyun dikhaya...2 maheene ka bhi dikhate toh yehi haal ho raha hota..

Ufff...kaunse brand ka phoonk rahe hain CVs pata nai


--Kartik for me is epitome example of all the glitters is not gold. I am new kaira fan so all their scenes are fresh in my mind. coz i watched from beg recently
From the beginning i think he played a game pretending to be offended by anger and family orientated all to trap naira. And once he had her like an onion all his layers slowly started to show up...
His chinta would turn off when he was angry.
He used the singhanias to hurt the goenkas repeatedly throwing naitik in manish's face...going to work for the singhanias etc
I feel like naira was the perfect way for him to get revenge on his family + have full control over her...the one woman in the world that ddn fall flat on him like everyone else did.
So when he got his family back the singhanias ddn get his sweetness in huge quantities 😆
they got his anger time to time and distant smiles... while the goenkas (which kartik proves he is thorough one /opportunist) use naira to control him)
when they finally could control him on their own...they threw naira out...

Kartik never loved naira if he did he wouldnt be smiling so broadly at aashi being able to be normal... at least naira looks like shes in pain kartik just dumps all his anger on her...

god i hate him sometimes

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Manish pretty much summed up Kartik's personality during the confrontation scene. Even though he didn't mention how he treated Naira, but everything fit their current situation. Kartik is egotistical and self-absorbed. He's selfish, since everything is always about him and his needs. Kartik hasn't gotten time to introspect on whatever Manish said, or the cvs blantantly ignored that scene like they have done with so many others in the past, but I really hope after this whole marriage and divorce drama, he sits down on his own and reflects on his behaviour.
I honestly don't understand where Kartik comes from. What goes on in his head when he treats people like dirt, be it Naira or his father and why does no one sit and have a chat with him? I really hope sometime during or after this track Kartik is asked to join some anger management classes and Swarna is recommended therapy because she's clearly suffering from a mental illness.
I do think Kartik loves Naira, he always has, however, he hasn't gotten one proper breakdown scene in this entire track which makes it hard to believe. A scene where he just sits down and has a proper meltdown is much needed at this point.
Also, why can't Naira or her family just tell Kartik that Swarna knew about her accident and she chose to hid it from him? If he's not ready to listen, tell the other Goenkas like Manish or Dadi, or drop him a message. How hard is this? If they don't wish to do this, then stop hoping that miraculously they will get back together.

I have been rewatching past episodes, and both Kartik and Naira had such lively personalities. Their dialogues were cute, romantic, sometimes super cheesy, however, they weren't shy to express their feelings or joke around with each other unlike most telly couples. I just don't get how and if they are ever gonna go back to that place because from this point onwards, everything would seem fake and forced if Kartik isn't given a proper redemption track.
Additionally, if Kaira are shown as a mature and serious couple, it's gonna take away from their charm. It's so difficult to tell where the story is headed but the cvs will have to tread very carefully with the whole reunion thing.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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This time CVS have taken it too far . And they have goofed up , almost to the point of no return .

I could see hatred in kartiks eyes right since the beginning of the leap ..That's a blunder, why would he hate naira so much ? And immediately they are thinking "na kehdo divorce ke liye na kehdo" .. I believe we must not look up to these serials as they are far from reality ..They always mess up peoples brains and put wrong notions of adjustment, love, understanding and relationships in their heads.

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